Post by: Dragon__lance on July 03, 2006, 08:45:00 am
Post by: Spellshaper on July 03, 2006, 09:34:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 03, 2006, 10:48:00 am
j/k
It's fine as it is, suggestion i would have is to have two version of xlib, one for programmers, and one for gamers. The programmer version would have more error checks so it wont crash during developpement, and the gamer version would have no error checks at all, except of course stuff like sprite clipping and such things, so it would run a bit faster
Post by: tifreak on July 03, 2006, 04:06:00 pm
Post by: crzyrbl on July 03, 2006, 08:49:00 pm
Post by: kalan_vod on July 03, 2006, 08:57:00 pm
| QUOTE (crzyrbl @ Jul 4 2006, 02:49 AM) |
| I liked the idea of a custom map file type. I dont like how much space matrices take up. |
But with the other methods of data storage it is the easiest and most efficient. As you could use strings, but it will be more complicated. Patrick could implement such a string based map storage where it uses characters along with numeric values, as it would be more difficult to make maps with just numeric values in strings (you would have to use a define key to show if you wish to make the tile number greater than 10, as -9 would be one digit but 10 would not work with out some type of identifier to show it is a two digit value). The thing with that is that you would need to specify decimals for values, but it is possible.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 04, 2006, 01:48:00 am
Post by: Dragon__lance on July 04, 2006, 05:28:00 am
Post by: necro on July 04, 2006, 04:50:00 pm
Post by: kalan_vod on July 04, 2006, 05:54:00 pm
| QUOTE (necro @ Jul 4 2006, 10:50 PM) |
| I think the current way works fine |
Same here, but I think at most we should get some sort of linking routine or data compression.
Post by: Dragon__lance on July 05, 2006, 02:40:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 06, 2006, 02:07:00 pm
Post by: crzyrbl on July 06, 2006, 07:33:00 pm
Post by: kalan_vod on July 07, 2006, 09:24:00 am
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Post by: CureDesu on July 09, 2006, 01:09:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 09, 2006, 02:03:00 pm
welcome here btw I think I saw you on IRC a few times, I see you like metroid (by your avatar) ^^
Post by: tenniskid493 on July 09, 2006, 02:05:00 pm
search ticalc.org for map editor and you'll prob. get a ton of programs that will work
Post by: CureDesu on July 09, 2006, 02:10:00 pm
*And yes, I love metroid.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 09, 2006, 03:17:00 pm
Post by: Demon on July 10, 2006, 07:51:00 am
Vertical flipping.
36-degree rotation (you would be able to place a sprite on the screen rotated by some number of degrees.
Ability to open MirageOS and ION program from BASIC progs.
The ability to be able to read and write to parts of a program (this would be really nice, especially if you want to put detection of levels, etc in your games, or something, or save info in a program... etc.)
Access to those special characters (like the "icons" used in the TIOS) that we can't type in.
Ability to read and write to AppVars.
A circle library that can make all the kinds of circles that the rectangle library ( real(12,x) ) can do (e.g., outline, filled, inverted). It would be way faster than what the TIOS does, even with the the "fast circles" flag set (Why'd TI not enable that by default?).
Command to make the calc standby.
Something like Omnicalc's PLAY command ( real(31,"
Even better, with multi-channel sound (like CalcMod) - would be really cool to make stereo music with more than one channel...
A mouse command. It would put a mouse on the screen and return the coordinates when "clicked".
Way more convinienct than a BASIC mouse (I know from trying :P
).Dialogbox (with buttons) / Menu (that you can put as many items in as your memory can take) / Alert libraries.
Menu:
"Title:Item A:Item B:Etc": real(n[,X,Y] (X and Y would be where you want it to display at)
Dialog:
"Title:Button A:Button B:Button C": real(n
Alert:
"[Title:]Alert Text": real(n
Kind of like the way mine work but would be way faster since you could parse faster in ASM than in BASIC...
