Omnimaga
Calculator Community => Other Calculators => Topic started by: DJ Omnimaga on September 26, 2008, 02:00:29 am
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This is a rough estimate of the monthly post stats on the old Omnimaga website. However it is not accurate since these stats found on webarchive.org starts around the 12 of each month and a lot of them, especially older ones and the temp board ones, were brought back from memory (Technically Feb 08 was the most inactive period, followed by Sept 05 then June 07. Jan 06, Apr 06 and Jan 07 were the most active ones). However it should give you a small idea of the evolution of the old board. Note that in July 2006 the stats are really innacurate though, as the entire link section of about 300 sites got deleted.
CUMULATIVE POST COUNT OVER THE MONTHS (starting the 12th of every month until 2008 downtime)
05/12/05 0
06/12/05 1224
07/12/05 2096
08/12/05 2614
09/12/05 3448
10/12/05 3983
11/12/05 5065
12/12/05 6735
01/12/06 9457
02/12/06 13482
03/12/06 15984
04/12/06 18687
05/12/06 22734
06/12/06 25120
07/12/06 26763
08/12/06 28095
09/12/06 30256
10/12/06 31926
11/12/06 33514
12/12/06 36996
01/12/07 39589
02/12/07 41626
03/12/07 42230
04/12/07 43277
05/12/07 44152
06/12/07 45214
07/12/07 45652
08/12/07 47223
09/12/07 48696
10/12/07 50721
11/12/07 52672
12/12/07 54540
01/12/08 55487
02/12/08 56145
03/04/08 56401
08/25/08 56401 (downtime from March 4th 2008 to August 25th 2008)
09/01/08 56447
10/01/08 57249
11/01/08 57724
12/01/08 58723
01/01/09 59270
02/01/09 60117
03/01/09 61525
04/01/09 62589
05/01/09 63411
06/01/09 64842
07/01/09 66491
08/01/09 67631
09/01/09 68458
10/01/09 69792
11/01/09 70621
12/01/09 72180
01/01/10 74274
02/01/10 76865
03/01/10 79479
04/01/10 84801
05/01/10 90231
06/01/10 94594
06/22/10 99577
POSTS PER MONTH (for each period ending the 12th of each month until 2008 downtime)
05/12/05 START
06/12/05 1224
07/12/05 872
08/12/05 518
09/12/05 834
10/12/05 535
11/12/05 1082
12/12/05 1670
01/12/06 2722
02/12/06 4025
03/12/06 2502
04/12/06 2703
05/12/06 4047
06/12/06 2386
07/12/06 1643
08/12/06 1332
09/12/06 2161
10/12/06 1670
11/12/06 1588
12/12/06 3482
01/12/07 2593
02/12/07 2037
03/12/07 604
04/12/07 1047
05/12/07 875
06/12/07 1062
07/12/07 438
08/12/07 1571
09/12/07 1473
10/12/07 2025
11/12/07 1951
12/12/07 1868
01/12/08 947
02/12/08 658
03/04/08 256
08/25/08 0 (downtime from March 4th 2008 to August 25th 2008)
09/01/08 46
10/01/08 802
11/01/08 475
12/01/08 999
01/01/09 547
02/01/09 847
03/01/09 1408
04/01/09 1064
05/01/09 822
06/01/09 1431
07/01/09 1649
08/01/09 1140
09/01/09 827
10/01/09 1334
11/01/09 829
12/01/09 1559
01/01/10 2094
02/01/10 2591
03/01/10 2614
04/01/10 5322
05/01/10 5430
06/01/10 4363
06/22/10 5104
According to these numbers, the old Omnimaga website averaged at 20075 posts a year, 1673 a month and 55 a day. We were close or above the average from November 2005 to February 2007 and from July 2007 to December 2007.
Some facts:
-On the old site I always found out that when we had 1000 posts per month or above, we were good. Under that it meant inactivity.
-Starting early Feb 07 until early July 07, the reason why you see such a drastic drop in activity is because at that time I lost internet access at home and pretty much everyone else went inactive when I left. Through that time I had some rare occasions where I could get online at internet cafés though but the board nearly died late June 07.
-From March 07 to July 07 we got hit by a big wave of spambots, so much that we had to require admin validation of all accounts and on June 27th 2007, at 3:01 PM GMT-5, the large amount of bots crawling the board rose our "users online in the past 60 minutes" count to 491.
-After the old board closed on Jan 1st 08 there were requests for a temp board. It was active during the first 3 weeks then died. We got a small activity peak during a few days in the middle of February but it was short lived. The inactivity plus the repeated spam attacks by the anti-Omnimaga people you all heard about lead to the site closing.
-In July 2006 the entire website links section was officially taken down, which caused the total post count to drop by 300. This decision was made due to TI-Freakware having a similar link section, despite only TI, but this didn't made any difference because at that point most HP and Casio sites listed shutted down.
