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Title: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 10, 2010, 12:35:07 am
Every single one of my projects is on hold indefinitely.  You all have my parents to thank.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Hot_Dog on December 10, 2010, 12:36:53 am
Every single one of my projects is on hold indefinitely.  You all have my parents to thank.

Sorry about that :(
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 10, 2010, 01:51:30 am
Sorry to hear. :/ Did they take your calc away? /me hopes it's nothing related to the Server thread...
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: jnesselr on December 10, 2010, 06:15:00 am
Well. That's sad. Don't really know what to say here. What did they do?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 10, 2010, 08:16:02 am
I can't be here long, I apologize that I can't elaborate more. They took my calc and told me I can never have it back. I'll buy my own eventually.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: jnesselr on December 10, 2010, 08:24:34 am
I can't be here long, I apologize that I can't elaborate more. They took my calc and told me I can never have it back. I'll buy my own eventually.
That's not good at all. Well, instead of counting the days till kos, let's count the days till SirCmpwn leaves the house. Good luck!
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 10, 2010, 08:40:11 am
Okay, here's the basic idea:
While testing KOS on hardware, my calculator was incapable of doing math.  Duh.
My parent's didn't like this, and have told me that I cannot do anything on my calculator that I couldn't do when I first pulled it out of the box, and I'm not allowed to connect it to a computer.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: jnesselr on December 10, 2010, 09:04:20 am
Oh my, that's not good at all.  Well, you need to have KOS perform math functions.  In the mean time, need your favorite person (haha) to help debug and such? Real calc testing, I mean.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 10, 2010, 09:09:20 am
I take it this also means you are no longer allowed to work on projects on the computer as well, right? If you can, I would back them up somewhere in case they delete them.

Also, your parents are really jerks. It's a good thing they don't have any popular site/blog/forum or even Facebook that we know of, because I think they would often be the target of trolling, if not less legal things involving 4chan, sometimes...
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: shmibs on December 10, 2010, 09:12:02 am
did they buy this for you? dittoes for being willing to test stuff(and i'm sure that everyone else on here would feel the same), but regardless it's a huge set-back...

is this until may?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Munchor on December 10, 2010, 10:17:29 am
Every single one of my projects is on hold indefinitely.  You all have my parents to thank.

Oh my god this is terrible!!

Okay, here's the basic idea:
While testing KOS on hardware, my calculator was incapable of doing math.  Duh.
My parent's didn't like this, and have told me that I cannot do anything on my calculator that I couldn't do when I first pulled it out of the box, and I'm not allowed to connect it to a computer.

This is even more terrible!

Quote
No KOS!

This is so sad :(

When I saw the title I thought it was a topic to post all your projects since you have a few.


I'm so sorry :(
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Eeems on December 10, 2010, 11:13:20 am
Wow that sucks...can't wait till you get out of there...:(
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: yunhua98 on December 10, 2010, 11:37:58 am
I'm really sorry.  Maybe you can use WabbitDS or something similar?  Also, do you have computer backups of your projects?  D:

I hope you can get a calc soon.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Munchor on December 10, 2010, 11:39:03 am
I'm really sorry.  Maybe you can use WabbitDS or something similar?  Also, do you have computer backups of your projects?  D:

I hope you can get a calc soon.

If my calculator crashed too, my parents would forbid it to me too :(
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: JustCause on December 10, 2010, 12:38:20 pm
Okay, here's the basic idea:
While testing KOS on hardware, my calculator was incapable of doing math.  Duh.
My parent's didn't like this, and have told me that I cannot do anything on my calculator that I couldn't do when I first pulled it out of the box, and I'm not allowed to connect it to a computer.
This is even more terrible!
AAAAH! Congratulations, you and I are in the same crappy boat! :( :( :(
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Deep Toaster on December 10, 2010, 02:19:35 pm
Wow, that really sucks D:

Hope you still have all your projects, though.

Would they return it to you if you promised to use the TI-OS?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Munchor on December 10, 2010, 02:21:38 pm
Wow, that really sucks D:

Hope you still have all your projects, though.

Would they return it to you if you promised to use the TI-OS?

That would be good, yes. I mean, probably he already said that :(
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Hot_Dog on December 10, 2010, 02:22:20 pm
We need to have some kind of "I'm so sorry this has happened" point system. SirCpwn would have +40 for 40 people feeling upset that this has happened to him
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Munchor on December 10, 2010, 02:22:56 pm
His parents wouldn't really believe that I think :S
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Builderboy on December 10, 2010, 02:23:04 pm
Arg this is horrible :( They really are jerks >:(
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: aeTIos on December 10, 2010, 02:25:13 pm
My parents hold my calc all days, i only get it for using at school and at home for maths D:

if i dont have maths, they give me a 28-year old calc that takes 3 seconds to calculate (http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/a/1/0/a10c7f2aa138b1565920d17c22062a35.png)
That sucks
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Munchor on December 10, 2010, 02:26:58 pm
My parents hold my calc all days, i only get it for using at school and at home for maths D:

My parents warned me they could do that, so for a week I left the calculator in the living room all the time and they probably realized he doesn't really care about it :D
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: aeTIos on December 10, 2010, 02:34:34 pm
haha. so, most of us have parents that:
-dont like their children program their calc
-warn their children that they get their calc from them if they dont stop programming (but they cant)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Munchor on December 10, 2010, 02:35:21 pm
haha. so, most of us have parents that:
-dont like their children program their calc
-warn their children that they get their calc from them if they dont stop programming (but they cant)

However, my uncle, who is a maths teachers convinces my parents to let me program :D
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: aeTIos on December 10, 2010, 02:36:06 pm
wow you have a nice uncle
be happy with him!!!!
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Munchor on December 10, 2010, 02:36:49 pm
wow you have a nice uncle
be happy with him!!!!

He encourages me to program Java, but I hate Java :(
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: AngelFish on December 10, 2010, 02:40:40 pm
My parent's didn't like this, and have told me that I cannot do anything on my calculator that I couldn't do when I first pulled it out of the box, and I'm not allowed to connect it to a computer.

I know parents aren't known for their logic, but isn't Assembly programming a native feature of TI-OS? There is the AsmPrgm token, after all.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: aeTIos on December 10, 2010, 02:43:49 pm
yes, assembly programming is a native feature of the 83+ and 68k family

But I think they mean Sir has to reset his calcs memory, or am i missing the point??
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: AngelFish on December 10, 2010, 02:47:57 pm
wow you have a nice uncle
be happy with him!!!!

He encourages me to program Java, but I hate Java :(

Here's a video for you, Scout:

Java 4-ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl1f1-Da0OI&feature=related)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: holmes221b on December 10, 2010, 02:49:06 pm
haha. so, most of us have parents that:
-dont like their children program their calc
-warn their children that they get their calc from them if they dont stop programming (but they cant)
I must be lucky--the only restriction on programming anything (calcs, computers, etc.) that my parents have ever given me is "Don't do anything illegal, and leave all government agencies alone."

edit: something ate the quote when I originally posted this...
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: aeTIos on December 10, 2010, 02:51:23 pm
holmes, you are veryvery very lucky and i lost the game
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Munchor on December 10, 2010, 02:52:55 pm
haha. so, most of us have parents that:
-dont like their children program their calc
-warn their children that they get their calc from them if they dont stop programming (but they cant)
I must be lucky--the only restriction on programming anything (calcs, computers, etc.) that my parents have ever given me is "Don't do anything illegal, and leave all government agencies alone."

edit: something ate the quote when I originally posted this...

hahahahahahah mine actually tell me to download illegal stuff instead of buying, but I disagree.

wow you have a nice uncle
be happy with him!!!!

He encourages me to program Java, but I hate Java :(

Here's a video for you, Scout:

Java 4-ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl1f1-Da0OI&feature=related)

Also, this video is really good.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: jnesselr on December 10, 2010, 04:11:48 pm
Well, I'm sure he also told them that he could revert in like 1 Minute.  I'm sure they didn't listen. And I'm sure if KOS supported math, they still wouldn't allow it.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Munchor on December 10, 2010, 04:13:04 pm
Well, I'm sure he also told them that he could revert in like 1 Minute.  I'm sure they didn't listen. And I'm sure if KOS supported math, they still wouldn't allow it.

Which is very bad. He can work on tiDE for now, though. Look on the bright side??
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: jnesselr on December 10, 2010, 04:14:16 pm
Well, I'm sure he also told them that he could revert in like 1 Minute.  I'm sure they didn't listen. And I'm sure if KOS supported math, they still wouldn't allow it.

Which is very bad. He can work on tiDE for now, though. Look on the bright side??
Nope. From what I know of SirCmpwn's parents, AFAIK they won't let him program anything calculator related.  Not sure why.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: Munchor on December 10, 2010, 04:14:47 pm
Well, I'm sure he also told them that he could revert in like 1 Minute.  I'm sure they didn't listen. And I'm sure if KOS supported math, they still wouldn't allow it.

Which is very bad. He can work on tiDE for now, though. Look on the bright side??
Nope. From what I know of SirCmpwn's parents, AFAIK they won't let him program anything calculator related.  Not sure why.

How bad.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: matthias1992 on December 10, 2010, 04:29:50 pm
wow I guess I am lucky with my parents. They could not care less about what I do. of course they would not like it if they figured I was attacking governmental institutions (which I did not do btw) but as long as there are no cops on our doorstep I can do what I want. only restriction is time. If I go behind the PC for 3+ hours they'll eventually kick me off...