*pyro_xp2k : [thinks of more ideas...]
Oh, and plug-in support so if somone wants to add a feature to XLIB, then they can do it themselves.
That's all the ideas I can think of so far...
EDIT: And linking - caple of letting you transer other programs, pics, and whatever else from calc to calc from a program so you dont' have to use the link menu (since this don't work: GetCalc(prgmTEST) )
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 10, 2006, 12:46:00 pm
Post by: Demon on July 17, 2006, 08:17:00 am
- Allow you to put a sprite in a matrix and vise versa and be able to draw what's in the marix on the screen (ie:
[[10000001]
[01000010]
[00100100]
[00011000]
[00011000]
[00100100]
[01000010]
[10000000]] can be put on on the screen without having to use any for loops. Or an image on the screen can be converted back to binary data without any for loops.
- xLib plug-ins. This way, you can keep the essential features of xLib, and put extra xLib features in plug-ins that people can install (to their RAM or Archive). That way if more featues are needed (like all these suggestions I'm giving) you can just put them in a plug-in so that xLib stays small and all you have to do is add the plug-in(s) if a program you're working on or playing needs it),.
Post by: Dragon__lance on July 17, 2006, 08:52:00 am
Post by: Spellshaper on July 17, 2006, 09:06:00 am
I suggest that plugins be named
XPLUG000
XPLUG001
etc.
with corresponding real commands
real(20,(syntax of plugin)
real(21,(syntax of plugin)
etc.
THAT WOULD PWN!
and it would also allow other programmers to make stuff xLib can work with, which should give tr1p1ea more free time! :lol:
(hey, that guy has made one of the best Apps in TI history, he shuld have some time to realx, too ;)
)
Post by: Demon on July 18, 2006, 11:11:00 am
Post by: josephmarin on July 19, 2006, 10:11:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 19, 2006, 10:39:00 am
Post by: kalan_vod on July 19, 2006, 10:46:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 19, 2006, 11:40:00 am
Post by: kalan_vod on July 19, 2006, 12:00:00 pm
, also I made a post on MC:QuoteBegin-"kalan_vod"+-->
| QUOTE ("kalan_vod") |
| I was also thinking of level compression, where one would have a list that has the compression format and it would be an option to decompress it. Like when you do Real(2 for a tile map, 0 would be nothing, and 1 would make it convert the list into a matric and then load the matric into the map. I have been working on compression in my games lately and found that I am getting greater compression percentages with my way over RLE. Also I think it would be great just having any type of compression, where the user would have to run a program to convert the matric into a compressed list and xLIB would decompress it (did I make any sense?). |
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 19, 2006, 12:10:00 pm
Post by: kalan_vod on July 19, 2006, 12:37:00 pm
Post by: Demon on July 21, 2006, 09:23:00 am
- Sprite zooming.
- GS sprite command that would - everytime you ran it - take the sprite from pic one and display it and then the same from the next pic and display it. When you put it in a loop, you would have a GS sprite with only with command instead of two, plus this would make grayscale more possible on the normal TI-83+'s.
- Sprite inversion with only one command instead of two.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 21, 2006, 09:51:00 am
Post by: kalan_vod on July 21, 2006, 06:49:00 pm
Post by: threefingeredguy on July 21, 2006, 10:02:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 22, 2006, 01:11:00 am
| QUOTE (kalan_vod @ Jul 22 2006, 01:49 AM) |
| Yeah, JFish wouldn't need a extra asm program to do the fish intro :P |
HE USE A PRGM TO ZOOM??????????????????? WHERE CAN I FIND IT????? O_O
O_OO_OO_OO_OO_OPost by: kalan_vod on July 22, 2006, 04:37:00 am
(A-theta, and more).@Kevin: Idk, you know the fish image at the start? Well he told me he uses a asm program for that.
