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Calculator Community => Other Calculators => Topic started by: annoyingcalc on May 09, 2011, 10:19:01 pm

Title: I got a ti-92
Post by: annoyingcalc on May 09, 2011, 10:19:01 pm
SO I got a ti-92 on ebay :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: I can't belive it :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh: I will start programming on the 92 when it gets to my house and when more projects are in development for it
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: turiqwalrus on May 09, 2011, 10:31:58 pm
congrats :thumbsup:
for advice on using it, I would ask jimbauwens(he's the only 92 user I know) or DJ(maybe. I'm not sure :P)
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 09, 2011, 11:46:32 pm
Congrats! Unfortunately I cannot help, though, as I never programmed on it. Also I can't successfully run any ASM program on ticalc.org so I can't help on that either. Also make sure to use TI-BASIC, because very few people own a TI-92 anymore, so barely anyone will be able to try your ASM programs.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Jim Bauwens on May 10, 2011, 03:49:06 am
I have a little question: Is it a TI-92, Ti-92 with Plus module, or a Ti-92 Plus?
If its just the Ti-92, then you are actually in bad luck, because most of the 68k programs don't run on it. It also doesn't have flash rom.
Anyway, if you have any question about basic programming, I'll be glad to help you :)

Have fun with it!
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on May 10, 2011, 05:04:26 am
If it is just a ti 92, you might be able to buy a plus-module.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 10, 2011, 11:29:27 am
Well, the BASIC programming on it is still the same regardless isn't it?
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on May 10, 2011, 11:30:49 am
Well, the BASIC programming on it is still the same regardless isn't it?
I think it's slighty limited.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Jim Bauwens on May 10, 2011, 12:26:00 pm
There are quite s
Well, the BASIC programming on it is still the same regardless isn't it?
The language syntax is the same, but there are quite some differences, some of which are real annoying.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 10, 2011, 03:39:05 pm
Ah, I see. I figured it would be similar in comparison to Ti 82 BASIC compared to TI 83+ BASIC. Essentially the 82 is missing some variables and commands, but otherwise they are the same, and code for one can run on the other.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 10, 2011, 04:33:34 pm
Is the 92 BASIC similar to 92+ BASIC, though? I can't imagine how it would be incredibly different, when on the 83 the language is almost the same as on the 83+.

I know there was very little RAM, though.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Jim Bauwens on May 10, 2011, 04:46:34 pm
Its the same syntax, there are just some things that don't work on the Ti-92.
For example, if I remember correctly, "a+3->a" returns "Error: Circular expression".

To run most basic 89/92+ programs you will have to patch them.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 10, 2011, 04:47:33 pm
Ah ok, but anything on the 92 will be backwards compatible with the 92+, right? I think that is the most important thing here.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Jim Bauwens on May 10, 2011, 05:04:48 pm
Yes, basic programs should work with no problem on the Plus version.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 10, 2011, 05:28:32 pm
Ok good to hear. It would kinda suck if TI released a new calc with a similar model name and it did not ran anything from the previous one.


By the way you can upgrade your 92 with a Plus module, but they're very hard to find.

http://datamath.org/Graphing/TI-92_Expansion.htm
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 11, 2011, 01:12:33 am
Its the same syntax, there are just some things that don't work on the Ti-92.
For example, if I remember correctly, "a+3->a" returns "Error: Circular expression".

To run most basic 89/92+ programs you will have to patch them.
Ah ok, but anything on the 92 will be backwards compatible with the 92+, right? I think that is the most important thing here.
Yes, basic programs should work with no problem on the Plus version.

This was what I was wondering. That's basically how it is between the TI 82 and the TI-83 + as well. =)
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on May 11, 2011, 04:36:36 am
Ok good to hear. It would kinda suck if TI released a new calc with a similar model name and it did not ran anything from the previous one.


By the way you can upgrade your 92 with a Plus module, but they're very hard to find.

http://datamath.org/Graphing/TI-92_Expansion.htm
Yeah, I know. We have one of those, but I don't know if yo can still get those.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 11, 2011, 09:15:56 am
Well, you can, just not new. :) You'd have to check ebay or something to see if someone was selling a used one.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 12, 2011, 10:22:24 pm
I heard that they were a few hundreds of dollars once, due to their rarity, not sure if it's true, though. Personally I would rather pay a few extra bucks for an actual 92+ or even a v200 :P
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Jim Bauwens on May 13, 2011, 12:45:45 am
Indeed, you can't compare the display quality!
And the speed is also higher (notable when playing Super Mario 68l :p)
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 13, 2011, 12:57:11 am
Is the 92+ a blue LCD? I know the 92 was, plus mine got missing rows of pixels x.x. Isn't SM68K only for the Flash models, though?
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on May 13, 2011, 05:35:36 am
No, it's a nice black one.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 13, 2011, 08:39:30 am
Aww, too bad they changed it for the 92+ models. I always thought the blue pixels were cool. They reminded me of the old gameboy (even thought its pixels were green instead of blue). The old TI-82s, and the TI-85s have blue pixels as well.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Jim Bauwens on May 13, 2011, 08:54:59 am
Is the 92+ a blue LCD? I know the 92 was, plus mine got missing rows of pixels x.x. Isn't SM68K only for the Flash models, though?
Yeah, that is true, I forgot to mention I was using a plus module :/