Anyway, altough I agree that it is not nice of sir's parents to do this it is not very nice either of other people here saying his parents are jerks. I don't know how sir's family situation is but I do assume he loves his parents and for others to call them jerks without even knowing them can be painfull. I am not making a judgement but merely showing my disaproval of calling his parents jerks, even if he himself feels that way.

I hope you'll be back on it soon. You do have all files on google code or something don't you?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 10, 2010, 04:30:05 pm
Also, your parents are really jerks. It's a good thing they don't have any popular site/blog/forum or even Facebook that we know of, because I think they would often be the target of trolling, if not less legal things involving 4chan, sometimes...
Spoiler For Spoiler:
http://www.davidyack.com (http://www.davidyack.com)
http://www.julieyack.com (http://www.julieyack.com)

Also, I still have my calc, but I can't connect it to the computer.  All of my major projects are assembly at the moment, and can't be worked on.  tiDE is on my flash drive, along with SharpDevelop 4.0 Beta and an SVN tool, so I can still work on that slowly.  I also keep backups *everywhere.*  When I eventually become ungrounded, I will still have projects, even if they delete the local versions.  I updated all my backups today, and distrubuted copies of all my projects throughout friends at school.  I'm also having a friend of mine build me an Ubuntu flash drive with TiLP, Wine, and Mono so I can try to work on KnightOS.
I managed to get usb8x+msd8x back on my calculator before they grounded me, so I can still transfer stuff if it's emailed to me.  So please email me anything you think I'd like :)  Also, I'm getting my proxy stuff fired up again so that I can still access Omnimaga and Cemetech if I'm blocked from those.  Geekboy's proxies are still up, I think, and I have other resources as well.
This is not my first go around with my parents.  I'm prepared for this kind of thing.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 10, 2010, 04:36:43 pm
I use Silverlight.  I love Silverlight.  This is something I'm working on: silverlinux.sourceforge.net (http://silverlinux.sourceforge.net)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: jnesselr on December 10, 2010, 04:38:17 pm
<Overly-dramatic>Battle Stations men! Prepare the cannons!</Overly-dramatic>

Let's see, do you have any wifi-usb adaptors? You have that mini-A to A female cable, right? We could work something out.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 10, 2010, 04:40:29 pm
I don't have a wifi adapter.  But trust me, I will not be abandoning the community during these tough times.  I will figure it out, you'll just have to bear with me as my updates will be slow, and I won't be able to help out the tiDE team as much.  But I can access Codeplex SVN from school, so that is helpful.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 10, 2010, 04:41:39 pm
I don't have a wifi adapter.  But trust me, I will not be abandoning the community during these tough times.  I will figure it out, you'll just have to bear with me as my updates will be slow, and I won't be able to help out the tiDE team as much.  But I can access Codeplex SVN from school, so that is helpful.

You are writing from phone aren't you? That's really bad.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 10, 2010, 04:42:47 pm
No, I'm on a computer atm.  They can't keep me locked out while they aren't home ;)
All my posts from a phone have a phone icon in the upper left corner.  http://ourl.ca/8244/151541 (http://ourl.ca/8244/151541)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 10, 2010, 04:52:53 pm
Well good luck SirCmpwn! I hope you get ungrounded eventually.
haha. so, most of us have parents that:
-dont like their children program their calc
-warn their children that they get their calc from them if they dont stop programming (but they cant)
I must be lucky--the only restriction on programming anything (calcs, computers, etc.) that my parents have ever given me is "Don't do anything illegal, and leave all government agencies alone."

edit: something ate the quote when I originally posted this...
O.O I LOL'D at their quote XD. But at least I'm glad some people have parents that don't mind unless they got bad grades. In my case, they only minded if I spent like 10h a day on calc programming for too long and did not vary my activities enough. I got my calc taken away twice for that, during about 4 days. That time where my internet was taken down because I spent too much time online was a bit uncalled for, though. My mom cancelled my internet plan completely until I move out. This meant 5 months with no internet at home.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Builderboy on December 10, 2010, 04:54:24 pm
I'm lucky in that my parents still are mostly unaware of how proficient i am in calculator programming, as i lead a quite secretive life in it :P Well i'm glad you took every precaution good Sir and im glad you can still visit Omnimaga and that you haven't lost your projects :)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 10, 2010, 05:00:32 pm
I'm lucky in that my parents still are mostly unaware of how proficient i am in calculator programming, as i lead a quite secretive life in it :P Well i'm glad you took every precaution good Sir and im glad you can still visit Omnimaga and that you haven't lost your projects :)

I do programming a bit underground too, but probably couldn't hide it if I was as good as you :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 10, 2010, 05:32:35 pm
Can anybody please try to visit this:
Spoiler For Spoiler:
www.julieyack.com
see if my strategy worked...

What did you do???

Well, we could comment in her posts saying "GIVE YOUR SON HIS CALC!"
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 10, 2010, 05:34:22 pm
Spoiler For Spoiler:
Denial of service
I'll back it off immediately if requested

But what did you do?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Builderboy on December 10, 2010, 05:40:35 pm
I can see it and if you haven't already please immediately stop this.  Sure you can be mad at Sir's parents but attacking them and their websites is not only wrong but illegal.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: matthias1992 on December 10, 2010, 05:41:50 pm
stopped.

I can see your point builderboy but I am taking full personal responsibility for this. Anyway I stopped already because I said I would if I were asked to do so and because it did not work.

edit:btw I am not mad but obviously most people here are that's why I thought I'd take the initiative. furthermore because you are in no way responsible for my actions (which does not mean you may not judge them)

Sorry if anyone found my actions offensive.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 10, 2010, 05:54:29 pm
Woah!
I thought that spamming a couple comments would be one thing, but this is illegal *and* connected to me.
Whatever you do, I would really rather you not connect yourself to me in any way on their websites.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: turiqwalrus on December 10, 2010, 05:58:21 pm
wow. this must really suck for you. My parents are actually supportive of my programming. They think it's educational
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 10, 2010, 06:15:07 pm
Woah!
I thought that spamming a couple comments would be one thing, but this is illegal *and* connected to me.
Whatever you do, I would really rather you not connect yourself to me in any way on their websites.
To be honest, today at work, Matthias1992's idea came into my head  for a while. I didn't do it, though, because it's illegal. Plus, that barely do anything, because it only works when several people are doing it at once, anyway. Simple trolling would do, but even then, I think Sir's parents would do the connection and I am certain they may even accuse Sir of having started something if there was a suddent increase in spam or trolls in their comments.

Another thing is that no matter what happens, it's just a blog, it seems, so it wouldn't achieve much. Maybe they get like 12 visits a day :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 10, 2010, 06:27:45 pm
I parent took my TI-84+ SE away from me(they saw me testing YEONG RPG) but they don't know that I hae another one  >:D
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 10, 2010, 06:32:04 pm
Back then, my mom was fine if I had two calcs (I bought a 83+SE even if I already had a 83+) because the latter was for backup purposes (I had no computer link cable and no money to buy a computer so I used 6 months of money saving to get a new calc (and a link cable). I bought the 83+SE in response to the Illusiat 2002 incident (to prevent anything like that from happening again). Several years later I bought a 89T but I don't know if my mom knew. I bought all my 17 other calcs after moving out.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Binder News on December 10, 2010, 06:45:02 pm
Wow. I tell my parents of pretty much everything I do, and they are ok with it.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Juju on December 10, 2010, 06:54:25 pm
Well, I think my mom knew, back when I was at high school, that I was the calculator guy at school, the one always playing with a calculator or stuff like that, but she seemed to not care about whether I have my calc or not...
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: meishe91 on December 10, 2010, 07:19:52 pm
I'm sorry to hear about this :( This is very unfortunate. I hope either things get solved and let go early or just that the punishment isn't as bad as it can be. You know we are all here for support if ya need anything :D

I'm pretty much in the boat as people with parents who don't really care that much. As long as I'm not doing anything bad, and the like, they could really care less.

Also, your parents are really jerks. It's a good thing they don't have any popular site/blog/forum or even Facebook that we know of, because I think they would often be the target of trolling, if not less legal things involving 4chan, sometimes...
Spoiler For Spoiler:
http://www.davidyack.com (http://www.davidyack.com)
http://www.julieyack.com (http://www.julieyack.com)

Also, I still have my calc, but I can't connect it to the computer.  All of my major projects are assembly at the moment, and can't be worked on.  tiDE is on my flash drive, along with SharpDevelop 4.0 Beta and an SVN tool, so I can still work on that slowly.  I also keep backups *everywhere.*  When I eventually become ungrounded, I will still have projects, even if they delete the local versions.  I updated all my backups today, and distrubuted copies of all my projects throughout friends at school.  I'm also having a friend of mine build me an Ubuntu flash drive with TiLP, Wine, and Mono so I can try to work on KnightOS.
I managed to get usb8x+msd8x back on my calculator before they grounded me, so I can still transfer stuff if it's emailed to me.  So please email me anything you think I'd like :)  Also, I'm getting my proxy stuff fired up again so that I can still access Omnimaga and Cemetech if I'm blocked from those.  Geekboy's proxies are still up, I think, and I have other resources as well.
This is not my first go around with my parents.  I'm prepared for this kind of thing.

