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Calculator Community => Other Calculators => Topic started by: DJ Omnimaga on June 21, 2006, 04:29:00 am

Title: I give up
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 21, 2006, 04:29:00 am

I give up on calcs. If I am gonna waste hours and hours of effort and see it deleted every 30 mins or so why would I bother programming anymore? I'm not gonna backup every 15 mins or so (I normally backed up every day or two) in case xLIB wipe out my entire work. I am f***ing tired of this happening

Title: I give up
Post by: jons on June 21, 2006, 04:34:00 am

You don't need to give up. Just start programing your game straight on a emulator.

Title: I give up
Post by: Dragon__lance on June 21, 2006, 04:35:00 am

Please don't, every day i see more progress on metroid, and it's a huge inspiration. There's a lot of us here that believe in you, i understand that it's super stressing to get all ur progress deleated, but you gotta hang in there! Dont give up on calcs please....we almost lost you a while back, but not now.... :(

Title: I give up
Post by: Spellshaper on June 21, 2006, 04:41:00 am

... Why do I always have a premonition about what's going to happen when Kevin starts speaking in elaborate phrases? j/k

Hey Kevin, don't lose hope. That's what happens with Bm all of the time, too >_<
That's why I have side projects to work on: To get a better grip on xLIb and my BASIC before I get back to the REAL MEAT! ;)

My advice is: keep backupping, especially when you know that you are approaching a probably instable routine. Hell, I have 9 backups of Bm from March, 24th of 2006 :knight:

Title: I give up
Post by: g28401 on June 21, 2006, 05:09:00 am

Just don't give up. I can't really offer any technical help, but I can say just don't give up.

Title: I give up
Post by: bfr on June 21, 2006, 05:40:00 am

Kevin, I think I know how you feel. I quit programming on my TI-86 for a while because of this.

But, you're a great inspiration for everybody. You've made many great programs. You've proved what can be done with TI-BASIC. If you quit, I'd be really disappointed.

If you need a break, that's fine, but...well....all I can pretty much say is that I'd be disappointed if you quit (and I think a lot of other people will be too).

Title: I give up
Post by: Liazon on June 21, 2006, 06:42:00 am

I didn't know xlib could wipe stuff out. What's up with that?

I like the emulator suggestiong though.

Kevin! don't give up!!!

Title: I give up
Post by: Radical Pi on June 21, 2006, 07:32:00 am

Yeah Kevin, you are teh leetest Basic'r out there. Your initials fit perfectly in your dominance here: K.O. ;)

If you can't deal with the calc crashes, wear a seat belt. Seriously, backing up is better. (Especially if the driver under the infuence is in front of you.)

I'm sure you know how quitters never win, winners never quit? To a lot of us you're already a winner.

Whatever you decide, it's your decision. Just keep in mind we all are eagerly awaiting whatever you throw out next.

Title: I give up
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 21, 2006, 08:50:00 am

look like everyone wants me to finish the game... ok then...

well i just dunno how long it will take, when that happens its not easy to deal with at all, and when you know it might happen again you dont feel like coding anymore. I guess I'll try to finish that game but afterward I dunno if I'll code again for a while, i might wait until xlib has more error checks

Title: I give up
Post by: crzyrbl on June 21, 2006, 11:26:00 am

QuoteBegin-Liazon+Jun 21 2006, 12:42 PM-->

QUOTE (Liazon @ Jun 21 2006, 12:42 PM)

I didn't know xlib could wipe stuff out.

Title: I give up
Post by: jons on June 21, 2006, 05:04:00 pm

Yay metaphors. What fun.

Title: I give up
Post by: Liazon on June 22, 2006, 12:56:00 am

QuoteBegin-crzyrbl+Jun 21 2006, 05:26 PM-->

QUOTE (crzyrbl @ Jun 21 2006, 05:26 PM)

unfortunately yes. That's the trade-off for using asm's graphics. play with fire and prepare to be burned! repeatedly! its only natural to wait until it stops stinging. its alot to ask, but in the end you get fireworks everyone can enjoy :lol:

I wonder if tr1p1ea can one day fix that.

Does that mean someone playing the game can all of a sudden have their calculator crash and reset?

Title: I give up
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 22, 2006, 02:45:00 am

if someone hack my game it could. Actually its just a missing error checker, xlib has error checking but since there is so many funcitons and arguments there might be some missing one

something that would be cool is a version of xlib for developpers that has error check so its safe to code with it and another version of xlib with absolutely no error check, only to put with our games when finished so they run faster

Title: I give up
Post by: crzyrbl on June 22, 2006, 05:40:00 am

QuoteBegin-Liazon+Jun 22 2006, 06:56 AM-->

QUOTE (Liazon @ Jun 22 2006, 06:56 AM)

Does that mean someone playing the game can all of a sudden have their calculator crash and reset?

dont worry, its almost 100% crash proof once the game is done. very little testing is needed to make sure of this.

