Omnimaga
Calculator Community => Other Calculators => Topic started by: DJ Omnimaga on September 24, 2008, 06:09:34 pm
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When I send files with TI-Connect while listening to music on my computer in 1/3 of the times sound suddently stops working and I have to reboot to get sound again
So, yeah. :P
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really? I know TI-Connect slows down your computer quite a bit, but it never makes the sounds stop working. That's kinda odd..
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It also do something involving wiping a calculator flash page or overwriting it when you send files to your calc, but I don't have much details about this.
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whoah..I have really never heard of that! That's kind of weird again. Where did you hear this?
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Kevin always has something weird when it comes to computers XD, jking
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it's partially true tho O.O
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iirc, what it was doing was wiping a blank FLASH page for USB transfers, when it didn't even need this flash page. Also, sound disappearing? Only with Ti-Connect!
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Yeah, and I'm stuck with it because I have a Direct Link Cable it sucks eggs :-\
If only ti didn't screw everything up, life would be perfect ;D
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Yes I HATE TI connect. Ill explain later, but i must sleep now. 12 hr workdays suck.
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wow, i've never had any of that stuff happen to me...
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Ti connect always has problems. From not recognizing calcs to randomly crashing and Also not allowing you to send files that it deems as "bad" (Even though there is nothing wrong with them). I can't even send most of the old programs written for the ti86 to my calc with ti connect because it flags them as bad... go figure. I really love the old graphlink software. Only problem it had was not identifing a calc when it was plugged in, and this could be fixed after a reboot or just disconnecting and reconneting the cable a couple of times. I still don't know why the ditched the graphlink software for ti connect...
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oh, i think i got the old graph link =)
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I have both the old graphlink hardware and software, plus the silver link and TIconnect. I actually have like 5 of the old black cables... :P
TI-Connect works for me in 98% of the stuff I need to send and receive to/from my calcs. That other 2% consists of using the 82 and 86, which neither works well with TI-Connect. Actually the 82 does not work at all.
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Now that you say it, i actually don't know what i have... Alls i know is that i never get crashes or weird things happening
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Well I Like tilp2 for nix but on windows it fails and since my new comp is running 64Bit vista I can't use either of them. But yeah ti-connect is working hard at killing your flash pages I think BrandonW said it erased your swap sector a few times for each transfer for no apparent reason. Hence Tilp2 is faster in some cases. But yeah to tell the truth is the both suck.
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Thanks for clarifying TheStorm. I don't have problems with TiLP on Windows altough it's a lil annoying to use sometimes
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@Tifreak, I have the gray parallel graphlink and the black serial one. However, It seems neither of them works anymore =( (the black one I got from a friend recently).
As for TILP, I haven't had any luck getting it to work either. I have tired TILP several times, and it installs and I can open it, but it won't let me send files to the calc.
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I think that people criticize TI-Connect way too much. I like it much better than the other linking programs, and I have almost never had any problems with it. Btw, if you look at the stuff that brandonw sends to his calc, then you wouldn't be surprised that it messes up sometimes ;D
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Well I personally still use it sometimes for TI-89t transfer, but it mysteriously stopped working for almost every TI-83+ serial link transfer. Actually, since about 6 months I can get screen captures fine, but when trying any other form of transfer it tries to detect my 83+ and it never finds it, so now I use TILP for 83+ transfer (altough I find it annoying to use) and TI-Connect for 89 transfer
I'm on my 9th titanium so far because of TI-Connect breaking calcs though. (j/k)
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Yes TI-connect is the best in terms of ease of use but really If someone were to rewrite TILP so it didn't fail so much that would be the best solution. All the linking routines are there they would just need to rewrite the GUI so it its more user Friendly.
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(http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/495/usetilpbf9.png)
Found this in Bfr's sig on UTI after searching for it for a month at least
EDIT: Oh btw TI-82 and TI-85 Graph Link softwares works extremly well on Windows XP compared to the 83+ version. I got pretty fast transfer too
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o.O;
Lol
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I knew TI connect was EEEvil! All my fears and suspicions have been verified! Muahaha ! >|:O
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TI-Connect gets a lot of bad rap when it doesn't really deserve it. I've never had a problem with it, personally.
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TI-Connect gets a lot of bad rap when it doesn't really deserve it. I've never had a problem with it, personally.
Yeah, that is a big 10-4 for me too..Except back in the day with Windows ME..
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My biggest gripe was that by version 1.5 they dropped compatibility with 8xg files sent originally from TI-Graph Link and when sent on the calc the first program is almost always corrupted. This can cause a lot of problems when it comes to sending old BASIC games to your calc using it. For example in the Reign Of Legends 3 if you run the launcher you get ERR:UNDEFINED and if you try to delete the program the calculator crashes and you get a RAM Cleared messages. Most BASIC games that were originally sent from TI-Graph Link software must be ungrouped on the computer first, then all individual files sent to the calc separately. This was a big problem with games using hacked picture variables like Zelda Dark Link Quest or Reuben 2. The entire install procedure had to be redone to allow the game to be sent to the calc using TI-Connect and the readme rewritten.
When I had version 1.2 and 1.3 I never got any problems with TI-Graph Link 8xg files.