This post reminded me of Burt from the Tremors movie series :P (As in like always prepared for what could happen.)

Well in the end I hope everything get's worked out and I wish you luck on your projects that are still continuable and such :)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: c.sprinkle on December 10, 2010, 07:22:21 pm
Well, it does seem like parents are not always the most accommodating to 1337 programmers like SirCmpwn.
I am sorry, though. I thought KnightOS etc. was looking nice.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: TIfanx1999 on December 10, 2010, 07:59:54 pm
Sir, you're parents sure are interesting folks (to say the least). I'm sure things will get rolling again eventually though. =)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: guy6020665 on December 10, 2010, 08:13:39 pm
Hmmmmm... I took a look at those websites, your parents seem to be pretty established in programming and nerd-dom themselves (or at least they say they are). I can't understand why they wouldn't want you programming. Any ideas why?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 10, 2010, 08:26:58 pm
c.sprinkle, I hope it still is looking nice. It isn't cancelled, you know.  I don't think the community would ever forgive me for cancelling KnightOS. :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: willrandship on December 10, 2010, 10:40:43 pm
No kidding :P

My parents are really easy on me, mainly because I'm the "good" son. One of my brothers is just plain crazy (literally, and not the funny kind :() and most of my childhood pain came from him. fortunately, my teenage years have remained fairly unaffected since he has either been in rehab (which was very unhelpful. Now he's smart and crazy, instead of stupid and crazy. Now I actually have some fears for the city of Logan) or now, living in another city :D

On calc stuff, my parents were mainly unhappy that I was causing others' grades to suffer :P shouldn't have taken that $5 to put games on that guy's calc. Now everybody begs me for them.

Are you the oldest child, Sir? it sounds like it, just because the more kids parents have, the more understanding they tend to be (except in certain cases, like where the older siblings were practically drug lords)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: ztrumpet on December 10, 2010, 10:54:05 pm
No, not again. D=

Sir, I'm reminded of your Mr. Coding Knight days.  I hope this does not escalate to those levels.

I really can't say anything mean about your parents - anything I say will not help your cause any, especially if your parents read it.  Furthermore, I wish that you and your parents could just get along.  I'm sure you've asked this, but we've never gotten an answer on Omni: Why do you parents discourage calc development?  If you can answer this, I'm fairly certain that everyone at Omni will be able to see your situation more clearly.

Stay strong, and try not to fight with them too much.

P.S.  I can't wait for KOS. :D
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 10, 2010, 10:56:36 pm
It's in here (http://cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4654&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=80).  Look for a really long post.  I am the oldest child.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: willrandship on December 10, 2010, 11:01:32 pm
Ah, yes, I remember that post. Quite a sad story, actually. Honestly, I currently feel like I shouldn't do anything, at risk of making you look worse. If you have suggestions I'd be happy to help, but probably the best thing for me to do is stay out of it for now.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: AngelFish on December 10, 2010, 11:04:59 pm
That sucks, although I laughed at Qazz's comment.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: ztrumpet on December 10, 2010, 11:06:15 pm
Poor Sir. :(  I'm sorry it's gotten to this. :(
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: guy6020665 on December 10, 2010, 11:14:58 pm
Wow, it almost sounds like where I'm headed. My parents want me to be as perfect as possible, anything they don't like about what I do, they forbid it. I've tried reasonable conversations too, but they never consider what I say, for the most part these conversations end up being shouting matches, most of them ending with them unable to give a reasonable response "We are your parents, you HAVE to do what we say. This is coming from the people that say "you always have a choice." What kind of Bullshit is that? Now when they say "would you like to...." or "Do you want to...." the only reply that their happy with is something along the lines of "your wish is my command." kind of thing, if I reply with the obvious truth "Don't bother asking because no matter what I say you'll go ahead and make me do whatever you want anyways." they get pissed and yell at me. I've been trying to find ways to cope with my home situation by finding things to do to take my mind off of it, but each time they seem to be purposely attempting to break down anyway I have of coping. Games:Banned, TV:Banned, Computer(for personal use):Banned, Free Will:Banned, i wouldn't be surprised if soon I am banned from playing tennis too. The one thing I've found that my parents can't affect, is one of my close friends who is currently planning on dropping out of the IB program and transferring to another school because of her grades. I know that she can do better, but when I tried to help motivate her, she just lashed back and told me I was a hypocrite because I never do my math homework. She has refused to talk to me again until January 29. Slowly all my methods of coping are being destroyed, and the new ones that I find are less and less effective. I've lost the reason that I had to do well, I've even forgotten that reason now.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: AngelFish on December 10, 2010, 11:20:28 pm
My parents tried to do that when I was younger, but they quickly realized that I'm one of the most stubborn people on the planet (my longest argument with someone lasted 23 hours before they gave up) and they weren't always around. If I didn't care about grades or something, nothing they were going to do would change that. And believe me, they tried everything from stern talks, to psychiatrists (to figure out why I was an oddball who didn't care about grades), to threatening me with boot camp (which almost worked).

The psychiatrists were the most fun, because you could lead them all over and they'd read a whole bunch of stuff into it  ;D

Anyway, I hope you can resolve it Sir.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: _player1537 on December 11, 2010, 12:19:58 am
Wow, that sucks SIr (I missed this thread), same for you Guy.  My parents have always been supportive of my ability to program stuff ("OMG, YOU CAN PROGRAM!")  My mom has only taken my calc away once or twice, once was when I was up at 12ish working on some project, and another was when I first got it I think.  I hope things get better for you SIr and Guy, good luck!
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 11, 2010, 12:27:42 am
Indeed, I wish some parents had more compassion. I hate the mentality of parents where they do not let kids pursue what goal they want even if the goals are great. Some parents still live in the 1950s, where, as kid, you were forced to major in what your parents decided and even forced to marry with who they want.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 11, 2010, 12:28:22 am
Thank you all for the support.  It isn't as bad now as it was when I wrote that post, though.  I'm just not allowed to use my TI-84+ for anything other than math, and my parents are a lot more watchful of me on the computer (which I spend much more time on than they want me to).  I'll buy my own 84+ soon, which they can't influence.  I also have a laptop I bought myself.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 11, 2010, 12:33:41 am
I hope they don't use the excuse that you live in their property and they can dictate everything, though, if you buy a calc. I worry that they might still take it away with that excuse X.x, even if you decided to pay a rent and the Internet bill. I mean, when my mom thought I spent too much time online, she cancelled my internet plan even though I paid half of it and did not allow me to get it back even if I decided to pay all of it. I even paid a small rent every month and still saw my internet access cancelled.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 11, 2010, 12:38:41 am
I graduate in May, and I plan on moving out.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 11, 2010, 12:44:52 am
Yeah but if you get your calc before may, they could still take it away before you move out, right? :P

Anyway I hope things goes well for moving out, from finding a new job to a decent appartment.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 11, 2010, 12:51:07 am
I will forcefully take things I own on my way out if need be.  They can't just steal my things.  I buy things with legitimately earned money, and keep records of each paycheck to prove it.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 11, 2010, 12:53:47 am
I wonder... if they take away something you bought with your money, wouldn't that be indeed theft? Theft is illegal and thus, you could call the cops, right?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: AngelFish on December 11, 2010, 12:59:24 am
In the US, you can't call the cops on your parents [while you're underage] unless they've done something to physically harm you. Basically, most of the prevailing law here takes the position that if there are no permanent marks, there's not much that needs to be done. Even clear cases of emotional abuse are very difficult to prosecute here.

Except in the case of sexual abuse, where it is altogether too easy to prosecute people. I remember hearing a story* of a couple getting a divorce where they both wanted to take their daughter. The mother had the bright idea of accusing the father of sexually abusing the daughter. The ONLY reason the man didn't immediately go to jail was because he had documentation that he had been on a business trip for the entire period during which the sexual abuse was supposed to have occurred and couldn't possibly have abused the daughter. She still got the girl, though.

*I've never bothered to source it, so take it for what it's worth.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 11, 2010, 01:03:34 am
Ah, right, that sucks. :/ I guess he could just forcefully take the calc back or something.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 07:35:48 am
In the US, you can't call the cops on your parents [while you're underage] unless they've done something to physically harm you. Basically, most of the prevailing law here takes the position that if there are no permanent marks, there's not much that needs to be done. Even clear cases of emotional abuse are very difficult to prosecute here.

Except in the case of sexual abuse, where it is altogether too easy to prosecute people. I remember hearing a story* of a couple getting a divorce where they both wanted to take their daughter. The mother had the bright idea of accusing the father of sexually abusing the daughter. The ONLY reason the man didn't immediately go to jail was because he had documentation that he had been on a business trip for the entire period during which the sexual abuse was supposed to have occurred and couldn't possibly have abused the daughter. She still got the girl, though.

*I've never bothered to source it, so take it for what it's worth.

