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Calculator Community => Other Calculators => Topic started by: mrmprog on November 24, 2011, 06:55:10 pm
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I am debating between a prizm and an 89 titanium. Tell me everything you know about them >:D I know that 89 basic is pretty nice, but the pure awesomeness of a color calc may beat it out. I want to have good math capabilities (CAS?), but also be able to code good stuff oncalc.
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Well, if a CAS is necessary for you, then go with a 89T, since the Prizm lacks one. Of course remember that the Prizm is more popular than the 89T, though, although much less than the Nspire or the 84+ series.
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I think an 89 is probably most useful, but I really like the prizm too. Can anyone tell me about prizm basic?
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Isn't there some programs for Casio that provide CAS in a way?
Prizm basic is quite similar to older Casio basic language such as FX-9860 and the CFX-9850/9750 etc series.
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Not yet Jonius. It might take a while before one arrives actually.
mrmprog It's kinda nice, but drawing commands are very slow. You have cool chars to use on the home screen, though.
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True drawing is handled much differently in Casio than TI. Circles would be one of the most annoying taking up to 5 seconds or more to draw a 1cm diameter circle.
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Well, if you need a CAS, the Prizm won't do the job, so the 89T is the only choice :)
It has good on-calc programming, not just in TI-BASIC:
* there's NewProg, and several other implementations of high-level languages faster than TI-BASIC;
* there's also C and 68000 ASM, with GTC, but of course, for pure on-calc programming, you'd be missing out the wide GCC4TI documentation, which doesn't fit on the calculator (or at least, would take such a heavy toll on free space).
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Otherwise you could eventually buy both. :D
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Well:
TI-89:
160x100 B&W screen
Has CAS
Supports: BASIC, C, ASM, Newprog
BASIC is pretty fast and has a lot of options
2.7 MB Flash, 256 KB RAM USB
Large program library, not really updated by TI anymore. :(
Must use linking software to send files.
Prizm
Has 384×216 back lit Color Display with over 65,000 colors
No CAS
Supports: BASIC, C, ASM
BASIC is similar to older Casio models, but drawing commands are slow.
USB 2.0 port, 16 MB of flash memory
Smaller program library, newer, updated by Casio.
Recognized as mass storage device by PC.
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Art_of_Camelot: Are you talking about the ti-89 or ti-89 titanium?
Because I think the non titanium has less flash memory, but maybe I'm mistaken.
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I was reffering to the Titanium, since that was what he was asking about. You are correct though. My regular TI-89 has much less than that, but a better display. :D
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Unless you have one of the oldest regular 89 calculators (HW1, produced 1998 and early 1999), there's no difference between the screen of a regular 89 (most of them are HW2, the newer hardware revision) and a 89 Titanium (HW3 or HW4).
And as far as the screen is concerned, the difference between HW1 and HW2 is not so much a difference in quality, as a difference in the way to program the display controller. It's much easier to make grayscale, especially 7/8 levels, on HW1 than on HW2/3/4.
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/me does own a HW1 calc. :D
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what does HW stands for?
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Hardware :)
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ah. :D
also, wasn't there something about different version of CAS stuff?
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If the Prizm'll get an F-Zero, Prizm > 89...
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Given the more powerful processor, a F-Zero would be easier to make on the Prizm than it is on the TI-68k family...
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So have you decided yet?
Because actually I think you would be happy with both, just that they're both different in different ways. Ofcourse if CAS is REALLY important you better go for the 89 first(and eventually buy a prizm later?)
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Thanks for all the info guys. I think that the 89 is better for the coding I want to do, but the prizm seems really fun. Is there a chance that drawing commands will be faster in a later update? Also, how much can I get a prizm for? I saw one at walmart for only $97.99 a while back.
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I guess, but I'm not certain, that maybe some people could make something like another programming language for the Prizm to use oncalc where drawing commands normally would go faster.
Right now, I don't really know. Also I'm not good at those prices. I bought all my calcs second hand. My second 89(non titanium) I only bough for 26 euro(sending included) and it was in perfect quality. Best deal ever. ;)
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Just a quick comment, if you want a color screen and a CAS, the Nspire CX is not that bad. It is very limited in programming, which is a major drawback, but it does provide both of the above options! :)
I would recommend an 89 personally! ;)
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Not sure what the current price is. When I bought mine I *think* it was a bit cheaper than an 84+ SE. $97 sounds pretty cheap (similarly priced to a TI-83+ where I live).
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Prizm... HAZ... KOLOR!!! >:D
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Prizm... HAZ... KOLOR!!! >:D
Exactly how I feel. I think the 89 is a better choice, but:
1) I have never owned a casio calc
2) This is a new platform
3) Other languages (than basic)
4) COLOR!
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Prizm... HAZ... KOLOR!!! >:D
Exactly how I feel. I think the 89 is a better choice, but:
1) I have never owned a casio calc
2) This is a new platform
3) Other languages (than basic)
4) COLOR!
Other languages than basic? If you mean C, you can have that on the 89 too ;) (and newprog aswell, which is for on calc use).
Can't you lend one of a friend or something to try it out for a few days(or a 89)?
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Just to note, don't forget pure assembly ;)
Without the ability to run native programs, you could never have C (which is native).
So in theory, it would be possible to have a whole range of other Languages on the Prizm and the TI-89.
Someone just need to make a compiler for them :)
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The TI-89T is a more eco-friendly device precisely because it doesn't have a color screen. It will get much better battery life than anything with a color screen can get. The only graphing calculator that can beat the TI-89T in the battery life category is the TI-84+/SE (which gets about double the battery life).
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The TI-89T is a more eco-friendly device precisely because it doesn't have a color screen. It will get much better battery life than anything with a color screen can get. The only graphing calculator that can beat the TI-89T in the battery life category is the TI-84+/SE (which gets about double the battery life).
My Prizm seems to have a battery life that's at least as good as my TI-84+SE (at least when both use NiMH batteries, but even the non-rechargeable batteries that were included with the Prizm seemed to last a few months of active use). I haven't compared it with an 89T, however.