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Calculator Community => Other Calculators => Topic started by: apcalc on February 25, 2011, 07:13:03 pm
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I was browsing TI's French website and I came across this "TI-84 Pocket" that is coming soon:
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/FRANCE/productCategory/fr_graphing.html
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/FRANCE/productDetail/fr_TI-84Pocket.html
Would anyone here (critor?) happen to know what this is? Are there any major differences from a normal 84+/84+ SE?
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The pic doesn't look any different from a TI-84 Plus except for a blue circle... No idea what that is.
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They might be using the image as a simple place holder... but if this is a pocket sized TI-84+ then that is awesome!
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True. If it's that small, that would be amazing :crazy:
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Well I have seen a CAS calculator on a small, touch screen device thing that a friend has. It fits in the palm of his hand, too.
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I bet this will be a french calc, it ends the name with .fr and I can only find it on the french website
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Maybe it's exactly like an 84+ in shape, but half size, using a smaller, same res LCD.
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Maybe it's exactly like an 84+ in shape, but half size, using a smaller, same res LCD.
so a tamagachi? :P
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who said 84's weren't already pocket sized? I always keep it in my pocket. :P
anyway, their 89s look shinier :P
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Yunhua: same :)
yeah the titaniums look shinier when advertised :P
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Why couldn't all of these cool things come out one year earlier? I would have probably bought one of the pockets.
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anyway, their 89s look shinier :P
I love the color scheme of the French 89! :)
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Weird, to me it looks like they'll soon release a different looking TI-84+ soon, like they did with the TI-82 and 83 in 2000 and the TI-82 Stats. Maybe they'll try to fit that Parcus calc look.
Weirdly enough, the site has no info on the calc.
Also I agree the TI-89T from France looks great.
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just out of curiosity, but how come none of the other countries have their own special calcs like France?
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just out of curiosity, but how come none of the other countries have their own special calcs like France?
I think it's just France for some reason.
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I'm curious about this calculator as well. I wonder what the differences (if any) are?
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Sorry for being late. I have no more info than you.
It's my guess, but I'm pretty sure that it will be one of those 2 things:
- either some kind of TI-84+ emulator for the iPhone or something like that
- either a special TI-84+ using a clam shell, like the Casio fx-9860G Slim
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It could be a version of the 84 that is similar in form factor to a calc like the TI-34 multiview.
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or degraded TI-84+ like NeoGeo -> NeoGeo Pocket.... >:D
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If it has a better screen, I'll buy it. :)
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I will get it if it has a proper RAM `-`
I must has the TI-BOY! I must!
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- either a special TI-84+ using a clam shell, like the Casio fx-9860G Slim
That would be epic, if it had all the features.
Though it probably wouldn't have the extra RAM pages, and it looks like it would only be the BE.
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- either a special TI-84+ using a clam shell, like the Casio fx-9860G Slim
That would be epic, if it had all the features.
Though it probably wouldn't have the extra RAM pages, and it looks like it would only be the BE.
I just hope they don't remove more RAM pages x.x But a pocket-sized (for small pockets) graphing calculator sounds awesome! 84 Plus Nano someday? :D
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just out of curiosity, but how come none of the other countries have their own special calcs like France?
Well the same thing happens with USA with the TI-73: no other country (even Canada) has it. In many european countries there was the TI-82 STATS which was a TI-83 non-plus renamed to TI-83, but it got discontinued outside France.
I think TI just tries to attract more customers and increase their sales more there, because they have fiercer competition against Casio in France (notice how the most active Casio forum, Planète-Casio, is in French)
Personally I still think it might be a smaller TI-84+. After all, since the hip-hop/Yo/rappist fashion where everyone had clothers 2 sizes larger than normal, pant pockets aren't always as deep as they were back then. Back then you could fit two calcs in one pocket.
As for why it wouldn't come out in America, then I guess it's because TI already have their monopoly and huge sales there and they'll be fine by just releasing the Nspire CX and selling slidecases separately. :P
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Ah, french people, they always have to do things differently.
And could it be a miniature 84+?
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On http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/FRANCE/productCategory/fr_graphing.html , the TI-84 Plus.Fr pocket image/link seems to have been removed...
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so it has... Thats not good... ???
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What the....TI76?
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On http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/FRANCE/productCategory/fr_graphing.html , the TI-84 Plus.Fr pocket image/link seems to have been removed...
Maybe it was posted erroneously or they decided to scrap it?
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(http://i63.servimg.com/u/f63/13/23/13/53/84pock10.jpg)
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YES, if that is real, I spy a app/prgm button :O
Any specs on this at all? (hopeing for full RAM for TI-BOY/emu8x)
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That'll sure make it awkward to play current games. :(
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Now let's play mario with this and...