In portugal, if a children blames anything whatsoever, he'll get parent-less in a few days. Maybe in the US they understand that parents need to be strict for the society to be a good one. Here they don't, they give the children too much and when they're adult they won't know what 'difficulties in life' are :S
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: fb39ca4 on December 11, 2010, 09:54:28 am
I'm sorry to hear about this, SirCmpwn. How can your parents be so unsupportive of you programming, when they themselves are programmers ??? I read your post on cemetech. Yes, watching porn was a bad idea, and they did have a right to punish you, but it going on for six years because of that one thing is just crazy. I give you my best wishes in moving out on your own, and someday being on speaking terms with your parents again.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: holmes221b on December 11, 2010, 11:33:14 am
In the US, you can't call the cops on your parents [while you're underage] unless they've done something to physically harm you. Basically, most of the prevailing law here takes the position that if there are no permanent marks, there's not much that needs to be done.
If Sir's parents were to take away a calculator bought entirely with his own, legitimately earned money, that's petty larceny (presuming the price of the calc was under whatever the specified amount for grand larceny in his state's criminal codes), and Sir could press charges against his parents for stealing the calculator. Since Sir is carefully documenting his paychecks, they could prove in a court of law that his parents have no claim to possession of the calculator.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 11:34:32 am
In the US, you can't call the cops on your parents [while you're underage] unless they've done something to physically harm you. Basically, most of the prevailing law here takes the position that if there are no permanent marks, there's not much that needs to be done.
If Sir's parents were to take away a calculator bought entirely with his own, legitimately earned money, that's petty larceny (presuming the price of the calc was under whatever the specified amount for grand larceny in his state's criminal codes), and Sir could press charges against his parents for stealing the calculator. Since Sir is carefully documenting his paychecks, they could prove in a court of law that his parents have no claim to possession of the calculator.

Yes, but why would he go that far? If he did that, his parents would be even stricter to him!
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 11, 2010, 11:36:22 am
Maybe ask your parents for a 2nd chance of computer usage?
Most parents will accept it if you ask them sincerely.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 11:38:46 am
Maybe ask your parents for a 2nd chance of computer usage?
Most parents will accept it if you ask them sincerely.

Maybe we kidnap Sir?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 11, 2010, 11:41:29 am
The plan:
1. Call Sir's parents and tell them that their program has a serious error and boss want to see them
2. Get Sir(With his computer and calc)
3. Bring him to Scout's House (Assuming that his parents are nice)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: holmes221b on December 11, 2010, 11:41:53 am
If Sir's parents were to take away a calculator bought entirely with his own, legitimately earned money, that's petty larceny (presuming the price of the calc was under whatever the specified amount for grand larceny in his state's criminal codes), and Sir could press charges against his parents for stealing the calculator. Since Sir is carefully documenting his paychecks, they could prove in a court of law that his parents have no claim to possession of the calculator.
Yes, but why would he go that far? If he did that, his parents would be even stricter to him!
I'm not saying that he should do that, Scout. I'm just saying that if he does buy a new calc between now and when he moves out in May, and his parents take it away from him, he does have the option of calling the police on them for taking that particular calc away from him--particularly if they refuse to return it to him when he moves out in May.

Maybe we kidnap Sir?
You do realize that kidnapping is a crime, right?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 11, 2010, 11:43:51 am
Of course we do.
However, if I have to choose law and KnightOS, I will defenitely choose KnightOS  ;D
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 11:43:54 am
If Sir's parents were to take away a calculator bought entirely with his own, legitimately earned money, that's petty larceny (presuming the price of the calc was under whatever the specified amount for grand larceny in his state's criminal codes), and Sir could press charges against his parents for stealing the calculator. Since Sir is carefully documenting his paychecks, they could prove in a court of law that his parents have no claim to possession of the calculator.
Yes, but why would he go that far? If he did that, his parents would be even stricter to him!
I'm not saying that he should do that, Scout. I'm just saying that if he does buy a new calc between now and when he moves out in May, and his parents take it away from him, he does have the option of calling the police on them for taking that particular calc away from him--particularly if they refuse to return it to him when he moves out in May.

Maybe we kidnap Sir?
You do realize that kidnapping is a crime, right?

Maybe you should check this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke).
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: holmes221b on December 11, 2010, 11:46:42 am
Maybe you should check this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke).
I know what a joke is, I'm just the stiff who takes everything literally.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 11, 2010, 11:47:35 am
What is joke?  ;)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 11:47:56 am
Maybe you should check this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke).
I know what a joke is, I'm just the stiff who takes everything literally.

Okay. But yeah, 80% of Omnimaga Users are criminal, I bet that almost nobody uses their calculator's ROM in Wabbitemu. I also bet most of use have at least one illegal song, film or program.

So, you'd better get used.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: jnesselr on December 11, 2010, 11:52:40 am
Maybe you should check this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke).
I know what a joke is, I'm just the stiff who takes everything literally.

Okay. But yeah, 80% of Omnimaga Users are criminal, I bet that almost nobody uses their calculator's ROM in Wabbitemu. I also bet most of use have at least one illegal song, film or program.

So, you'd better get used.
Yeah, but it's not an excuse to do illegal things.  Besides, this is a storm we'll just have to wait out.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 11:53:17 am
Maybe you should check this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke).
I know what a joke is, I'm just the stiff who takes everything literally.

Okay. But yeah, 80% of Omnimaga Users are criminal, I bet that almost nobody uses their calculator's ROM in Wabbitemu. I also bet most of use have at least one illegal song, film or program.

So, you'd better get used.
Yeah, but it's not an excuse to do illegal things.  Besides, this is a storm we'll just have to wait out.

Yes, that was not an excuse, it was a way to convince holmes to get used to jokes and reference to illegal activities in the forums.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: jnesselr on December 11, 2010, 11:53:50 am
Maybe you should check this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke).
I know what a joke is, I'm just the stiff who takes everything literally.

Okay. But yeah, 80% of Omnimaga Users are criminal, I bet that almost nobody uses their calculator's ROM in Wabbitemu. I also bet most of use have at least one illegal song, film or program.

So, you'd better get used.
Yeah, but it's not an excuse to do illegal things.  Besides, this is a storm we'll just have to wait out.

Yes, that was not an excuse, it was a way to convince holmes to get used to jokes and reference to illegal activities in the forums.
Oh, I know. It was a joke. ;-)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: holmes221b on December 11, 2010, 11:56:42 am
Okay. But yeah, 80% of Omnimaga Users are criminal, I bet that almost nobody uses their calculator's ROM in Wabbitemu. I also bet most of use have at least one illegal song, film or program.
So, you'd better get used.
All of those crimes are misdemenors or infractions--there's usually no jail time involved. Kidnapping is a felony that will involve jail time.

And I am used to jokes. I just wanted to be sure that my FBI shadows know it was a joke too.


I'm not paranoid--I just know the government is out there keeping an eye on my activities.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 11:57:47 am
Okay. But yeah, 80% of Omnimaga Users are criminal, I bet that almost nobody uses their calculator's ROM in Wabbitemu. I also bet most of use have at least one illegal song, film or program.
So, you'd better get used.
All of those crimes are misdemenors or infractions--there's usually no jail time involved. Kidnapping is a felony that will involve jail time.

And I am used to jokes. I just wanted to be sure that my FBI shadows know it was a joke too.


I'm not paranoid--I just know the government is out there keeping an eye on my activities.

You are so american. Cops in Portugal are the kind of cops that sleep 25hours a day. Excuse me if there is a portuguese cop reading this and is not like that (which I doubt).
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 11, 2010, 11:58:36 am
I once got caught hacking into school server XP
They didn't do anything except for my 5-days account-ban
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: holmes221b on December 11, 2010, 11:59:28 am
Does that mean they sleep at the wheel?

yeong, hacking into a school server is not the same thing as hacking into a secure government network.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 11, 2010, 12:00:18 pm
It is in Korea XD
One of the student in Korea went to jail for hacking School Server and spreading PrOn around  O.O
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: holmes221b on December 11, 2010, 12:02:14 pm
North or South?
There's a difference when it comes to freedom of speech.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 12:02:47 pm
It is in Korea XD
One of the student in Korea went to jail for hacking School Server and spreading PrOn around  O.O

At least you are in the Korea that has internet. Imagine you had born a few kilometres north, you would never know what Omnimaga was.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 11, 2010, 12:03:04 pm
I'm from South Korea, and it happened there,too(Unfortunately, I was in same school)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 12:03:23 pm
I'm from South Korea, and it happened there,too(Unfortunately, I was in same school)

Just be careful, promise us.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 11, 2010, 12:03:55 pm
I didn't do it XP
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: jnesselr on December 11, 2010, 12:03:57 pm
/me puts this topic back on topic since SirCmpwn isn't here to do it.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 12:04:22 pm
/me puts this topic back on topic since SirCmpwn isn't here to do it.

Yes. I have an idea... Maybe SirCmpwn can get very good grades?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 11, 2010, 12:04:45 pm
my plan should work :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 12:05:20 pm
my plan should work :P

Not sure if you noticed, but this is not Randomness.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 11, 2010, 12:06:28 pm
okee.
Some parents doesn't care about good grades, though. IDK about Sir's parents.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 12:07:31 pm
okee.
Some parents doesn't care about good grades, though. IDK about Sir's parents.

My parents are all about grades, all all all. Can I live? good grades only. Can I do anything? good grades only.

It sometimes sucks, but on the otherhand I can do WHATEVER I WANT if I get good grades.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: jnesselr on December 11, 2010, 12:08:07 pm
/me puts this topic back on topic since SirCmpwn isn't here to do it.

Yes. I have an idea... Maybe SirCmpwn can get very good grades?
I believe that SirCmpwn gets good grades.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 12:09:13 pm
/me puts this topic back on topic since SirCmpwn isn't here to do it.