Besides that I only got two problems. Last winter it stopped being able to detect my TI-83+ mysteriously, even if I changed no settings/cables at all. Now I can use TI-Connect fine with all my calcs except the 83+ models, from which I am only able to get screen captures now, else it says Device Not Found and since the 83+ version of TI-Graph Link crashes all the time on my XP install (unlike TI-GL 82, 85, 86 and 92) I have to use TiLP for 83+ transfer now. I guess it's a trojan/virus or something...
Other problem I got is that I can't listen to music during file transfer with TI-Connect, because everytime I send files using it if I am listening to music at the same time it kills my computer sound and to get sound again I have to reboot. I am unsure why it interacts like this with my soundcard/sound drivers/whatever...
Other than these issues it does the job fine. I prefer TI-Connect way to transfer files. I just have to right click on files and send to TI device
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I personally had relatively few problems with TI-Connect. Since my machine runs Vista, I don't really have any room to complain :)
I liked the fact that TI-Connect will wait for some long time to send an application while the TI-83 Plus needs to perform some "housekeeping" functions prior to receiving the FlashAPP. Although adjustable (in some fashion I haven't bothered with yet), TiLP will fail if it has to wait too long to send an application. Good thing about TiLP, though, is that it attempts to send the application upon double-clicking it. A good thing for me, I guess.
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I'm sure better methods exist, but TI-Connect wasn't so bad I'd gor for TiLP. im too used to it.
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Suddently, TI-Connect decided to recognise my TI-83+ regular again! Idk how it got fixed though, but I got it to work again after trying to make it detect my regular TI-83
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Suddently, TI-Connect decided to recognise my TI-83+ regular again! Idk how it got fixed though, but I got it to work again after trying to make it detect my regular TI-83
Well, a year ago I had installed the TI-Connect version previous to this newest one (it had the program editor). And when I had uninstalled it, I couldn't install any version of TI-Connect! I had deleted everything from my pc that had TI (including the registry files)..Had to reformat, that was my worst experience..
But last week it wouldn't recognize my 83+SE, then now it is...Weird, I still love it though!
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Using Tilp II
I adapted very well. But TI-Connect is easier to use and manage files (much nicer icons) but tilp is much faster.
I have still TI-connect in other computer to use sometimes. :P
No doubt both the programs have their moods... I wonder if someone pulled tilp to overkill TI-Connect. ;D
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Really the issue is TILP has a better back end to it and the actual linking routines are well written but the front end or UI is poorly written and could use a lot of improvement. The opposite is true for TI-Connect, its UI is pretty but what it does behind the scenes will kill your calc.
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I does not knows what you guys are talking about (* I do not know what you guys are talking about..)
TI-Connect always works for me, the only problem I had was when I didn't read instructions and I plugged the calculator into the computer without having the disk installed first... and it got all messed 0x5
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The way ti-cennect does its transfers will where out your flashchip faster than the method tilp uses, TILP also supports more types of home made cables like the parallel link which will never be supported in TI-Connect. Plus TILP is cross platform so you can use it on LINUX based systems as well as Windows.
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Isn't TiLP much faster at transfering too? Again, I only ever tried with the old black serial TI-Graph Link cable, though, that came with my TI-83+SE in early 2002. In TI_Connect sometimes transfer would take about 10 seconds to even start at all, not to mention it caused the PC to hang completly until transfer actually began. When transfer began, it went at a quite good speed, tho. However with TiLP everything seemed twice faster and no loading time before transfering. TI-Graph Link gotta be the slowest of all, though, but back when I got my TI-83+ Silver Edition, TI-Connect and TiLP didn't even exist at all.
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I couldnt use TiLP, I tried but I didn't know how to do it right, and TI-Connect works fine for me and has more features. I couldn't figure out how to even get a file!! I also couldn't get a group to send. I guess TI-Connect works better for newer version calculators, because it never acted up unless I sent Joltima, and we all got together and solved that in last weeks puzzle challenge.
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I have the same impression tilp is faster...
But maybe the non-sense time starting of ti-connect makes this impression subjective...
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TiLP lack of user friendliness is indeed an issue. On top of that when I downloaded it the readme was out of date and misleading. It seemed they updated the software but left the readme for TiLP 1 or something. Took me a long while to figure out how to even send files
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so wait.. using Ti-connect can wear out your FlashChip? *Whats a Flash Chip? and whats it used for XD?
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the flash chip is your flash memory, so the archive
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I see. but it wouldn't be possible to run purely on ram would it? cause im guessing the TI-OS in archive..
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I think the flash memory can be overwritten 200000 times or so
after about 20 years, a calc used to program extensively would prbly stop working or something, but I'm unsure how. I do know Casio AFX calcs lasts a few years because they also use flash memory. I am unsure how stuff is stored in it, though
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okay. good. Cause i was thinking if i kept porting stuff into my Ti-84 i would have to get a replacement soon.. but in 20 years lol.. id prolly have to get another one anyways.(cause the Ti-84 would b so outdated)
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To change data in ROM (the flash archive on the TI calculators), it first must be cleared, which is accomplished by applying a large voltage to a part of the chip to set/reset some connectors/links. Then, another high voltage is applied to the necessary "links" to set them. You can probably figure out how it can get worn out. But that takes a ton of writes, and you probably won't get to the limit where damage occurs during the lifetime of your calculator.
I see. but it wouldn't be possible to run purely on ram would it? cause im guessing the TI-OS in archive..
The ROM page that the TI-OS is on rarely gets modified, so you shouldn't need to worry about the OS getting 'worn out'.