Title: I give up
Post by: Alex on June 22, 2006, 06:07:00 am

I'm sorry to hear this man, I know the feeling when you work hard on a game and then it gets wiped out, it happened to me before when I coded in 68k Basic :(

- Alex

Title: I give up
Post by: something1990 on June 23, 2006, 05:05:00 am

[removed] rude post. Please try to be nice when giving constructive criticism. Thanks

Title: I give up
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 23, 2006, 12:12:00 pm

If I am doing announcements like this every week or so its because of ppl being rude to me and it seems like people are rude to me on purpose (to make me post even more leaving posts)

and FYI Omnicalc backup feature is useless with xLIB as both apps cant be enabled together. when enabling xlib it disable Omnicalc or vice versa. Plus sending metroid to an emu takes near 10 minutes and it doesnt work pretty well. At least testing on calc after doing a backup (which i do at least twice a week) is much faster as I alerady have the game directly on calc

Title: I give up
Post by: Liazon on June 23, 2006, 01:18:00 pm

What about programming in tigraphlink and finding some way to send files to emu or calc?

Title: I give up
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 23, 2006, 02:01:00 pm

I dont like coding in tigraph link much

Title: I give up
Post by: Speler on June 23, 2006, 04:38:00 pm

What I would do is create a group with that program in it before I run the program. if there is an error and it clears the RAM, the group is in archive and the program will remain unaffected. But then again I may sound stupid since I never used xlib before.

Title: I give up
Post by: Zeromus on June 23, 2006, 05:28:00 pm

this is 60+k of info... that is like 4 group files

Title: I give up
Post by: Speler on June 23, 2006, 06:02:00 pm

Why not one group file? Is there a maximum ammount of data allowed in the group? You would delete it afterwards for the memory.

Title: I give up
Post by: lolje on June 24, 2006, 01:45:00 am

hmm did you have troubel with these 'giant equations' which are sometimes caused by xLib???
I personally didn't have many problems with crashes because I always archive all the programs I don't need and when I did a big step I pack it into a group.
Maaaybe this could help you:
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/356/35686.html

When you don't code or code less it doesn't effect that you're an idiot in (e.g.) my point of view...
Maybe you won't program for a while but as long as you have (a bit)contact to the community I wont put any blame on you.
Take it easy :)

EDIT: Why is this topic not in 'Miscellanous stuff' ???

Title: I give up
Post by: Zeromus on June 24, 2006, 04:08:00 am

QuoteBegin-Super Speler+Jun 24 2006, 12:02 AM-->

QUOTE (Super Speler @ Jun 24 2006, 12:02 AM)

Why not one group file? Is there a maximum ammount of data allowed in the group? You would delete it afterwards for the memory.

hehe, there is only 24k of RAM, and you need a tiny bit to group things (for expanding vats) that's why my Metroid never fit into 1 group because if I recall, it was around 25-30k

Title: I give up
Post by: Speler on June 24, 2006, 04:23:00 am

Oh, could he run it on MOS in archive, or would that be worse since MOS doesn't know what to do with the error (or maybe xLib isn't even compatable with MOS)

Title: I give up
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 24, 2006, 10:19:00 am

I wish there was a program that grouped all programs on the calc even the archived ones, and when ungrouped the archived programs would go back to archive and the ram prgms to ram, that way we wouldnt need to do lot of archiving/unarchiving to group over 80 KB of programs. I got a crash while grouping once

Title: I give up
Post by: BCTurk on June 25, 2006, 01:07:00 am

And to answer Super_Speler, no, MOS isn't combatible with xLib.

Title: I give up
Post by: Zeromus on June 25, 2006, 07:00:00 am

QuoteBegin-Super Speler+Jun 24 2006, 10:23 AM-->

QUOTE (Super Speler @ Jun 24 2006, 10:23 AM)

Oh, could he run it on MOS in archive, or would that be worse since MOS doesn't know what to do with the error (or maybe xLib isn't even compatable with MOS)

umm... xLIB + MOS = no more metroid.... and ontop of that, it still wouldn't help because MOS unarchived things to run them

Title: I give up
Post by: Demon on July 10, 2006, 08:19:00 am

QuoteBegin-xlibman+Jun 21 2006, 10:29 AM-->

QUOTE (xlibman @ Jun 21 2006, 10:29 AM)

That's why I back up like no tomorrow.

All my programs get copied to a group then moved to another calculator then to my user /and/ backup partitions on my PC then to my emulators, and soon, when I get it redone, to my website.

I should /never/ lose anything, but I like the be a risk-taker (how many times has that gotten me into trouble, I can't even count!) and something bad happens, and before you know, "Oh, [...], I gotta start over! :(