I am curious if after a couple of months we will be able to do this good again? I know the community is supposed to be less active since the past 2 years but it was common that UTI and Omnimaga were always the two most active TI forums since 2006 (UTI had the lead most of the time). Quite ironically, it still seems to be this way today, according to what I saw in the TI community
Last edit Jun 22th 2010: updated post count list. Seems a bit off now, with deleted bot posts, though... oh well. And It looks like we did not only got able to do as good as in 2006 again, but we shattered those records :P
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Great stats, I'm sure when Omnimaga gets more members it will be that active again.
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deleted graph, see post below for updated one
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Wow, I though we were more active in Jan..lol
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UTI is loosing with Omnimaga now, I think.
But UTI is the most complete forum in TI stuff. Has TI-BASIC math and more ASM than this forum. So I prefer to be more active there and 2nd Omnimaga. :)
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I think UTI is just going through an inactivity slump, right now. Sonic progresses so slowly, regular members aren't updating their projects much anymore and the only other progressing project seems to be Robot War. It will eventually pick up again and TI-Freakware will do the same as Pokémon starts progressing again. Omnimaga has remained active because there are so many projects currently progressing. Watch activity go down if most goes inactive at once O.O (this usually happens during summer)
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We seem to have picked up alot of steam recently. Omnimaga's been pretty active latley. ^^_
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quite a big contrast with the temporary board in February. I think the problem is that the entire staff including myself and members took the board backup restoration for granted and expected to be more active when we switch back, but it never happened so I guess everyone just gave up, because at the same time UTI/TIFW were still getting regular activity
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eh, it doesn't matter to me. though it is still pretty cool and all.
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I have to show my math stuff to awake thornahawk and Weregoose. hehehe Maybe right after replying stuff.
You are right, UTI projects inactivity have slowed down everything.
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I made an updated graph of the posting stats. November stats are incomplete, though, since month is incomplete. It will most likely be at least two hundred higher. I expect December to be very low, though, especially later in the month.
They are also avaliable at the forum stat page, with day by day posts, but it excludes the stats from the old board
EDIT: Updated graph Jan 28th 2010
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After calculations, if the old board was restored, excluding the temporary Zetaboard, we would be over 70000 posts now. Lifetime, the total TI forum post counts (excluding Ticalc.org) are approximately the following (that takes in account possible deleted posts and database wipes):
Yaronet 68k board 300000* (2001)
United-TI 135000 (2003)
MaxCoderz 115000 (2002)
Cemetech 105000 (2004)
TICT board 90000 (2000)
Omnimaga 72500 (2005)
TI-Bank 72000 (2004)
TI-Gen 61000 (2004)
Calcgames 50000 (2001)
Detacheds 40000 (2002)
Yaronet z80 38000* (2002)
Tama Team 29000 (2007)
TI-Wereld 28000 (2007)
Revsoft 20000 (2004)
TI-Freakware 15000 (2005)
TICALCS.net 12700 (2004)
TI-BASIC Dev 11000 (2006)
Unsyntax 3200 (2006)
OTBP 2200 (2006)
*Until 2004, the z80 forum on Yaronet was hosted elsewhere and also covered 68K. In 2004, when the board was converted to yAronet format, all 68k topics were relocated to the alerady existing 68k forum there. This board now also includes the TI French Team forum.
This lists only contains the TI forums that are still up and had at least one human post since 2008.
Red = english TI websites with z80 stuff on them
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There are some time put on collecting the statistics to us... Still it was curious to see the results. I didn't have an idea that yAronet was that big.
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Actually, for most forums, it just involved checking the total post count. For the rest, it was easy to remember shut downs, hackings and crashes, because I have been around the TI community for over 8 years. But yeah, yAronet 68k forum always leaded the entire community, by far. TICT used to do so too but it kinda died in the past few years.
I am pretty sure that if we calculated the posts made in 2009 only for each of these boards, Omnimaga, United-TI and Cemetech would probably lead. Cemetech had a long period of inactivity earlier this year and for a short while this summer, though, so maybe TI-BANK would steal its top 3 spot.
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It is amazing what you can find with a IRC log search engine. Here are, some posting stats from the old Omnimaga forums, the two most active periods on record:
January 7th - 2006 219
January 8th - 2006 227
January 9th - 2006 230
January 10th - 2006 245
January 11th - 2006 263
January 12th - 2006 184
April 20th - 2006 211
April 21st - 2006 240
April 22nd - 2006 184
April 23rd - 2006 181
April 24th - 2006 183
April 25th - 2006 139
April 26th - 2006 172
April 27th - 2006 207
April 28th - 2006 120
April 29th - 2006 230
April 30th - 2006 286
May 1st - 2006 194
These happened during the two months the forums hit 4000+ posts
However godamnit the userbase was spammish on IRC back then... (they were OK on forums, tho)
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What I just saw was pretty shocking.
I figured out a way to approximately calculate the activity of a forum that uses Invisionboard. What you have to do is something like this:
http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=????????
