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Calculator Community => Other Calculators => Topic started by: hellninjas on May 14, 2012, 05:25:57 pm

Title: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: hellninjas on May 14, 2012, 05:25:57 pm
I just got my new 84+SE in the mail!! WOOT!
(It was weirdly placed in my mailbox...)
The video MAY still being processed...
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 14, 2012, 05:56:41 pm
What OS does it have?
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: hellninjas on May 14, 2012, 05:59:01 pm
2.55MP ?
And youtube froze on me so video wont be up for a while...
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 14, 2012, 06:00:27 pm
You know you can still find 2.43 in the Singapore version of TI's website?
Also, what happened to your old calc?
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: hellninjas on May 14, 2012, 06:02:04 pm
You know you can still find 2.43 in the Singapore version of TI's website?
Also, what happened to your old calc?
No I didn't and my old one got stolen ;.;
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 14, 2012, 06:02:29 pm
What was your old calculator?
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: hellninjas on May 14, 2012, 06:02:51 pm
A REALLY old 83+SE.
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 14, 2012, 06:04:00 pm
If I had to pick between the 83+SE and the 84+SE, given the necessary link cables, then I would pick the 83+SE.
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 14, 2012, 06:07:46 pm
What is the video by the way? Is it just a video of your calc or some games running? Also glad you got a new calc. Please be careful with this one, though: Don't leave it on your school desktop unnatended while asking questions to the teacher. I always put my calc in my pockets when possible.
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: BalancedFury on May 14, 2012, 07:21:50 pm
Lol I do that too XD
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 15, 2012, 03:59:28 am
Yes, you are lucky that you were able to get a replacement. I don't know if most of our members parents would have bought them a replacement. Graphing calculators aren't exactly the cheapest thing to replace, although ebay does have decently priced used ones sometimes. Make sure to keep up with this one better! =)
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: hellninjas on May 15, 2012, 07:34:10 am
What is the video by the way? Is it just a video of your calc or some games running? Also glad you got a new calc. Please be careful with this one, though: Don't leave it on your school desktop unnatended while asking questions to the teacher. I always put my calc in my pockets when possible.
It's what I normally do, but I did get my 83+SE back :D
Kinda weird guy that gave it back to me though o.o...
And the video was supposed to be me opening the package containing the 84+SE and then accidentally cutting my finger with the knife, as I always seem to do when opening closed things xD.
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 15, 2012, 07:49:56 am
Wait, your 83+SE was stolen then returned? O.O Wow, you are quite lucky. Not only did you get a replacement, but you now have your original calc back as well.
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: Adriweb on May 15, 2012, 08:18:30 am
If I had to pick between the 83+SE and the 84+SE, given the necessary link cables, then I would pick the 83+SE.

o_O
There must be some reason(s) I don't know about ....
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 15, 2012, 03:37:32 pm
The TI-83+SE has no crappy MP that TI is goading their users to have, due to the greater amount of TI-83+BE users.
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: turiqwalrus on May 15, 2012, 03:53:07 pm
The TI-83+SE has no crappy MP that TI is goading their users to have, due to the greater amount of TI-83+BE users.
If you don't like it, downgrade to 2.43
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 15, 2012, 03:53:53 pm
I already did, but TI wants us to use 2.55 MP. Also, I feel much happier using 2.43. Also, the TI-83+SE looks a lot better than the TI-84+SE.
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: piexil on May 22, 2012, 06:38:42 am
Other than crappy bugs (Enter a fraction in math print and multiply it by another fraction, it glitches the whole screen and needs a ram reset to fix)
Why is math print bad?
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: Jim Bauwens on May 22, 2012, 06:56:47 am
(I'm no z80 user, so the information below might be incorrect)