Yes. I have an idea... Maybe SirCmpwn can get very good grades?
I believe that SirCmpwn gets good grades.

Maybe. Maybe his parents care about his behaviour.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 11, 2010, 12:09:53 pm
Sir should try apologizing to his parents?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 12:10:54 pm
Sir should try apologizing to his parents?

I am sooo sure he already did that.

Well, I won't worry anymore with this. I'm sure that by Christmas he'll have his calculator back.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 11, 2010, 12:16:19 pm
Let the spirit of Christmas bless Sir.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 12:17:06 pm
Let the spirit of Christmas bless Sir.

/me blesses SirCmpwn and KnightOS
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Ashbad on December 11, 2010, 12:18:01 pm
Why it is good to anticipate KOS getting more progress soon, I would rather see Sir happy first.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 12:19:25 pm
Why it is good to anticipate KOS getting more progress soon, I would rather see Sir happy first.

Yes, of course.

/me gives Sir a calc
/me is happy
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 11, 2010, 12:20:21 pm
hey..That's my line
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 11, 2010, 12:43:35 pm
I get mediocre grades, for the record.  I just don't care enough to do homework.  I ace all my tests, though.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 12:45:05 pm
I get mediocre grades, for the record.  I just don't care enough to do homework.  I ace all my tests, though.

Ace? 100%? Well, Sir, do you think that by Christmas you'll have your calc.?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 11, 2010, 12:47:13 pm
Ace as in usually 95% and above.  And no, I don't think I'll have it back by Christmas unless I order a new one soon.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 12:47:46 pm
Ace as in usually 95% and above.  And no, I don't think I'll have it back by Christmas unless I order a new one soon.

Wouldn't your parents find out?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Yeong on December 11, 2010, 12:49:33 pm
not unless he hides it in the closet
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: aeTIos on December 11, 2010, 12:50:44 pm
some parents hate it when their children are not enough time busy with their homework, maybe its because of this that his parents won't give his calc back. btw, it sucks, they bought you a calc and they take it, so you cant use it any more, but they paid for it. understand?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Munchor on December 11, 2010, 12:51:37 pm
some parents hate it when their children are not enough time busy with their homework, maybe its because of this that his parents won't give his calc back. btw, it sucks, they bought you a calc and they take it, so you cant use it any more, but they paid for it. understand?

I bought most of my stuff and I think it is fair for parents to take us things we bought.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 11, 2010, 12:54:54 pm
No, if I buy it, they will let me keep it, unless I get into more trouble.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 11, 2010, 01:17:24 pm
If Sir's parents were to take away a calculator bought entirely with his own, legitimately earned money, that's petty larceny (presuming the price of the calc was under whatever the specified amount for grand larceny in his state's criminal codes), and Sir could press charges against his parents for stealing the calculator. Since Sir is carefully documenting his paychecks, they could prove in a court of law that his parents have no claim to possession of the calculator.
Yes, but why would he go that far? If he did that, his parents would be even stricter to him!
I'm not saying that he should do that, Scout. I'm just saying that if he does buy a new calc between now and when he moves out in May, and his parents take it away from him, he does have the option of calling the police on them for taking that particular calc away from him--particularly if they refuse to return it to him when he moves out in May.

Maybe we kidnap Sir?
You do realize that kidnapping is a crime, right?

Maybe you should check this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke).
Maybe you should check this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke).
I know what a joke is, I'm just the stiff who takes everything literally.

Okay. But yeah, 80% of Omnimaga Users are criminal, I bet that almost nobody uses their calculator's ROM in Wabbitemu. I also bet most of use have at least one illegal song, film or program.

So, you'd better get used.
Yeah, but it's not an excuse to do illegal things.  Besides, this is a storm we'll just have to wait out.
Maybe you should check this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke).
I know what a joke is, I'm just the stiff who takes everything literally.

Okay. But yeah, 80% of Omnimaga Users are criminal, I bet that almost nobody uses their calculator's ROM in Wabbitemu. I also bet most of use have at least one illegal song, film or program.

So, you'd better get used.
Yeah, but it's not an excuse to do illegal things.  Besides, this is a storm we'll just have to wait out.

Yes, that was not an excuse, it was a way to convince holmes to get used to jokes and reference to illegal activities in the forums.
Okay. But yeah, 80% of Omnimaga Users are criminal, I bet that almost nobody uses their calculator's ROM in Wabbitemu. I also bet most of use have at least one illegal song, film or program.
So, you'd better get used.
All of those crimes are misdemenors or infractions--there's usually no jail time involved. Kidnapping is a felony that will involve jail time.

And I am used to jokes. I just wanted to be sure that my FBI shadows know it was a joke too.


I'm not paranoid--I just know the government is out there keeping an eye on my activities.

You are so american. Cops in Portugal are the kind of cops that sleep 25hours a day. Excuse me if there is a portuguese cop reading this and is not like that (which I doubt).
ScoutDavid has been banned for one week for being a jerk to another forum member, being extremly closed-minded (assuming everyone will get jokes as easily as him and who doesn't is apparently inferior or stupid), being bigot towards americans and that despite being warned several times before for similar things. In the past, there were often episodes of bashing people hard work in the community, episodes of complaining about negative post ratings and episodes of lack of respect towards certain forum members. He was warned about 4 times for it and it still continues, so we will not see him around for a while.

Posts above were quoted to state where Omnimaga policies were violated this time.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: fb39ca4 on December 11, 2010, 01:24:31 pm
I get mediocre grades, for the record.  I just don't care enough to do homework.  I ace all my tests, though.
I'm like that too - I understand almost all of the material from the start, and don't want to do the homework as it is just extra work, rather than something that helps me. For the past month or so, I have gotten below 50% on my homework, and aced (100%) all my tests and quizzes.

Well said. One week seems a bit harsh, but you did warn him four times
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 11, 2010, 01:31:14 pm
Ace as in usually 95% and above.  And no, I don't think I'll have it back by Christmas unless I order a new one soon.

Wouldn't your parents find out?
Just if they decide to search in his closet and all his personal stuff thoroughly and find another calc. Otherwise I guess Sir could simply code while they're away, but if they installed hidden cameras inside the house (we never know with them), that won't work. In my case, I think it took months before my month discover I had a 89 Titanium in addition to my other two calcs.

On a side note, over here they have been debatting about banning homeworks altogether, because many parents and specialists thinks they're more a nuisance than being helpful. The reason why they are a nuisance is because kids are left with almost no free time to enjoy life or work on their projects, they already practice what they learned at school in classes and they're a source of stress for parents if their kid has learning troubles and parents must help them despite not being able to help much either. I still think they can be useful, though, as you can practice more what you understand less, but I think they shouldn't be in large quantities.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 11, 2010, 01:34:07 pm
That is a great idea.  Homework has never provided any help to me.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: fb39ca4 on December 11, 2010, 01:43:00 pm
I second that.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: holmes221b on December 11, 2010, 01:44:20 pm
Personally, I think homework shouldn't be required, however it should still be provided--maybe as extra credit?
/me has found that she did better in chemistry when she actually turned in her homework...
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 11, 2010, 01:46:57 pm
Yeah I think they should still be provided. What if a student needs more practice on a subject but there's no time in that class? At least he can practice at home then get the teacher to correct him on next class. I personally rarely did my homework past grade 1 of hi school since teachers didn't check but in french classes I always did it, because I felt it was necessary for me since I had troubles in that class. In other classes, I always scored above the required mark to get in my college class the next year so I was fine.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: fb39ca4 on December 11, 2010, 01:52:14 pm
Then it can be assigned but not turned in. That way, teachers can see who didn't learn the material with quizzes rather than grading homework which doesn't help every student.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: willrandship on December 11, 2010, 01:52:51 pm
In my High school, we have homework, but even in my AP classes it's not exactly overwhelming. I have maybe one or two assignments a week, total (not counting the math, but anyone who really wants to can get that done in class fairly easily.)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: matthias1992 on December 11, 2010, 02:43:11 pm
OK, I think I can solve this pretty easily. I just have spend about 2 months reading a book called 'Unlimited Power' by Anthony Robbins and surfing the web for videos of his seminars and others. I have been reading about NLP (neuro-linguistic programming) ALOT so I guess i could be of some help here.

Before you can change anything in their behaviour towards you sir, you need to figure out how they perceive the world and how they perceive you. It's vitally important you remove your tags of them before you do this. With tags I mean things like, person X in school tends to be annoying or person Y is extremely popular. You need to think outside of these boxes and be dirt-honest with yourself about it. If you have difficulty to step inside their shoes let me give you some pointers on what to look for.

1. What are their believes? (I do not mean religion here). A example believe could be: everybody on the workspace is lazy except for me.
A belief in NLP is a perception of the world you (or in this case your parents) hold for true. People can have tons of different believes. It can be as simple as: "purple is an ugly color" to "I am significant at home because I supply all the money for the family".

Just getting a slight sense of this will do. Try to pen down at least 3 believes of each of your parents, preferably more serious ones then the "purple is ugly" thing.

2. Understand and apply the six human needs. EVERYONE in life has need of the underneath and everyone values ONE above ALL others.