The ??????s are the post ID you want to show. Basically, this will bring up the topic that contain this post, in a way similar to Ticalc.org comment pages. Then you search the topic until you find that post. Each posts should have a similar ID at the end. So basically I was curious and decided to approximately calculate UTI activity so far this month, by taking the lastest post ID then substracting the first post of February (GMT-5) I could find. The results were far worse than I expected and were kinda shocking: UTI only got 305 posts this month! From Feb 1st to 20th, this is all they got. This is barely higher than what we got when this new board opened and I wonder if this couldn't be lower than what they got during Winter 2007 and Winter 2008. On top of that, there's a nice Nspire hacking thread there. I was sure they had at least 600 this month so far, but the 131K total barely moving at all brought my attention and now I think I will try doing a graph of the past few months. I am sure it's not just the downtimes they had because they have been back for a while now and even got a lot of new members
First post this month (based approximately on Omnimaga timezone): http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=8191&view=findpost&p=140118
Last post this month at the time of writing this: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=9246&view=findpost&p=140423
Cemetech has hit 1103 this month so far. They are in the same default timezone as us.
First post of the month: http://cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=93362#93362
Last post of the month (so far): http://cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=94465#94465
More from UTI: first posts of every month
Sep 1st 08: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=126518
Oct 1st 08: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=127461
Nov 1st 08: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=128370
Dec 1st 08: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=129773
Jan 1st 09: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=130765
Feb 1st 09: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=131241
Mar 1st 09: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=131733
Apr 1st 09: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=132311
May 1st 09: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=133045
Jun 1st 09: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=133885
Jul 1st 09: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=134652
Aug 1st 09: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=135146
Sep 1st 09: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=136157
Oct 1st 09: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=137025
Nov 1st 09: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=138101
Dec 1st 09: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=139032
Jan 1st 10: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=139611
Feb 1st 10: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=140118
This means UTI monthly post stats since school year 2008 have been:
Sep 08: 943
Oct 08: 909
Nov 08: 1403
Dec 08: 992
Jan 09: 476
Feb 09: 492
Mar 09: 578
Apr 09: 734
May 09: 840
Jun 09: 797
Jul 09: 494
Aug 09: 1011
Sep 09: 868
Oct 09: 1076
Nov 09: 931
Dec 09: 579
Jan 10: 507
Feb 10: 305 (1st through 20th, 5-ish PM)
At first, I was certain UTI was more active than that in late 2008 and most of 2009, especially with the key factoring threads, so when I saw the activity drop from Oct 09 to the months afterward, I told myself either the downtime didn't help (altough I would be surprised considering it has been a long while and the site status indicated it would be back up in a short time), either the lack of project updates on some old projects (such as Robot War and the Pokémon clones) is what drags down activity, either it is turning more into a help forum, like TI-BANK, where people ask questions then leave, either the population is aging (which also means more busy at school and work), either people are busy messing around with the Nspire stuff or either some ppl in particular are scaring members away. But it seems that activity wasn't as high as I thought last year either. In fact, it seems worse during the Winter part. I guess it just looked more active because the discussion was spread among multiple project and help topics, while now it's pretty much centered in the Nspire hacking thread. I am gonna make a graph to compare both Omni and UTI, because I was convinced both were at teh same activity level until Novemeber 2009, I didn't thought activity on UTI was low during Winter 2009 as well. Also, it seems activity slumps on both sites aren't even at the same periods. While UTI gets an activity boost in August and October, on Omnimaga these two months are the most inactive.
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Curious. I don't know what happened to DigiTan in UTI... :S
Have you documented in this thread the Revsoft side forum by Jim e? The most active TI forum ever. xD
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Wow. I never realized UTI was that low, compared to here. I think Omnimaga is more active because everyone is nice, and then people post their projects here.
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Yeah I hope Digitan didn't give up on Robot War x.x, it would suck
That said it might be people being nice and the projects that are progressing (mostly game-related) that helps on activity. When MaxCoderz had active staff with projects in the works, they had similar activity. Even Revsoft had high activity for a while in 2006.
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1st Maxcoderz post by year (since 2005):
2005 http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?p=685#p685
2006 http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?p=35603#p35603
2007 http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?p=55948#p55948
2008 http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?p=63063#p63063
2009 http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?p=65048#p65048
2010 http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?p=66367#p66367
This means the yearly post stats for MaxCoderz would be:
2005 34918
2006 20345
2007 7115
2008 1985
2009 1319
2010 78 (as for Feb 23rd 10)
Note: keep in mind during Summer 2006, an URL change for both the site and forums occured and this change was never announced anywhere else but MC, not even their game readmes. Also, at this time, they ditched their entire front page with all their past history (FFTOM, Desolate, GS package downloads and the like) and never re-added them again afterward, and with the lack of staff renewal afterward (only Quarnos was added to the team and both Ben/tr1p were changed from staff to admin) pretty much doomed them.
