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Title: Periodic table
Post by: Nick on December 18, 2011, 06:20:30 pm: Periodic table

http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=762

This is a Periodic table of the elements for the Nspire OS>=3.0. Fast, accurate and designed with care. The CX displays the different types of element (metals, nonmetals.. in a different color, the nonCX's only show the nonmetals and noble gasses in a different color (because of the 'bad' quality of greyscale). database includes:
Atomic number, relative weight, type, ionisation energy, elektronegativity, melting point, boiling point, density at 20°C, electron configuration, discovery, nr of natural isotopes, oxidation states, crystal structure, group, period and radioactivity.
It shows the crystal structure in a animated 3D form so you can perfectly see how it looks like. (most general form is shown).
A lot of thanks to LOIC PUJET (AKA Chockosta) for his TINY3D!

(http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/Periodic.gif) (http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/PeriodicBW.gif)
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: saintrunner on December 18, 2011, 06:55:45 pm: wow this looks really good!
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Post by: AzNg0d1030 on December 18, 2011, 09:17:29 pm: Dang, seems much better than the one TI gave :thumbsup:
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Post by: cyanophycean314 on December 18, 2011, 09:38:40 pm: I thought about making one, but this is far better than anything I could possibly create.
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Post by: willrandship on December 18, 2011, 10:52:24 pm: Wow, I like the crystal formation viewer. Really nice job on this one!

One more reason to upgrade to 3.0 when ndless comes out. :D
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Post by: Chockosta on December 20, 2011, 11:45:13 am: Really nice !
And I'm glad that Tiny3D is useful :)
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Post by: Adriweb on December 20, 2011, 11:54:12 am: "wirekey" at TI-Planet is starting to translate it in French, I believe.

Anyway, we've hosted it on TI-Planet also, citing ticalc.org as source since it was before you published it here.

congratz anyway :)

Nick :
I showed it to TI, and they really liked it (but when tested on the next version, it doesn't run without deleting the gc:setAlpha ... )
Can you update it to not use it anymore ? :)
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Nick on December 20, 2011, 12:18:48 pm: do i use setalpha? i'll have a look and if so, i'll change it.. it would be nice if TI would use it xp

oh and chockosta, really thanks for tiny3D, it gives an extra dimension (get it?, dimension xp) to chemistry :)

wow, and a translation would be soooo awesome, i don't know all those names and specs in french, so thanks, maybe i could change it to dutch too

--edit--
i found the alpha, and i will directly upload the version wihtout the it, it was like gc:setAlpha(255) xs just a rest of some other coding i deleted, but i must have missed this one
and it has changed, so can you also change it on tiplanet?
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Post by: Deep Toaster on December 20, 2011, 12:31:32 pm: Well... That's definitely better than TI's version :D Nice work on those info pages!
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Post by: Chockosta on December 20, 2011, 12:39:51 pm: Oh, by the way, I have a suggestion : it would be even better if the program displayed a little picture of the selected element.
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Post by: Nick on December 20, 2011, 12:40:28 pm: how do you mean? of the element? the atom or a real view?

i also thought to add the light emission spectrum of each element, but that qould take up too much place i think
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Deep Toaster on December 20, 2011, 01:07:47 pm: I have a suggestion: optional coloring, so users can toggle between coloring by metallic properties (what you have now), state at room temperature, electronegativity, and so on—like on http://www.ptable.com/ (click the Properties tab).
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Post by: Kjelddy on December 20, 2011, 01:09:42 pm: awsome job :P I saw the thread on TI-planet but that version was in french , sadly my french isn't that good that I can use it with chemistry :P
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Nick on December 20, 2011, 02:20:47 pm: I want to thank Mic for the translation to french, and if someone feels the need to translate it to another language, feel free to do it, than mail me the source and i'll add it to the package.. it would be nice to have it in like 20 languages xp (just kidding about that 20..5 is also nice xp )

so now we have an english, a dutch an a french version. They will soon be added to the archives ot omnimaga, ticalc and tibank (maybe tiplanet too?)
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: critor on December 20, 2011, 03:40:37 pm: Quote from: Nick on December 20, 2011, 02:20:47 pm
They will soon be added to the archives ot omnimaga, ticalc and tibank (maybe tiplanet too?)

Why not tiplanet?...
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Jim Bauwens on December 20, 2011, 03:45:43 pm: You most certainly should submit it to TI-Planet ;)