Edit:
@ Art_of_camelot, the visibility of the black screens is THOUSAND times better than the blue one. You can't compare it, its so much better.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 13, 2011, 09:32:03 am
Ah, the old blue ones were cheaply made then? Or do you just mean simply because the blue was less visible?
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Jim Bauwens on May 13, 2011, 09:34:08 am
Well, its more cheap, and it less visible. The 'black' ones are more green.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 13, 2011, 09:35:31 am
Ahh, ok. =) Also: 1500th POST! ;D
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 25, 2011, 01:26:41 am
Aww, too bad they changed it for the 92+ models. I always thought the blue pixels were cool. They reminded me of the old gameboy (even thought its pixels were green instead of blue). The old TI-82s, and the TI-85s have blue pixels as well.
I didn't like them too much, except the 85, because the contrast was too low so it was hard to read.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 25, 2011, 01:43:43 am
I personally love the way the old TI-82s looked. I don't have much experience with the TI-85, and none with the TI-92. I do remember seeing a game in "bluescale" on the TI-85 though. That was pretty sweet! ;D
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 25, 2011, 04:20:01 am
Yeah true. It was nice. I just find the TI-82 LCD to be too hard to read compared to other calcs. The screen is much darker and the pixels lighter. It's nowhere as bad as the TI-80 or 81, though. (The 80 was the worst)
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Spyro543 on May 25, 2011, 06:43:11 am
Hey I'm thinking about getting a TI-92+!
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on May 25, 2011, 01:10:57 pm
Hey I'm thinking about getting a TI-92+!
Congratulations. Nice choice. :)
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: yunhua98 on May 25, 2011, 02:28:08 pm
or Voyage 200

or 400, for that matter.  XD

also, what was TI's goal with the TI-80?  It was worse than the 81, IMO
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 26, 2011, 02:38:13 am
Yeah v200 would be nice too since it got more archive, but it's more expensive I think. As for the 80 it was made for poorer families who couldn't afford the expensive 82 and 83. However it was replaced with the 73 in USA and here the 83+ got slightly cheaper than it was (although still overpriced).
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 26, 2011, 09:11:51 am
V200 would be cool, but the 92+ should be cheaper. =)
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on May 26, 2011, 10:30:04 am
The 92+ is still quite a powerfull machine.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Spyro543 on May 27, 2011, 08:24:28 pm
Can I use the 3-D graphing functions in Basic?
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on May 28, 2011, 11:34:33 am
Can I use the 3-D graphing functions in Basic?
Are you talking about the ti 92+?
I believe you can: http://epsstore.ti.com/OA_HTML/csksxvm.jsp?nSetId=91478
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Spyro543 on May 28, 2011, 11:41:53 am
 :crazy: Does this mean we can make 3D games on the 92+? :crazy:
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: annoyingcalc on May 28, 2011, 11:50:19 am
I dont know but I believe it is possible
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Jim Bauwens on May 28, 2011, 11:52:53 am
Basic would be to slow, but C is quite fine.
Just look on Ticalc.org, you will see a couple of 3d games.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on May 28, 2011, 01:01:25 pm
Basic would be to slow, but C is quite fine.
Just look on Ticalc.org, you will see a couple of 3d games.
For example: Doom 89(It isn't the originial doom, but it's good). Making 3d games is in ti-basic is a bad idea IMO. But as my brother said C is quite fine.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Spyro543 on May 28, 2011, 07:54:43 pm
So 3D games in BAsic is possible, but the quality isn't good? Ok, but if I get a 92+ I'll have to experiment around with the awesome-sounding Basic.
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on May 29, 2011, 06:59:57 am
So 3D games in BAsic is possible, but the quality isn't good? Ok, but if I get a 92+ I'll have to experiment around with the awesome-sounding Basic.
No, 3d games probably wouldn't really work in TI-basic.(Ti-basic is too slow for that)
Title: Re: I got a ti-92
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 29, 2011, 10:48:00 am
Yea, 3d in BASIC would be really slow.