Revsoft 1st posts of every year since 05:
2005 http://www.revsoft.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=10#10
2006 http://www.revsoft.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=3528#3528
2007 http://www.revsoft.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=11276#11276
2008 http://www.revsoft.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=15648#15648
2009 http://www.revsoft.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=18244#18244
2010 http://www.revsoft.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=20631#20631
Yearly post stats:
2005 3518
2006 7748
2007 4372
2008 2596
2009 2387
2010 230 (as for Feb 23rd 10)
Yes, I'm not kidding you: for the past 3 years, Revsoft had more activity than MaxCoderz :o
UTI 1st post every year
2005 http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=45622
2006 http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=65655
2007 http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=93995
2008 http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=117980
2009 http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=130765
2010 http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=139611
UTI Yearly post stats
2005 20033
2006 28340
2007 23985
2008 12785
2009 8876
2010 838 (as for Feb 23rd 10)
Omnimaga now.
Since I have direct access to stats, no need to show first post of every year, so here are the stats since 2005:
2005 9457 1
2006 30132
2007 15898
2008 3783 2
2009 15004
2010 4706 (as for Feb 23rd 10)
1 - Board opened on May 12th 2005
2 - Omni had no forums from March 4th 2008 to August 25th 2008
EDIT: Cemetech now
2005 http://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3
2006 http://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20022
2007 http://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=56542
2008 http://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=71861
2009 http://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=78535
2010 http://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=91070
Posts by year for Cemetech since March 16th 2005 (I couldn't access their old Invisionfree board, because Kerm put a redirect on it,and Firefox Redirect Remover fails on it):
2005 20019 1
2006 36520
2007 15319 2
2008 6674
2009 12535
2010 3510 (as for Feb 23rd 2010)
1 - Board opened on March 16th 2005. As said above, I couldn't access the Invisionfree one.
2 - Misses about 3000 posts of stats, due to Jatol incident (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=632124)
EDIT: TIBD (this is an hard one due to lack of post IDs just for TIBD...)
2005 site not yet opened
2006 http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/forum/t-327/testing-the-forum-and-comments-system#post-592
2007 http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/forum/t-2453/menu-on-ti-98-titanium#post-7027
2008 http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/releasing-your-program/comments/show#post-85765
2009 http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/forum/t-116351/ti-basic-to-operating-system
2010 http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/forum/t-208069/differentiation
Posts by year for TIBD since 2006 (year the site opened)
2005 site not yet opened
2006 9 (site forum opened on Sept 14th 2006)
2007 423
2008 6193
2009 4577
2010 348 (as for Feb 23rd 2010)
I still remember TIBD forum opening. At first it didn't draw interest, as most people still used UTI and TIFW and TIBD was not very known yet. However by 2008 it got more popular and forum quickly picked up. However, activity had up and downs by the end of 2009.
OTBP:
2005 site not yet opened
2006 site not yet opened
2007 http://otbp.tifreakware.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=2 (forum opened on Jan 17th 2007)
2008 http://otbp.tifreakware.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=2003
2009 http://otbp.tifreakware.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=2136
2010 none so far
By year post stats since 2005
2005 site not yet opened
2006 site not yet opened
2007 2002 (forum opened on Jan 17th 2007)
2008 133
2009 183
2010 0 (as for Feb 23rd 2010)
I think Calc84maniac vanishing completly from the TI community from Oct 07 to Dec 07 killed OTBP.
z80 Revelation, from Archive.org. It only survived 6 months so I took the latest cache from 2005. I did it anyway since that's still 583 posts, which is ok for a small forum.
2005 583 posts
2006 0
2007 0
HRP
2005 Site not yet opened
2006 http://hrp.myfastforum.org/sutra2.php#2
2007 http://hrp.myfastforum.org/sutra356.php#356
2008 http://hrp.myfastforum.org/sutra432.php#432
2009 none
2010 none
By year post stats
2005 site not yet opened
2006 354 (opened on April 10th 2006)
2007 78
2008 2
2009 0
2010 0
I am surprised this board is still online :O, but sadly it was one other board that opened while there were too many other forums around
TICALCS.NET (not to be confused with ticalc.org)
2005 board not yet opened (well, it was on proboards, but PB system woN't let me grab stats)
2006 http://forum.ticalcs.net/showthread.php?pid=10
2007 http://forum.ticalcs.net/showthread.php?pid=4752
2008 http://forum.ticalcs.net/showthread.php?pid=6339
2009 http://forum.ticalcs.net/showthread.php?pid=6605
2010 http://forum.ticalcs.net/showthread.php?pid=7172
Per year stats
2005 forum not yet opened
2006 4742
2007 1587
2008 266
2009 567
2010 174
I am surprised this is still active, but I guess bfr does a good job at keeping it active, altough it kinda sucks he left us x.x
Detacheds Solutions:
2005 http://www.detachedsolutions.com/forum/m/26257/#msg_26257
2006 http://www.detachedsolutions.com/forum/m/30630/#msg_30630
2007 http://www.detachedsolutions.com/forum/m/34386/#msg_34386
2008
2009
2010
DS post stats
2005 4373
2006 3756
2007 1263
2008 274
2009 76
2010 0 (as for Feb 23rd 10)
TI-Freakware. Thanks tifrea8x for sending me the stats.