->Certainity (I want to feel certain about my relationship, I want to feel certain about my job, I want to feel certain about my future)
->Uncertainity/Variety (More adventurous and outgoing people will have this on the top of their list. So if your parents are adventures and like to go bungee jumping or anything like that then uncertainity is their top need (their needs need not to be the same, they probaly are not))
->Love/Connection (You want to feel loved by others. You want to feel socially important)
->Significance (Same as Love but in a more general way, you want not only to feel loved but to be appreciated and respected. High pride indicates a seek for significance (I myself have this one as my top need))
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OK, the underneath remaining two needs are spiritual needs. Needs for the mind, not for the physique or the rationale.
->Growth (you want a feeling of having done more, achieved more and still growing! Highly motivated people will show this or low motivated people will strive for this)
->Contribution (Same as significance but on a more spiritual level)

Now just take me for granted here that this system of needs, this anarchy is flawless. It works time and time again and is idiot-proof. The main problem in getting to know someone's needs is that most of the time they are striving for a need but NOT reaching it. This causes awkard behaviour. Every time you felt someone behaved innaturally it was probaly because his or her mind was taking a shortcut to fullfill their needs.

Anger and depression are great examples of shortcuts to needs. If you get angry you get certainity at a level 10 (being the very highest). If you feel sad then it will attract attention from others making you feel loved and significant. These are however bad ways to gain what you need. Bad in the sense that these are artificial ways of craving your needs, this will only lead to you wanting to fullfil that need more and more and in a better and authentic way.

I realize that this isn't very specific to your parents yet. But hey, I don't know them. You do. These are strategies to unveil what makes someone tick. This answers the why, and if you know why then you can solve it.

3. Metaprograms. What are the metaprograms your parents run? Let me explain what metaprograms in NLP are in the first place, there are three main metaprograms:

->Frame of reference
->Goal movement
->Matching

a. Frame of reference. People have an internal or external frame of reference. One may get motivated if someone else says "you are doing great" or "nice performance there!'. This is a external frame of reference. An internal frame of reference refers to self-talk. Self-talk is very strong and important. If you feel miserable, unwanted and sad then it's because you are saying to yourself that you are miserable and unwanted. As long as you say "I can't do X" changes are highly unlikely you can. If you say "I can do X (and I motivated to do so(because...))" then this will crave a positive self-image and self esteem which will automatically inflict greater confidence. Confidence by the way is not being "sure" it is being your natural self, and believe me, most people are not their natural selves. For if they were then all those people would have been far more succesfull then they are now. Being confident is being at ease with yourself and being at ease to show to others that inner diamond that is you. Confident is to not pretend to be but to be. So I have nested quite a bit here, all the way down to confidence so let me get back up on internal reference. Internal reference is possessed naturally by leaders because if they were to be influenced by what others said about how they performed they could never have achieved a leader status. Just be alert of how often you are saying to yourself 'Ooh that didn't went too good' or 'Wow I really blew my exam here". Instead of saying these things move into perspective and say "I did not perform in the same fashion as others but I did actually do it in the first place which is a good thing' or "I might have performed less good than others on this exam but I have good grades on the other studies and since those are more in my interest I do not need to really worry about this". Let me give you another trick. Notice the word "but" in my examples here? "But" falsifies everything that has been said before it. So if someone says: "I like your idea but...." then it most of the times means "I don't like your idea, here is a better one"

b. Goal movement. Are you moving away from something or towards something? The best example I can give to explain the principle is through pain. Pain is a natural aspect of live and there are two ways to deal with it. You can move towards something (a goal) but encounter pain during that movement or you can decide not to set a goal but to try and avoid pain. So you can be moving towards something or away from it. If you want to achieve something it is better to move towards something, trying to avoid something makes you go focused on it and focus can be very powerful (in bad ways too). Ever had a fever? Yes? Good. Because then you'll probaly agree with me that during you being ill you noticed that alot of other people were ill too. This is false. This is focus. Since you are ill you focus automatically on being ill and therefore notice all the "illness' around you. It's like I told you to count the number of red objects in the room you are in right now. And then I told you to keep counting in every room you go the number of red objects. Within no time you are bound to see red everywhere.

c. Matching. This is an easy one. Basically you can either match or mismatch. lets take this image:
 :) ;) :D

A matcher says: here are three smilies
A mismatcher says: here are three different smilies

there is some fintuning in this but for the sake of clarity I will leave that out.

4. Persuasion. In order to get what you want (in this case your calc and access to a PC) you'll need to be persuasive. Before you can be persuasive you need to be confident.
Could you please think of a time in your mind at which you were very confident. Can you see the image in front of you? Or do you hear sounds? maybe you feel whatever it was you were touchin or maybe you can smell or taste something. Now I want you to feel confident at level 5 (0=completely unconfident 10=extremely confident). Please stand up for me right now.

>If your memory is primarily an image then brighten it up. Saturate the colors and really tune the brightness of it up. Also make the image more crispier in your mind and let it slowly grow and move towards you. Raise your confidence level to a 7

>If your memory is primarily a sound then tune it up, make it louder. Raise the timbre make it sounds as crisp and highdef as possible. Make it live inside you as if you were there. Raise your confidence level to a 7

>If your memory is primarily a feeling then tune up your sensitivity (note feeling can also be internal->emotion) feel the texture of it. Feel the ectasy of that moment and how happy you were. Raise your confidence level to a 7

Now if you really can't recall a memory of this sort then lie to yourself. Ever wanted to be like V in V for Vendetta or like Neo in the Matrix? Then just presume you were that person and let your fantasy run crazy on it. Then rewind this as if it were an authentic memory and apply the above.

Ok now I want you to put your hands behind your back and to grab your own hands together. Please now raise your confidence to a 8. Raise your shoulders. Hold your head high and pull your chest out front a bit. You are now at level 9 of confindence. Now you take a deep breath and let it sore trough you making every fiber in you itch with that undeniable feeling of confidence. You are now at a level 10 of confidence! Whatever you do now you do confidently, whatever action you take will turn golden. You are in a extremely resourcefull and powerfull state right now! So make a fist out of your right hand and hit your upper left chest with it as you say out loud: "Strength".

Great! you have now anchored confidence within yourself! If you have more then one memory of being confident (which I am sure you have) then please do the exact same exercise only with that different memory. This is called stacking and makes you even more confident whenever you fire the anchor. Firing the anchor is easy. Just at anytime you need confidence hit yourself on the upper left chest with your right hand (in a fist) and say: "Strength"

You will feel the confidence ooze through you at that very instant! Change your breathing, make slow and relaxed and deep. Breathe throughout your stomach all the way up to your chest, neck and then let the air slip in and out through your nostrils. It's all about changing your physiology to a confident one.

Ok now that you feel confident you can easily persuae someone. Unless, they dont trust you. To build trust you use rapport. Rapport is basically mirroring the body langauge of the person you are talking to (or sitting in front of). It takes a bit of practice but since it is very covert you need not fear of getting caught. So what do you mirror?

->Posture: If someone leans in forward you do that as well. If someone leans left or right you do that too. Just about any movement you can see without staring you just copy it.
->breathing and pulse. You can try to match someones breathing by breathing at the same rate but its more covert and easier to just tap in the rythym of their breathing and/or pulse with your fingers.
->Tonality and speed. If someone talks fast then you should talk fast too. If someone talks in a deep low pitched voice then you should too.
->gestures. Speaks for itself, just copy it! You'll see that one gesture relates to a certain state or word as well. So if one talks about travelling from A to B changes are he gestures to the left when talking about A and gestures right when he talks about B (or vice versa). So if you start to talk about travelling use those same gestures!

This is the art of making someone feel at ease with you. If you want to build a (love)realationship with someone then copy their body language!
Did you realize that 40% of a message is body language? That's why internet sucks at times because there are no gestures to look for and no clues on intention.

The last thing I want to give to you is the need of two things:

you will need to be flexible. Sir, you're goal is to get your parents yo give you your calc back. You have not one way to do it. All you have are strategies "plans of", ideas. These might work or might not work. For whatever reason you must be able to change your strategy. You can never, ever fail. There is only result. The result brings you closer to your goal or further from it. If you are moving towards it then you can keep your current strategy, if you move away from it, it's time to change.

This brings me to the last thing I have to tell you and one thing that you need to value most. The key to succes is commitment. Subconsciously you know that all of what I've said is true. And it will work. It does all the time. It did when you bought that product. Really the only reason you buy something is because you feel like you need it. You feel that way because salesmen are NLP experts and have programmed you, yes literally programmed you to buy their product. So many people in the world already know all this stuff that makes up NLP but they never get the succes out of it Just because they simply will not Do It.

I hope this helped many of you who feel they need to persuae somebody or just in general improve their quality of life.