Post by: Dragon__lance on July 22, 2006, 09:26:00 am
another cool feature would be auto install from inside the program :)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 22, 2006, 01:23:00 pm
| QUOTE (kalan_vod @ Jul 22 2006, 11:37 AM) |
| @TFG: You could use chars for other tiles too ;) (A-theta, and more). @Kevin: Idk, you know the fish image at the start? Well he told me he uses a asm program for that. |
at first i thought it was a serie of images stored in several pics, i wish i found the prgm on ticalc, if implemented in xlib it would pwn for pseudo 3d space shooters and racing games ^^
Post by: Demon on July 24, 2006, 08:45:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 25, 2006, 02:26:00 am
Post by: necro on July 25, 2006, 09:28:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 26, 2006, 02:52:00 am
Post by: lolje on July 26, 2006, 03:07:00 am
:grr:
:flame:
:ihatemypc:
I don't know exactly why they're caused but it has always somthing to do with the Save-Picture-command
( real(9.0 ).
e.g. if you type "real(9.1.randint(0,255))"->Y1 and then press GRAPH your RAM 'll be cleared
Something is wrong with this command...
After that I would recommend to include a command to delete/archive/unarchive programs and pics.
especcially archiving (HACKED) pics would be VERY useful because this way you could save a lot of memory because xlib commands can read the pic-data also when the pics are archived.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 26, 2006, 03:14:00 am
Post by: kalan_vod on July 26, 2006, 07:57:00 am
(I do this in chips).
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 26, 2006, 08:42:00 am
Post by: Demon on July 31, 2006, 09:00:00 am
| QUOTE |
| e.g. if you type "real(9.1.randint(0,255))"->Y1 and then press GRAPH your RAM 'll be cleared Something is wrong with this command... |
Well, one thing is that you said randInt(0,255) - maybe that should be randInt(1,255).
Post by: Zeromus on August 01, 2006, 03:11:00 am
Post by: Halifax on August 09, 2006, 01:19:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 09, 2006, 01:25:00 pm
[19:41:54]
not really good at all, *xlibman
Post by: Dragon__lance on August 09, 2006, 03:32:00 pm
Post by: Halifax on August 09, 2006, 04:06:00 pm
Post by: kalan_vod on August 09, 2006, 05:16:00 pm
| QUOTE (xlibman @ Aug 9 2006, 07:25 PM) |
| pyro went on tcpa today and did !seen tr1p1ea and this is the result [19:41:54] not really good at all, *xlibman is getting worried |
He has been really busy, he has been posting at MC and RS..give him time ;)
Post by: threefingeredguy on August 09, 2006, 10:08:00 pm
| QUOTE (Killerplayer @ Aug 9 2006, 07:19 PM) |
| There should be a routine so you can display grayscale by display the lcd 66% of the time and then have the second layer displayed 33% of the time so we can create 4 level grayscale easier. |
Not possible.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 10, 2006, 02:36:00 am
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| The TI-85 and higher-number calculators have a memory mapped screen. That means a section of the calculator's RAM that holds a bit image of the screen is constantly being monitored. Whenever a byte in this area is changed, the display changes immediately. It is also possible to change the RAM area the driver looks at with a single port output. By switching the buffer location back and forth rapidly, you could create Game Boy-style flickerless 4- or 8-level grayscale. Unfortunately, the "crap series" (everything lower than a TI-85) uses a driver that stores the screen image in its own RAM. In order to change the display, you have to send each byte in the image to the driver. It is also a very slow driver which needs a delay every time it is accessed. Hopefully you are sufficiently depressed now, so let's look at how to make the Toshiba T6A04 (that's the name of the driver) our b****. Control Ports The two ports that control the LCD are $10 Post by: lolje on August 10, 2006, 02:56:00 am Really genious would be aroutine which needs 2 pics input and then uses them for displaying a greyscale-picture while waiting for a key and storing the number of the key into ans. That could be e.g. used for Rpgs... you only need 2 layers to create 4-lvl-greyscale, allright? So you could create the two pics with the tilemap-function, store them, and then use THIS new function to create a (think so) quite flickerless greyscale. And when you have the getkey in ans afterward it would be perfect! Basically that would be the loop containing grey+getkey, just in asm. Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 10, 2006, 03:32:00 am Post by: Dragon__lance on August 10, 2006, 04:27:00 am Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 10, 2006, 04:36:00 am Post by: TsiJiang on August 17, 2006, 08:54:00 am Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 18, 2006, 10:13:00 am Post by: Spellshaper on August 18, 2006, 10:15:00 am That's why I didn't implement one. Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 18, 2006, 11:00:00 am Post by: Spellshaper on August 18, 2006, 11:11:00 am Post by: lolje on August 25, 2006, 02:08:00 am @topic: So what's up??? Is there still progress on xLIB? What features will be implemented?Please answer these questions! Why not start a poll about the xLIB features and then implement the features with the most votes??? oh and I also missed a circle-routine in the real(12 - task... Post by: necro on August 25, 2006, 02:38:00 am Post by: threefingeredguy on August 25, 2006, 04:26:00 am
I am sure tr1p1ea will implement what he wants regardless of what poll results are. Post by: Halifax on August 25, 2006, 06:45:00 am Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 25, 2006, 09:48:00 am
well tr1p1ea said he may not be working on it for a while if I remember, I think personally it is his choice to add what he want, better not put too much pressure either. Lol look what xlib can do actually . @everyone: this topic was just to provide suggestion for xlib new features, not to decide what feature will be implemented in the next version. It was started because some people doesnt visit maxcoderz or even know about it at all yet and since tr1p occasionally come here he know what ppl from here would like What about 8 level grayscale pic support? That would pwn so much. I know tifreak8x may not do good use of program though %)  Post by: threefingeredguy on August 25, 2006, 02:28:00 pm
That was already shot down in this topic. On the same page, in fact. Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 25, 2006, 03:15:00 pm Post by: lolje on August 28, 2006, 01:41:00 am Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 28, 2006, 01:56:00 am
Post by: lolje on September 07, 2006, 04:58:00 am  but I'm still very interested in getting an answer for my question what Features will be included next... Hmm maybe tr1p1ea doesn't really know himself what he's going to include next??? Anyways, I'll need to ask him on IRC next time I see him... Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 07, 2006, 05:50:00 am Post by: Demon on September 07, 2006, 01:45:00 pm "I have a cat.->Str0 "cat->Str8 "dog->Str9 Ans: "I have a dog. If Str9 is undefined, Ans: "I have a . - Input on Graph screen. - Put STO and double-quote into Ans. Or even better, put a specific character into Ans. Even that black box that blinks on the homescreen (that would be cool) Ex. real(11,0 Ans: "-> reall(11,1 Ans: "" Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 08, 2006, 01:33:00 am  ???
Post by: Spellshaper on September 08, 2006, 06:11:00 am
I second that. no understand stuff you say. :alien:  Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 20, 2006, 01:37:00 am real(20,23,14,"HELLO I'M XLIB.","BUBBLE which is basically real(20,X-Location,Y-Location,TextToDisplay,FileName i dunno if it is possible tho to access data in a program from a xlib function Post by: Speler on October 20, 2006, 07:57:00 am Post by: necro on October 20, 2006, 11:14:00 am Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 21, 2006, 02:44:00 am Post by: dinhotheone on November 13, 2006, 12:31:00 pm is anyone else having this problem? Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 14, 2006, 03:43:00 am They are back up at the moment but it's only the forum, the portal is gone for a while. they often go down though, they doesn't have a very reliable webhost :( make sure to check on their forums in the xLIB sub forums, there should be lot of info here. http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://kvince83.tengun.net/maxboard/viewforum.php?f=21 Plus you can find xLIB at ticalc.org or Omnimaga download section since their portal is down (Calc RPG and programming tools->TI Programming Tools->xLIB 0.601b) :)  And some more documentation (altough not finished yet): http://xlib.revsoft.org |