2005 1161 (board opened on May 05)
2006 4425
2007 3269
2008 4028
2009 736
2010 104 (as for Feb 23rd)
TIFW used to do very good. They also got an activity boost in 2008 after Omni shut down, but TI-Freak8x vanishing almost completly from the TI community in late 2008 and through most of 2009, Ranman and Halifax leaving, the rest of the staff becoming inactive and lack of staff renewal (and checking to ensure they will post on forums) pretty much killed TIFW.
Also I won't be doing CalcG.Org because of their post system making it impossible to know the stats.
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HA I knew Omnimaga was better. I always liked this forum much more than any other TI forum. You have more freedom and people are really nice and helpful here.
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UTI and Omnimaga are by far the most active! :D Is it possible to do this to TIBD, or would it be too hard?
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HA I knew Omnimaga was better. I always liked this forum much more than any other TI forum. You have more freedom and people are really nice and helpful here.
Actually I wouldn't say freedom as in speech, since on Revsoft, Calcgames, Cemetech you can pretty much say anything you want even if it's offensive/derogatory (as long as you don't post racism/warez/malware/shock sites/porn/flood/spam) and on UTI/MaxCoderz/TIBD you can do so too, now (altough still to a lesser extent, since you'll get badmouthed for it). Over here if you troll you can get banned. However, in terms of project showcase, members have by far more freedom over here in terms of content. Of course this cannot be seen as much by newbies, who migth be scared thinking we only allow high quality projects, but in fact any project is welcome (altough these BASIC shells, menu-based games, math programs and programs that has been done 10000 times before will obviously not draw as much attention). I posted about that Nitacku grayscale package oN TIFW in 2008, as well as the RPG demo I was making, and I posted about Illusiat 13 on TIBD forums, and nobody cared.Is it possible to do this to TIBD, or would it be too hard?
All depends if the forum software allows browsing posts by their ID numbers or from newest to the very first post ever (altough for the later it is much harder to calculate)
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Ok I done UTI now. Some facts:
From November 2004 to December 2004, United-TI witnessed major server issues: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=2535
This pretty much killed their userbase. I was there, sometimes, and remember the page loadings of about 18 minutes. At this time they alerady had about 40000 posts in 1.5 years, but despite being the only major active TI z80 forum in english at the time (MaxCoderz was hacked, EPS was still very new, Omnimaga Invisionfree board was far from opening), it still took them months to recover in terms of activity. In addition to that, Arcane Wizard trolling was not helping (he got warned, tho, so he stopped for the next 2 years). Basically, this is why United-TI activity was that low in 2005 compared to MaxCoderz.
Some Omnimaga members became more active on United-TI in 2007. No offense to some of the old Omni board userbase but a lot of people there were not loyal to the site, they only came on it because that's the only place I was active on. This helped boosting UTI activity from Feb 07 to June 07.
In 2008, Omnimaga closed until August 25th 2008. Many Omni members chosen UTI as new home, others, TIFW. However, the total activity of both never went close to 2007 total levels.
In 2009, the community picked up again in overall, but inactive forums never really recovered.
EDIT: Here's what I have so far in graph (updated):
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Ok I compiled Cemetech too now, looks like over the years, their activity was pretty similar to Omnimaga, altough slightly higher. Keep in mind their 2007 stats are a bit lower because of Jatol incident and that they have A LOT of off-topic talk since 2007
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An now TIBD is done too. This one was hard because Posts IDs on Wikidot are network-wide, not by forum basis, so I couldnt browse posts using my method. Luckily they had a list of the last post until the first post ever, so after patience I could finally do it. Plus for 2007 it didn't took a while since they weren too active back then. I updated the graph two posts ago
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This month was quite active too. How do I know how much?
And many new sections. Another great month for Omnimaga. :D
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Galandros, check this page: http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=stats
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Well so far this February is the most active february in Omnimaga history. The highest activity we ever got on a February was 2502 in 2006.
This was funny back then. The previous month we had 4025 (1.5x more than what we got last month) and in Feb when activity dropped to like 80-90 posts a day, some people started complaining and getting worried about a huge activity drop :P
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Well so far this February is the most active february in Omnimaga history. The highest activity we ever got on a February was 2502 in 2006.
This was funny back then. The previous month we had 4025 (1.5x more than what we got last month) and in Feb when activity dropped to like 80-90 posts a day, some people started complaining and getting worried about a huge activity drop :P
80-90 post is still good posting for forums with this kind of registered users. :/
Less than 10 post a day is boring and really worrying.
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Less than 10 post a day is boring and really worrying.
I agree. :D
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Keep in mind, though, that if like 60% of these 80 posts are just spam, this isn't that great, though. On the old board when we had 4000 posts in a month, about 2000 were in the randomness section and 500 in the offtopic section. Now, there are 2000+ posts, but most are calc-related.