I think it's because it slows the device extremely much down, and introduces bugs causing the device to be less stable.
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 22, 2012, 08:05:13 am
It causes some strange errors with some ASM programs (mostly display issues, I think) and causes slowdowns sometimes. Some of the slowdowns were related to using Outuput with BASIC. At least one command that had unintended secondary effects was changed. There was one BASIC command used with Text sprites which programmers used to reset one of the system flags. After the update it no longer affected the flag.  I think there was a thread somewhere around here summing things up, but basically they did a quick hack job to implement the features IIRC and the results were that it was buggy.
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: Sorunome on May 22, 2012, 12:58:11 pm
Wha, I want a 84+SE :(
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 22, 2012, 01:03:06 pm
A TI-83+SE is better. What do you have, though?
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: Sorunome on May 22, 2012, 01:05:13 pm
Only a ti 84+, and why would be a 83+se better than a 84+se ?
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 22, 2012, 01:14:14 pm
The TI-83+SE has no MathPrint OS because of its slower cousin TI-83+BE, so although you could just use 2.43, TI is never going to release MP for the 83+. Not to mention that the 83+SE looks better than the 84+SE.

Also, you use zStart? Have you experienced any crashes while using it?
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: Sorunome on May 22, 2012, 01:24:38 pm
Yeah, i use zstart, but it doesn't crash to me.
And you could just downgrade the OS, and who cares how the calc looks like?
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: Hayleia on May 22, 2012, 01:29:36 pm
Yeah, you can just avoid MathPrint by putting OS 2.43 on a 84+SE, where is the problem ? ???
Also, the 84+SE has interchangeable faceplates ;)
(but they are sold separately)
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 22, 2012, 01:32:58 pm
There is really little difference between the two. The 83+SE has a clear casing. The 84+SE has a mini USB port and a real time clock. That's really about it.
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: Sorunome on May 22, 2012, 01:36:08 pm
Isn't the prozessor and ram of the 84+SE larger than of the 83+SE?
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 22, 2012, 01:40:48 pm
Nope, both 15 mhz. Both 1.5MB flash archive.
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: Sorunome on May 22, 2012, 01:58:58 pm
I meant RAM, not flash
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: JosJuice on May 22, 2012, 02:05:34 pm
I meant RAM, not flash
All 83+SEs have 128 kB RAM. Old 84+(SE)s have 128 while newer ones only have 48. However, the amount of user memory is 24 kB on all of them.
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: Sorunome on May 22, 2012, 02:26:35 pm
why did they take out a ram page? The 84+SE should have more RAM IMO than the 83+SE...
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: parserp on May 22, 2012, 04:44:00 pm
Is it possible to mess with stuff and get some of the OS RAM into the user RAM?
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: piexil on May 23, 2012, 11:34:12 pm
Is it possible to mess with stuff and get some of the OS RAM into the user RAM?

I don't see why none of the Custom oses for the 84+(SE) have done this, at least not that I know of.
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: jsj795 on May 24, 2012, 12:21:30 am
why did they take out a ram page? The 84+SE should have more RAM IMO than the 83+SE...

Because I think TI wanted to cut down the price of production even more while keeping the same sales price, and the fact that since the user RAM is only 24kb anyways they thought the extra RAM was unnecessary.
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: piexil on May 24, 2012, 08:16:57 am
why did they take out a ram page? The 84+SE should have more RAM IMO than the 83+SE...

Because I think TI wanted to cut down the price of production even more while keeping the same sales price, and the fact that since the user RAM is only 24kb anyways they thought the extra RAM was unnecessary.
The thing is,
Why would they need to cut down prices they buy it for?
They already only pay $5 for the hardware and turn a 9001% profit on it. (Exaggeration, of course.)
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: JosJuice on May 24, 2012, 10:40:20 am
Is it possible to mess with stuff and get some of the OS RAM into the user RAM?

I don't see why none of the Custom oses for the 84+(SE) have done this, at least not that I know of.
I think most of them do that, actually. They're free to use RAM for whatever purpose they want to (except for executing code, which is normally forbidden on some pages).
Title: Re: My new 84+SE!!!
Post by: blue_bear_94 on May 24, 2012, 03:42:54 pm
I don't know why TI decreased the amount of user RAM from the 83 to the 83+ and made it the same on the 84+...