All the best,

Matthias1992
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: turiqwalrus on December 11, 2010, 03:36:08 pm
I get mediocre grades, for the record.  I just don't care enough to do homework.  I ace all my tests, though.
absolutely same here, except that my parents don't take away my calc. The worst they've done is an accidental RAM clear(they dropped it and the batteries flew out).
at that point, I hadn't even started on programming.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 11, 2010, 04:47:15 pm
Holy shit Matthias O.O
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Eeems on December 11, 2010, 04:56:32 pm
Matthias++
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: AngelFish on December 11, 2010, 05:24:33 pm
That's a long post  O.O

But unfortunately human Psychology isn't quite that simple.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Happybobjr on December 11, 2010, 05:55:31 pm
That's a long post  O.O

But unfortunately human Psychology isn't quite that simple.
truly it is.

the problem is that it will fail if a variable is misinterpreted.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: AngelFish on December 11, 2010, 06:14:38 pm
Human variation is what I mean. You'd be hard pressed to find any two people whose psychology is identical.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: holmes221b on December 11, 2010, 06:30:34 pm
Human variation is what I mean. You'd be hard pressed to find any two people whose psychology is identical.
Even identical twins are different--it's a matter of nature and nurture.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: matthias1992 on December 11, 2010, 06:34:27 pm
That's a long post  O.O

But unfortunately human Psychology isn't quite that simple.
Yes and no.
Yes because I am not a NLP expert + I intentionally left some stuff out (and I did some covert techniques in the text itself which motivates you to do the confident building technique)
No because NLP is very flexible. It is not a way of describing someone's psychology it is about understanding it. NLP provides, on one hand, some pointers as to how people work which just gives you a quick overview about how someone thinks. One can analyze in a matter of seconds what the best strategy is to sell something to somebody. Let me teach you all a new principle. People have five senses. Three of which are extensively used. Those three are: hearing, touching and seeing. In nice terms: auditory, kinesthetic, visual. Everybody uses those three senses but it differs per person which is the most used one. There is always One Topping the others. I myself am auditory. It's pretty easy to figure out. I think you like this because this system uses a mathematical like style of notating strategies.

-> Visual: I can see your point: It is getting wet, I saw big clouds overhead
-> Auditory: I can hear your point/your logic is sound to me: It is getting wet, I heard thunder rumbling
-> Kinesthetic: Your point makes sense to me: It is getting wet, I felt raindrops

Now a strategy is a very cool thing to understand. Basically in everything you do behind it lies a strategy. Everyone has ways of doing things. Before I can explain this further I need to make a more detailled specification when it comes to the represantational system above.

There are two main subdivisions: internal (emotionally) and external (what others say/direct/physique).

Visual External a.k.a Ve = The things you see
Visual Internal a.k.a Vi = The things you picture in your mind (seeing yourself doing this or that)
Auditory External a.k.a Ae = The things you hear from others
Auditory Internal (Dialog) a.k.a Ai(d) = The things you say to yourself/self-talk
Kinesthetic External a.k.a Ke = Things you physically touch
Kinesthetic Internal a.k.a Ki = Emotions, how your gut feels or felt.

Now the cool thing is that you can use modeling to become a expert at anything. If you can figure the strategy of a highly motivated person could you then become a expert at that thing X too? You bet. Within a small amount of time? You bet. Within even just a matter of days?? You bet.

A motivated person might first picture himself doing something, then talk to himself to crank up his motivation and then just does it! This strategy would be: Vi->Ai(d)

You can model someone's expertise easily.

1. Get yourself familiar with recognizing strategies, just try to figure some of your own and those of relatives.
2. Built rapport with the one you want to model
3. Ask cleverly (I'll do that later on sometime, I am getting a bit tired of all the typing)

For now just practice on getting familiar with recognizing strategies. For example: What do you do when you are motivated? How do you determine you are motivated?

just by asking these two questions you can figure your own motivation strategy. Don't be surprised if you have a visually based strategy whilst you are mostly auditory, it's actually good news because now you change your strategy to auditory. It will work far better for you.

That's a long post  O.O

But unfortunately human Psychology isn't quite that simple.
truly it is.

the problem is that it will fail if a variable is misinterpreted.
I don't quite agree with you. First of all because you used the word "fail" which is prohibited in my dictionary :)
second is that you must Take Signals in Clusters. You can't say that somebody is angry because he/she has his/her arms crossed. So misinterpreting one variable does not result in automatic failure. Always take signals in context.

Thank you all for your kind words and respects, I never saw that coming. I just thought I'd share this with you. It's Very Powerful stuff.

Human variation is what I mean. You'd be hard pressed to find any two people whose psychology is identical.
Even identical twins are different--it's a matter of nature and nurture.
Correct. NLP is providing structures and methods that work on 99% of the people. And if one method does not work on person A then changes are very slim a other method wont work either. NLP also wields the power of language. Both verbal and nonverbal language. NLP has some much tricks in it that it has a 100% succes rate because no one is completely immune to NLP (except for the dead xD)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: AngelFish on December 11, 2010, 07:02:28 pm
Correct. NLP is providing structures and methods that work on 99% of the people. And if one method does not work on person A then changes are very slim a other method wont work either. NLP also wields the power of language. Both verbal and nonverbal language. NLP has some much tricks in it that it has a 100% succes rate because no one is completely immune to NLP (except for the dead xD)

I must be part of that 1% because

Quote
->Love/Connection (You want to feel loved by others. You want to feel socially important)
doesn't really apply to me :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: holmes221b on December 11, 2010, 07:06:24 pm
First of all because you used the word "fail" which is prohibited in my dictionary :)
To quote the lovely folks from 'Mythbusters', "failure is always an option".

NLP is providing structures and methods that work on 99% of the people. And if one method does not work on person A then changes are very slim a other method wont work either. NLP also wields the power of language. Both verbal and nonverbal language. NLP has some much tricks in it that it has a 100% succes rate because no one is completely immune to NLP (except for the dead xD)
It is impossible to have a 100% success rate--at least, not without someone fudging the data. And until you provide me with quantifiable, unbiased, scientific fact, I am inclined to be very dubious of your claims.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Binder News on December 11, 2010, 07:49:00 pm
WTF!!! When I checked this topic Friday at school, it was 2 pages, then later that day it was 4 pages. Now it's 10 pages!!!!!! *scary*.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 11, 2010, 09:31:32 pm
Wait a sec, I just realized that we have an active female member.  Wow.
[/sexist internet stupidity]

Where did all that come from, matthias?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: jnesselr on December 11, 2010, 09:50:16 pm
Wait a sec, I just realized that we have an active female member.  Wow.
[/sexist internet stupidity]
We actually have two. Xeda and holmes.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Eeems on December 11, 2010, 09:51:40 pm
well, more, just two active
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: nemo on December 11, 2010, 09:51:58 pm
First of all because you used the word "fail" which is prohibited in my dictionary :)
To quote the lovely folks from 'Mythbusters', "failure is always an option".

NLP is providing structures and methods that work on 99% of the people. And if one method does not work on person A then changes are very slim a other method wont work either. NLP also wields the power of language. Both verbal and nonverbal language. NLP has some much tricks in it that it has a 100% succes rate because no one is completely immune to NLP (except for the dead xD)
It is impossible to have a 100% success rate--at least, not without someone fudging the data. And until you provide me with quantifiable, unbiased, scientific fact, I am inclined to be very dubious of your claims.

impossible to have a 100% success rate?

- every time i take a breath, i breathe in air. 100% of the time. successfully.
- this soccer season, i successfully played in every single JVA game. that's 100%.
- i didn't miss school the entire first quarter. i was successfully, 100%, in attendance.

clearly, someone is fudging the data on my life, because it is impossible to not miss school for 45 days. you must have at least one absence. that word impossible is thrown around too much. i don't agree completely with matthias either, but i'm not going to call his theory impossible.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: jnesselr on December 11, 2010, 09:54:08 pm
/me puts this topic back on topic once again.

People, stop arguing! Make another topic if you want to argue about your ideas and such, just not in Sir's thread like this.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: nemo on December 11, 2010, 09:57:52 pm
/me puts this topic back on topic once again.

People, stop arguing! Make another topic if you want to argue about your ideas and such, just not in Sir's thread like this.

sorry :P the idea bugs me.

Sir, i haven't exactly been reading along (just saw matthias' psychology thing and became engrossed), but i saw your first post. i'm very sorry, though it looks like you're managing to get some progress done on most projects
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: jnesselr on December 11, 2010, 09:59:04 pm
/me puts this topic back on topic once again.

People, stop arguing! Make another topic if you want to argue about your ideas and such, just not in Sir's thread like this.

sorry :P the idea bugs me.

Sir, i haven't exactly been reading along (just saw matthias' psychology thing and became engrossed), but i saw your first post. i'm very sorry, though it looks like you're managing to get some progress done on most projects
Bugs me too, really. If you make a topic about it, we all might participate in it. ;-)

@SirCmpwn: Will you get scholarships to go to college, will you pay, or will your parents pay? It would be best if your parents paid nothing, IMHO.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: AngelFish on December 11, 2010, 10:02:57 pm
First of all because you used the word "fail" which is prohibited in my dictionary :)
To quote the lovely folks from 'Mythbusters', "failure is always an option".

Except for Adam hurting himself :p

But Graphmaster is right, back to the topic.

Wow, that sucks Sir. Are you still allowed to program on the computer, because I'm sure you could do the Assembly in notepad and Wabbit, even if Wabbit doesn't perfectly emulate the z80.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 11, 2010, 10:03:57 pm
My parents offered to pay for every cent of community college.  I can't refuse.
Qwerty.55, yes.  I feel like everyone is taking this out of proportion.  It really isn't too bad.  I'm here posting, aren't I?  I just can't connect calc to computer, or program in asm on-calc (let's see how long it takes them to realize what Axe is ;)).  My only major asm project is KnightOS, though, and I'm facing some 84+ compatibility issues that must be tested on hardware, and I don't want to move on too much until they are fixed.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: jnesselr on December 11, 2010, 10:05:47 pm
My parents offered to pay for every cent of community college.  I can't refuse.
I see. Can't refuse as in "too good to be true" or can't refuse as in "I can't refuse. They won't let me."
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 11, 2010, 10:10:13 pm
The former.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: AngelFish on December 11, 2010, 10:11:20 pm
My parents offered to pay for every cent of community college.  I can't refuse.