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Keep in mind, though, that if like 60% of these 80 posts are just spam, this isn't that great, though. On the old board when we had 4000 posts in a month, about 2000 were in the randomness section and 500 in the offtopic section. Now, there are 2000+ posts, but most are calc-related.
Wow, >50% non-calc? That's a lot.
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well the thing is that some of the staff kinda stopped coding when hired and only posted in the spam section. Altough I liked some of them, it seemed like the old team didn't really care that much about calc stuff.
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well the thing is that some of the staff kinda stopped coding when hired and only posted in the spam section. Altough I liked some of them, it seemed like the old team didn't really care that much about calc stuff.
That's too bad. I'm glad that all the staff now has projects. ;D
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well the thing is that some of the staff kinda stopped coding when hired and only posted in the spam section. Altough I liked some of them, it seemed like the old team didn't really care that much about calc stuff.
That's too bad. I'm glad that all the staff now has projects. ;D
It is one of the requirements, isn't it? DJ experience is very good to the community, it is his work that keep this forum so great. ;)
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Yeah it is. And some minimum post rate to make sure staff won't just vanish completly during 5 months like what always happens anywhere else, altough most current staff have a much higher post rate than this (especially Ztrumpet and Builderboy :P)
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Btw today was a 200+ post day
Aside from Netham45+Tenniskid493 new year 2K7 spam (they wanted to get the last post of 2006 based on their timezones and flooded a topic in Randomness/Spam section), I don't think this happened in over 3 years.
I noticed the site takes slightly longer to load since the past few days from time to time, though :P
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Yesterday the post count took fire. Wow. ;D
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Now there's one thing I am curious about, though: The amount of page requests for starcraft.swf. :P
Also IIRC Techno Revolution is still the most downloaded file from our server after index.php, according to 1and1 page views stats last time I checked
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The posts really fire. I don't have time to keep up the activity right now.
Maybe the Starcraft ...rickroll... is the most viewed. :P I am going to be censured because of the spoiler. xD
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I noticed your activity kinda dropped, as well as certain other people like Builderboy. I guessed it was due to exams or stuff, or that they are in vacation away from home due to Spring break.
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Hi, I'm back for a day, some spare time. We have band practice in 5:00 in the morning so I have been losing a lot of sleep, and have less time for hw, so less free time in general D:
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Aw this sucks, I hope you get more free time again soon :(
You also haven't been on IRC much anymore x.x
bwang was there btw, altough idle most of the time.
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Yeah i rarely have a big enough block of time to get on IRC. With the forums i can post whenever i have a free moment.
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You could join during a few seconds, part, do homework question, rejoin, repeat, etc
J/k you'll get banned I think :P (since it would flood the channel)
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The Omnimaga staff on December 31st 2007 (final day before the shut down):
DJ Omnimaga*, tifreak8x*, tenniskid493, Rivereye*, Alex, Ranman*, Art_Of_Camelot*, bfr*, Halifax*, Jon, Liazon*, lolje, Necro*, Netham45*, Radical_Pi*, Sonata, Spellshaper, Super_Speler*, Nitacku*, Harrierfalcon*
*note: asterisks denotes the staff that recently posted on the board before the shut down (not necessarly coding). In other words, the rest was inactive.
Purple and blue was the equivalent of admin, but purple was the root account, which no other admin could delete or modify. Other admins had restriced admin CP access. On the new Omnimaga forums, all admins (blue) are the equivalent of purple on the old board.
The green group was the global moderator/manager group. These members had global moderator and temporary banning priviledges. They couldn't permban, though. This group was phased out with the time and finally did on the temp board.
The red group was the Coders Of Tomorrow group. This group had almost all moderator priviledges the green one had until late 2006, where they became restricted outside their projects sub-forums, due to abuse (such as staff unlocking topics I was locking and editing other posts for no reason). On the temporary board, as the Manager group dissapeared, the COT group became green. After the two anon raids of Feb 11th and 12th 2008, the entire remaining staff (Me, tifreak8x, netham45, art_of_camelot, bfr, liazon, necro, radical_pi, super_speler, nitacku) were granted global moderator priviledges and ban powers. Basically, the COT group practically became the Manager group, while keeping its name.
The old board always ranged from 20 to 25 staff in 2006 and 2007. However, most were not as active working on projects and in some occasions, only about 3 staff were active at all working on something. Most logged in users in late 2007 were regular members. In the board final months, a colored nickname on the online list was something rare, especially green.
For a short while, we had special usergroups too:
-Pixel artists (aqua): members with great pixel artist skills were put in that group. Unfortunately, most were inactive, so seeing a member under this nick color on the online list was pretty rare.
-Troublemakers (gray): On the old board, permanently banned users accounts were not deleted, they were put in a usergroup just for banned users. Spambots were deleted, though, else we would have got 4000 troublemakers.