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Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Chockosta on December 20, 2011, 05:10:56 pm: Quote from: Nick on December 20, 2011, 12:40:28 pm
how do you mean? of the element? the atom or a real view?
I was thinking about something like that http://theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Posters/Poster3.2000.JPG (http://theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Posters/Poster3.2000.JPG)
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Post by: Nick on December 20, 2011, 05:20:23 pm: wow, on a calc xp but i could put them at the specs page, together with the spectrum :) good idea, but it will be a lot of work, and it'll make the file huge and slow to open, so i think this isn't the best option.. because such a table is to quickly look up a spec, and close it again directly (unless you want to learn it by heart xp) so it has to be fast to open and close..
for now it is only 14kb, but it will be abou 100 with all thos ti.images it think
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Post by: Chockosta on December 20, 2011, 05:26:01 pm: Yeah, you're right. This might not be a great idea.
Anyway, it's already much better that TI's version.
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Post by: renatose on December 20, 2011, 06:04:17 pm: I'll translate it to portuguese, maybe by tomorrow I can send it to you.
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Post by: renatose on December 21, 2011, 05:03:08 pm: new story same problem, there is no way to include characters like á, é, í, ç, ó, ... am I right?
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Nick on December 21, 2011, 05:04:53 pm: but you can do it, ask loulou 54, he did like /196/165 or so to print é, but ask him, i don't know how it works..
have you already translated it or will you start now?
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Deep Toaster on December 21, 2011, 05:13:50 pm: Quote from: Nick on December 21, 2011, 05:04:53 pm
but you can do it, ask loulou 54, he did like /196/165 or so to print é, but ask him, i don't know how it works..
have you already translated it or will you start now?
It should be \195\169. That's the UTF-8 (Unicode) representation of the é character.
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Adriweb on December 21, 2011, 05:32:11 pm: Here is for the accents :
http://wiki.inspired-lua.org/string.uchar (http://wiki.inspired-lua.org/string.uchar)

All right, here is the translation table, ready for you guys :
http://pastebin.com/JRV7fBrs (http://pastebin.com/JRV7fBrs)
(please correct any mistakes ;) )
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Nick on December 21, 2011, 05:36:39 pm: ow, it gets official :) really thanks adriweb and excale
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Post by: Adriweb on December 21, 2011, 05:38:10 pm: well everything else is 99% done, but the only thing that makes it work on computer view is to be at a minimum of 130% readibility. (the little slider thing)
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Post by: renatose on December 21, 2011, 05:53:33 pm: this is the better support they will ever give to this characters?
doing this all the time sucks...
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Adriweb on December 22, 2011, 07:57:14 am: No, pretty much every char/symbol without conversion works within the SDK, so you won't have to do anything by hand.

Right now, you have to do that because Luna doesn't support it ;)

Anyway, I think I have finished the new version (v2).
Main changes :
-Optimizations
-Dynamic Translations in 10 languages
-Works in the computer view in the software/doc player

(http://i.imgur.com/cueLR.jpg)
(Oui, les erreurs de traductions ont été corrigés, pas sur le screenshot, c'est tout :P)
(http://i.imgur.com/zqMT9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/aOVHl.jpg)

Uploading to TI-Planet soon :)
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Lionel Debroux on December 22, 2011, 08:09:48 am: Besides the automatic language detection, did you include a menu for selecting another language (a preference which should be saved and restored upon reopening the document), as I suggested ? :)
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Adriweb on December 22, 2011, 08:12:36 am: Quote from: Lionel Debroux on December 22, 2011, 08:09:48 am
Besides the automatic language detection, did you include a menu for selecting another language (a preference which should be saved and restored upon reopening the document), as I suggested ? :)

Not yet, this release is just focusing on optimizations and translations.
I'll add better native support for computer view and Manual language setting on the next release.
:-)
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Nick on December 22, 2011, 08:20:11 am: wonderful! thanks for that..
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Post by: Adriweb on December 22, 2011, 11:14:19 am: So, here's the news :

http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=118945#p118945 (http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=118945#p118945)

and the download link directly :

http://tiplanet.org/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=3840 (http://tiplanet.org/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=3840)

If you want, I can make a nice banner for this, like that one :
(http://i.imgur.com/t9Z2N.png)
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Nick on December 22, 2011, 11:17:01 am: yeah, do it :)
nice..

for the one on ticalc, you'll have to wait untill they update the database
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: critor on December 22, 2011, 11:17:28 am: Release time!

Here' the news:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8589

Or, if you prefer, here's the program directly:
http://tiplanet.org/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=3840
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Stefan Bauwens on December 22, 2011, 11:19:59 am: Quote from: adriweb on December 22, 2011, 11:14:19 am
So, here's the news :

http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=118945#p118945 (http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=118945#p118945)

and the download link directly :

http://tiplanet.org/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=3840 (http://tiplanet.org/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=3840)

If you want, I can make a nice banner for this, like that one :
(http://i.imgur.com/t9Z2N.png)
Quote from: critor on December 22, 2011, 11:17:28 am
Release time!