I hear Colorado State has some research positions open for Undergrads...

*Wishes he knew anyone at CSU so he could put in a good word for Sir, even if he doesn't want to go*
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: jnesselr on December 11, 2010, 10:11:54 pm
The former.
Okay. I see then. That's fine, I just figured it would be better if they didn't pay and couldn't hold that aspect over your head.

Also, 4 more posts til I'm lucky!
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 11, 2010, 10:13:50 pm
I also missed the deadline for everything except PPCC :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 11, 2010, 11:36:04 pm
My parents offered to pay for every cent of community college.  I can't refuse.
Qwerty.55, yes.  I feel like everyone is taking this out of proportion.  It really isn't too bad.  I'm here posting, aren't I?  I just can't connect calc to computer, or program in asm on-calc (let's see how long it takes them to realize what Axe is ;)).  My only major asm project is KnightOS, though, and I'm facing some 84+ compatibility issues that must be tested on hardware, and I don't want to move on too much until they are fixed.
Ah ok. I was worried because it seemed like you would not be able to code anything calc-related for a long while. X.x
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: calcdude84se on December 12, 2010, 01:20:51 pm
I feel that everyone has already stated everything more useful (wow I'm late... :P), so I'll just wish you best of luck with life :D
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 13, 2010, 02:37:44 pm
My parents offered to pay for every cent of community college.
Btw are there any conditions to this? Like, for example, you must stay at their home for the entire time you're into college and must not do any calc stuff and you still have all computer filters turned ON for the entire time? O.O
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 13, 2010, 04:55:36 pm
Umm, no.  They will remove filters and give me administrator access to my laptop when I turn 18, or so they claim.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: jnesselr on December 13, 2010, 04:57:28 pm
Umm, no.  They will remove filters and give me administrator access to my laptop when I turn 18, or so they claim.
When is your Birthday?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: holmes221b on December 13, 2010, 04:59:06 pm
Umm, no.  They will remove filters and give me administrator access to my laptop when I turn 18, or so they claim.
What are the odds that they will stay true to their claim?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Happybobjr on December 13, 2010, 05:23:53 pm
Umm, no.  They will remove filters and give me administrator access to my laptop when I turn 18, or so they claim.
What are the odds that they will stay true to their claim?

does it matter?
he bought it right?
When he is 18, why not just remove the settings yourself?
Or are these like super high-tech security programs and filters?

Note: i am not suggesting anything illegal.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 13, 2010, 05:24:20 pm
Well, it has Windows 7 on it, which I would like to leave there...
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 13, 2010, 05:27:43 pm
It depends, Happybobjr. I was 20 years old in 2007 and my mom still removed my internet access for spending too much time online. AS long as you don't rent the appartment or own the house here, it seems like we don't have the last word and the only solution is to move out.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Happybobjr on December 13, 2010, 05:35:35 pm
ya.

Or get some nifty things on your flashdrive :/
Puppylinux :P :P :P
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 14, 2010, 10:36:57 pm
Just so you know, SirCmpwn is grounded for all the Christmas Break and is supposed to be ungrounded sometime in early 2011, but with his parents, it isn't guaranteed. Since he goes in vacation on Friday, he will most likely not be able to access the forums after that time.
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Hello,
The situation with my parents worsened.  I am grounded until sometime in early 2011.  My calculators and computer access have been taken away, and I cannot access another computer over break, which begins Friday.  I will be unable to visit the forums during this time.
I would appreciate it if you were to relay these details on your respective forum.
Thanks, and see you next year.

Drew DeVault
Sent from my Windows Phone



Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Eeems on December 14, 2010, 10:55:16 pm
Wow this sucks :(
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 14, 2010, 10:56:57 pm
Indeed. I hope his parents aren't home too often during Christmas.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Ranman on December 14, 2010, 11:20:15 pm
My goodness... Programming can be a lucrative profession. I am a software engineer for Lockheed Martin. I perform tasks such as designing, coding, testing, integration, and troubleshooting software for the Joint Strike Fighter F-35. I make a pretty good salary.

It takes a lot of practice to get really good. Parents grounding their children from doing things they love (like programming) can have a negative impact on their child's income. Why?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 14, 2010, 11:22:39 pm
To me it seems more like they're totally against calc programming. To me it's stupid because with calc programming you can get better at computer programming. With TI-BASIC you learn the programming concepts easily then learn to optimize like crazy due to limited language and platform, and with ASM you learn to code in low level where you have to mess with memory to do anything.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Ranman on December 14, 2010, 11:25:38 pm
I put calculator programming on my resume. During my first interview, the interviewer was very curious and asked a lot of questions about it. I believe it helped me land my job. :)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Happybobjr on December 14, 2010, 11:26:28 pm
To me it seems more like they're totally against calc programming. To me it's stupid because with calc programming you can get better at computer programming. With TI-BASIC you learn the programming concepts easily then learn to optimize like crazy due to limited language and platform, and with ASM you learn to code in low level where you have to mess with memory to do anything.
sorry this is a little random but,  what if your parents were made by TI, and then TI decided to restrict native asm?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: SirCmpwn on December 14, 2010, 11:38:35 pm
Dropping by on my phone - I'm not going on vacation, I just won't have access to a computer until the end of the year.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 14, 2010, 11:43:47 pm
Oh I meant christmas vacations.

At least I am glad you can actually post from your phone, though (unless that's gonna be taken away too? ??? )
To me it seems more like they're totally against calc programming. To me it's stupid because with calc programming you can get better at computer programming. With TI-BASIC you learn the programming concepts easily then learn to optimize like crazy due to limited language and platform, and with ASM you learn to code in low level where you have to mess with memory to do anything.
sorry this is a little random but,  what if your parents were made by TI, and then TI decided to restrict native asm?
O.O Made by TI? ???
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: TIfanx1999 on December 15, 2010, 02:52:08 am
I put calculator programming on my resume. During my first interview, the interviewer was very curious and asked a lot of questions about it. I believe it helped me land my job. :)
That's awesome Ranman! :D
Dropping by on my phone - I'm not going on vacation, I just won't have access to a computer until the end of the year.
Ah, that sux. :( At least the beging on the year isn't very far off though.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 15, 2010, 04:22:23 am
On a side note, he just e-mailed me and Kerm that the dev release of KOS would be delayed to Feb 1st.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: fb39ca4 on December 15, 2010, 04:16:09 pm
Oh I meant christmas vacations.

At least I am glad you can actually post from your phone, though (unless that's gonna be taken away too? ??? )
To me it seems more like they're totally against calc programming. To me it's stupid because with calc programming you can get better at computer programming. With TI-BASIC you learn the programming concepts easily then learn to optimize like crazy due to limited language and platform, and with ASM you learn to code in low level where you have to mess with memory to do anything.
sorry this is a little random but,  what if your parents were made by TI, and then TI decided to restrict native asm?
O.O Made by TI? ???
Since when did TI make robotic parents ???

On a more serious note, calcs are a great platform to begin programming on because of the simplicity of the hardware. It's a shame TI locked down the nspire, because z80 hardware is kinda old. Then again, it got hacked, so no harm done.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects
Post by: qazz42 on December 15, 2010, 04:52:57 pm
Okay, here's the basic idea:
While testing KOS on hardware, my calculator was incapable of doing math.  Duh.
My parent's didn't like this, and have told me that I cannot do anything on my calculator that I couldn't do when I first pulled it out of the box, and I'm not allowed to connect it to a computer.

Steal it back or something :/ thats what I did. Man your parents really must be that bad. If you wanna send me anything to keep safe, I would be more than happy to help
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: jnesselr on December 15, 2010, 04:54:16 pm
You know, now that I think about it, is there someone at your school that could help you test it?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: Deep Toaster on December 15, 2010, 05:01:07 pm
Again? That really sucks... :(

If you don't mind me asking, why, though?
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: c.sprinkle on December 15, 2010, 05:03:48 pm
Okay, here's the basic idea:
While testing KOS on hardware, my calculator was incapable of doing math.  Duh.
My parent's didn't like this, and have told me that I cannot do anything on my calculator that I couldn't do when I first pulled it out of the box, and I'm not allowed to connect it to a computer.

Yeah, I just keep the programming relatively quiet so nobody steals my calc.
 ;)
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: matthias1992 on December 15, 2010, 05:04:18 pm
Ok sorry for the random reply but I just wanted to say that I have made a NLP topic where we can discuss more about the techniques I offered earlier on. I know that this has little to do with the topic in its current context but since my post in this topic was so greatly appreacited I almost felt obligated to tell you.

Here:http://ourl.ca/8300/154045;topicseen#new

All you need to know Is Right There.

P.S.
Dj or any other staff member I'll be willing to remove this post if I break rules by doing this...It is just that I felt I needed to tell you all about this since it was so greatly appreaciated at the time.
Title: Re: SirCmpwn's Projects Suspended
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 15, 2010, 10:56:32 pm
I think it is fine as long as you don't hijack this topic too often. :P