-Elite (purple): members who had a sub-forum for their featured RPG projects were put in this usergroup. They had some priviledges on their sub-forum. This group was deleted after the featured RPG projects were taken down.
And certain members had their very own groups too (like how Netham45 has a pink nickname today):
-tr1p1ea (rainbow flashing nickname. This lasted through late 2006 and 2007)
-Spengo (banana icon besides nickname. This only lasted in March 2006)
On the board we have today, the same group as on the temp board were kept intact. Just new ones were added, such as contest judges (brown group, only lasted this summer), non staff irc chan ops (purple, all #omnimaga chanops has partial access to staff forum), lobsters (exact same thing, but just for Netham45 :P).
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With this topic you could assemble most important parts of Omnimaga history and comparative history to other z80 calculators forums.
/me pokes DJ to do it instead of giving information in parts
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well I might eventually add an about page with the history of the site. Not now, though, since it might be best if the old board returned, so I have more accurate info
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Updated graph (EDIT March 22nd - Updated again):
removed: updated graph below
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And finally updated with higher resolution. Now all detail can be seen. ;)
You included some forums I never knew that existed. Also Omnimaga is monopolizing soon the z80 forums posts. :D
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it was actually at this res before :O, I think I might have posted the wrong image, tho. I have a big and small one.
ANd yeah it really seems like that X.X, if I calculate correctly, we have like 54% of the entire z80 english community activity and that includes a lot of off-topicness from Cemetech. However, I noticed Cemetech has picked up again since KermMartian came back, though, which is good, and UTI seems to have ssome more activity at the moment.
UTI had higher activity in Jan-Feb 10 than Jan-Feb 09, but the increase was not that high
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Dec 2 2003 - 187281 -
Dec 6 2004 - 258566 - 71285 since Dec 2 2003
Jan 15 2006 - 275767 - 17201 since Dec 6 2004
Dec 3 2006 - 284813 - 9046 since Jan 15 2006
Dec 27 2007 - 297524 - 12711 since Dec 3 2006
Aug 22 2008 - 304176 - 6652 since Dec 27 2007
As for Apr 6th 2010 - 313561
TI-BANK
Nov 11 2004 - 1162 -
Nov 27 2005 - 7290 - 6128 since Nov 11 2004
Dec 30 2006 - 29637 - 22347 since Nov 27 2005
Nov 11 2007 - 48285 - 18648 since Dec 30 2006
Jun 12 2008 - 57809 - 9524 since Nov 11 2007
As for Apr 6th 2010 - 81480
Archive.org doesn't appear to go further than Summer 2008... (I wonder if it died?)
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Here's an updated graph of the TI community activity as for April 12th 2010, 2:35 AM. Please note that this one omits all posts made on Revsoft from April 4th to April 12th, because Revsoft website is currently down and the latest Google cache is from April 4th. Revsoft should be around 300 now.
Personal comment: It seems Omnimaga and Cemetech are on pace to have an increase in activity over last year. UTI, however, despite still having some activity, seems to lag behind. Since most of their activity is usually during Spring and when school restarts, they might have a small chance to get back in the 10000s, though. With their recent site updates, maybe it will attract more people too. The return of their download section would help a lot (and maybe continuing being nice to new members, unlike last Fall and early Winter).
Revsoft forums are not very active, but a few projects seemed to be updated mostly behind the scenes, like, on group.revsoft.org. TIBD still has activity, but sometimes has a day or two with no new post, and seems to be going slower than it did in 2009. For some reasons, TICALCS (not ticalc.org) still seems a lil active. I was surprised considering the owner was gone for a few years. However, it's hammered by spambots so I had to check each post one by one to update the stats, else they would be in the high 500s. TIFW is barely active, but it's not dead. The major issue is Tifreak8x leaving for half a year in 2009 nearly killed their forums x.x, and Ranman departure didn't either. As for the others, I guess they're most likely dead. It seems like the TI community is going back to like it was in 2003-2004: centralized on fewer forums.
Currently, Omnimaga appears to have 60.5% of the entire combined activity of all the forums included in those graphics. Cemetech comes second with 24.4%, then in third position, United-TI, with 7.9%.
Do you think 2010 will see a total activity increase over 2009? It would be kinda nice to see. It could maybe show that calcs are still regaining more interest, as they did in 2009.
EDIT: removed outdated graph
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Updated graph. This time, the total amount of posts combined for each year is shown to the right. Looks like 2010 will see an increase in overall. Omnimaga alerady beaten its last year post count and it looks like Cemetech and TICALCS2 will see an increase over 2009. The later is overrun by bots but bots posts aren't counted in ticalcs.net total. It looks like other forums are all heading towards a decline, though (altough for UTI and Revsoft, extended downtimes did not help).
EDIT: removed outdated graph. Will update soon with new one.
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I managed to put the entire stats in OpenOffice. I wish I knew earlier that it was as simple as just pasting everything then the cellsheet prog formats everything in column for you. This allowed me to create a graphic showing the daily post stats on the new Omnimaga forums which opened on August 25th 2008. It is attached below.