Here' the news:
http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8589

Or, if you prefer, here's the program directly:
http://tiplanet.org/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=3840
Both posts are the same? O.O
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Kjelddy on December 22, 2011, 11:22:13 am: they ninja'd each other :P
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Nick on December 22, 2011, 12:24:26 pm: ~~it seems i cant upload to ticalc anymore.. it continuously says "Failed to parse uploaded file!"~~

--edit--
Solved!
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Lionel Debroux on December 22, 2011, 01:00:32 pm: IIRC, "Failed to parse uploaded file!" can occur with files that are just too big, but I doubt that it's what happens for you.
Try communicating on EFNet #ti with tev or chronomex :)
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Adriweb on December 23, 2011, 07:25:07 am: I updated the archive yesterday on TI-Planet, fixing the full screen bug (computer view) and some translations mistakes :)
(thanks to WireKey for the help :D)
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Post by: AzNg0d1030 on December 27, 2011, 07:36:25 pm: Hoohoohoo awesome!
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Post by: renatose on January 02, 2012, 06:44:59 pm: Congratulations for the ticalc last new featuring your periodic table (http://www.ticalc.org/archives/news/articles/14/147/147778.html) Nick!
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Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 02, 2012, 07:23:35 pm: Congrats Nick :)
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Post by: epic7 on January 02, 2012, 07:25:23 pm: Wait... His Ticalc profile says that he doesn't program for lua! O.O
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Post by: parserp on January 02, 2012, 08:41:04 pm: lol his name really is nick :P
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Post by: Nick on January 03, 2012, 02:10:13 am: Thanks
yeah, my real name is Nick :) and on ticalc, there's not an option for lua yet..
and Adriweb has done all the translation (and a lot of optimization) work, but everyone seems to forget him :c
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: AzNg0d1030 on January 03, 2012, 04:49:59 pm: There should be. They even have archives for Lua and yet they don't have Lua as a choice for programming languages? Tsk tsk!

Nick, I felt like to make it even more professional, you should have made even more detailed and accurate decimal figures XD
The geometric shapes are amazing though, even though they lag slightly when one repeatedly clicks the middle button on touchpad (though I don't see why they would, I was for the heck of it) :P
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Post by: renatose on January 03, 2012, 05:51:00 pm: I'd like to review the portuguese translation: it got translated to brasilian portuguese instead of european portuguese, but once the nspire doesn't have different localizations for both countries (has only european portuguese) (and I prefer it in portuguese of Portugal) I think that it makes sense to be in portuguese of Portugal.
(google translate doesn't have distinction from both and does what he thinks that is best)

Just as additional curiosity there is no TI Brazil site in portuguese: it redirects to the latin america site (in spanish). That makes me think that Brazil may be dominated by casio calcs while TI dominates the rest of the world market (except for japan of course).
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 03, 2012, 05:53:56 pm: Quote from: epic7 on January 02, 2012, 07:25:23 pm
Wait... His Ticalc profile says that he doesn't program for lua! O.O
It's because the Ticalc.org profile settings page only allows you to choose between languages available since their last redesign in 1999 (or the few they added since then). You check checkboxes to choose which language you code for. I'm surprised TI-Nspire is even available as an option, considering the TI-83 Plus isn't even available.

Quote from: renatose on January 03, 2012, 05:51:00 pm
Just as additional curiosity there is no TI Brazil site in portuguese: it redirects to the latin america site (in spanish). That makes me think that Brazil may be dominated by casio calcs while TI dominates the rest of the world market (except for japan of course).
If I remember, Brazil is a third-world country, so very few people can afford a TI calculator at all. Casio calcs are much cheaper, so this probably explains it.
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Nick on January 03, 2012, 05:55:40 pm: well renatose, you ay certainly do that, i would even love it.. but you should ask adriweb for its latest source, and it's indeed kinda logic the european is used..

thanks in advance
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Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 03, 2012, 05:57:23 pm: Btw I didn't even know math/science-related programs were even allowed in Omnimaga downloads section ??? (not that it's bad, considering how great it is, but I remember rejecting any non-game/music related tools back when I was still admin so I guess this changed)
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Post by: Nick on January 03, 2012, 05:58:53 pm: oh, aren't they? i thought it would be a good addition, but if it's not allowed i'll have to remove it.. although it's the first thing i hear about it, and it's there for already a month
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Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 03, 2012, 06:01:03 pm: Nah I guess it's fine since they let this one it. They probably decided to allow notable math/science tools instead of only game/music dev tools, probably just not generic quadratic solver programs. Omnimaga just used to have a policy to keep the archives calc-game/music-related (hence why almost every upload there are programming utilities or actual games) :P
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: renatose on January 03, 2012, 06:07:21 pm: Quote from: DJ_O on January 03, 2012, 05:57:23 pm
Btw I didn't even know math/science-related programs were even allowed in Omnimaga downloads section ??? (not that it's bad, considering how great it is, but I remember rejecting any non-game/music related tools back when I was still admin so I guess this changed)
sorry, but I think that it didn't make any sense... we should all support the community in every possible way, that's the way to go. just an opinion... peace
there should be added categories for that in the downloads section (math/science-related calc programs) after all that's what the calcs were made to...
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Kjelddy on January 16, 2012, 05:59:12 pm: Nick you should check the crystal structure of several atoms because it seems that they are not correct for instance gold isn't cubic , body centered but cubic face centered , there were some more that weren't correct.
Title: Re: Periodic table
Post by: Nick on January 18, 2012, 02:24:11 am: really? can you report all those you think aren't correct, that might be very useful, thanks