As you can notice, a slow start, but a popularity increase around the 2009 contest time, then back to what it was before. Suddently, by November, activity starts increasing at a rapid rate then explodes one week after Ndless and gbc4nspire releases. A decrease then occurs in late April-May, but still way above what we used to get a year ago. Finally, in June, activity skyrockets again.
As you can see, there are quite a few 300+ post days in there, 4 of which are in June, 3 in the past 4 days.
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Moved this to calc discussion and news, because this is no longer only related to the old board stats, but the entire community as well and the new board.
First of all, for the first time since Jan 12th 2006, we had five consecutive days with at least 200 posts. The last time it happened was from Jan 7th to 11th 2006:
January 7th - 2006 219
January 8th - 2006 227
January 9th - 2006 230
January 10th - 2006 245
January 11th - 2006 263
And now:
June 15th - 2010 250
June 16th - 2010 363
June 17th - 2010 354
June 18th - 2010 261
June 19th - 2010 367
So far, here are all Omnimaga days of at least 250 posts, including the old board, in order of activity:
01/01/2007 - 669
06/19/2010 - 367
06/16/2010 - 363
03/23/2010 - 362
06/17/2010 - 354
04/07/2010 - 337
06/09/2010 - 323
06/10/2010 - 288
04/30/2006 - 286
04/18/2010 - 274
04/03/2010 - 268
01/11/2006 - 263
06/18/2010 - 261
06/11/2010 - 256
03/18/2010 - 250
05/26/2010 - 250
06/15/2010 - 250
I would simply include every post days of at least 200, but I believe we had one around when Zera announced Lost Legends on the old board on Halloween and maybe when Trevmeister66 joined in late 2006, and I do not have the stats for those days. For sure, they were not even close to 250, though.
Ties are sorted by daily page views.
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After the post sky rocket and went down, it did not decreased to the lower values as before the increases, interesting.
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I will probably try to get an updated graph of the community approximative activity since 2005 like the previous ones soon. I'll also obviously update the Omnimaga one on the stats page, too, which I had to edit a bit because of the huge June 2010 record we just got (that will most likely be very hard to beat for a long while :P. Maybe 9001 for June 2011? ;D would be nice for before Omni 10th anniversary on Sept 1st 2011 ;D)
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It is getting harder to keep up the number of records achieved.
Good to know the stats will be updated. Sometimes I check it. I will check again in a week or when I remember.
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Yeah, I was thinking about posting a news when we got two 300 posts day the same month at first, but then I decided against it, because I kinda predicted June to be more active. I was just unsure how much, given the 500 Internal Server Error problems one month ago and uncertain activity from some members. I just didn't want to end up filling the front page with posting record news every few days. In fact, a few days later, we reached 400, then the next day another 400, then we beaten our record of 5430 in a month, so finally, I just decided to wait until this month ends to post news about the activity records. We also need to remember this will probably take a long while before activity becomes this high again, anyway.
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Do you think we will manage 7000 this month? We are pretty close right now. By this month average, we probably would, but the graph attached to this post, if you look in the last few days trend, says otherwise D:
(btw I noticed Cemetech activity took a big drop too. UTI will have an hard time to make it through the Summer if no project news arrives x.x)
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(http://www.omnimaga.org/images/omnitraffic.png)
I wonder if next year we will hit 1 million requests in a month o.o
It also looks like we will hit the 5 millions milestone somewhere this month or in August and we had 3 months in a row above 100000 unique visitors
In June, our monthly page requests were only 7 times lower than what ticalc.org got.
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Well to my surprise, we just got our 2nd most active month in Omnimaga history. A slight drop over June but still higher than the rest of the year. We also had two days above 400 posts, like in June. In addition to that, we hit another traffic record this month, even if July is normally the least busy period of the year. The whole OS 2.1 fiasco most likely contributed a lot, though.
I haven't generated new graphics for the daily postcount, monthly visitors/requests and community activity yet, but you can take a look at the monthly post stats graph below (also available in the stats page):
(http://www.omnimaga.org/images/omnistats.png)
Also, since school is restarting soon, I've disabled most of the stats page for guests. That page alone was 50 SQL queries and took several seconds to generate, meaning OUCH on the database server. It will be re-enabled completly in the middle of September (or before if we receive no activity spike in late August)
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Cross-post from Cemetech,
I finally felt like checking forums to update my graphic again so here is it finally. Fortunately Ticalcs.net now filter most bots, so it's easier for me. Below you can get an idea of the activity on most English Z80 TI forums since 2005:
(http://xlib.mtv-music-generator.com/Englishz80poststatsAug8thUpdate_small.png)
(Click here to see larger image) (http://xlib.mtv-music-generator.com/Englishz80poststatsAug8thUpdate.png)
Unless there's a turnaround of events, UTI seems to be slowly following MaxCoderz now. Even if we combine UTI with TI-Basic Developer, which used to pretty much have the same userbase as UTI, they're still much lower than they were years ago.