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Actually, it would make it easier to hold/press (although that it just my opinion)
I notice a port for both USB AND I/O GG, I thik TI is about to get it right for once after all these years :D
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YES, if that is real, I spy a app/prgm button :O
"apps" and "prgm" buttons are in the top right hand corner... what do you mean?
Just have a closer look:
(http://i63.servimg.com/u/f63/13/23/13/53/84pock10.jpg)
No specifications yet.
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yeah it does have the .fr on the end of it :(
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YES, if that is real, I spy a app/prgm button :O
"apps" and "prgm" buttons are in the top right hand corner... what do you mean?
Just have a closer look:
(http://i63.servimg.com/u/f63/13/23/13/53/84pock10.jpg)
No specifications yet.
I mean "I spy a prgm and app button"
what did you think I meant ???
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I'm not sure - is having the enter button in between the arrow keys a good idea or a bad idea?
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imo, I like it, although I can see how that COULD get in the way..
oh... wait... the arrow keys are positioned THERE? aww wtf?
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No curretly existing arcade games going on this calc. :P
I wonder whether I could get one in America?
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It should be released in America, why wouldnt it?
also, a game where you just dodge, like doodlejump, could go there, IDK
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unless its arrows only, yeah.
it says its TI-84 Pocket.fr :(
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so? That could mean that there will be a American release, but just a while later...
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@Qazz: Not likely, but that thing does look freakin sweet. Do want! :D
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51v6iqQ%2BZSL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Not wanting to dash hopes, kerm pointed this out.
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O_o what's the meaning of that....
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...so it's a 'shop? :( That would have been awesome.
On http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/FRANCE/productCategory/fr_graphing.html , the TI-84 Plus.Fr pocket image/link seems to have been removed...
Are they doing this on purpose? We keep finding these links that get removed soon after...
What the....TI76?
Yeah, it's been here for a while now.
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It is either a 'shop or TI being horridly unimaginative. :/
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Yes, it was a 'shop.
I've done it myself.
But the final TI-84 Pocket.fr could have several similarities...
TI-France has mentionned on FB that:
- the TI-84 Pocket.fr will have the same functionnalities as other TI-84+
- the keys will have the french labels
- the screen will have the same dimensions as the TI-84+ screen
- the calculator will be smaller ("pocket")
So this was one way of making a much smaller TI-84+.
Here's another way with a sliding keypad, but I've spent much less time on it:
(http://i63.servimg.com/u/f63/13/23/13/53/84pock10.png)
(http://i63.servimg.com/u/f63/13/23/13/53/84pock11.png)
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So this was one way of making a much smaller TI-84+.
Here's another way with a sliding keypad, but I've spent much less time on it:
Hmm, I doubt TI would make a sliding keypad. The keys that get recessed would be a lot harder to access.
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Yes, it was a 'shop.
I've done it myself.
But the final TI-84 Pocket.fr could have several similarities...
TI-France has mentionned on FB that:
- the TI-84 Pocket.fr will have the same functionnalities as other TI-84+
- the keys will have the french labels
- the screen will have the same dimensions as the TI-84+ screen
- the calculator will be smaller ("pocket")
So this was one way of making a much smaller TI-84+.
Here's another way with a sliding keypad, but I've spent much less time on it:
(http://i63.servimg.com/u/f63/13/23/13/53/84pock10.png)
(http://i63.servimg.com/u/f63/13/23/13/53/84pock11.png)
I wondered,(about the shopping) but I still stand by what i said. A small clamshell design like that would be awesome! =) I am curious to see what TI will actually come up with.
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And I wonder why this is a France-only calculator. Everyone would want a smaller graphing calculator.
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Here's a way.....smaller screen, Nspire Alpha's buttons for everything, li-Ion battery :P
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What the....TI76?
It's a stripped down TI-83/82 Stats. It's the same thin but with fewer functions. Kinda like the TI-73 in USA.
As for the images above it's obviously photoshopped but I guess it would be nice. For some reasons, I really believe they'll follow the same design as the TI-82 Stats.Fr or TI-76.Fr, though:
(http://www.ilemaths.net/img/forum_img/0251/forum_251468_2.jpg) (http://multimedia.fnac.com/multimedia/images_produits/zoom/9/7/7/3243480100779.jpg)
This is the same design as the 3rd versions of the TI-82 and 83 in 2001:
(http://www.techpoweredmath.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ti-82.jpg) (http://www.elexp.com/calc/TI83.jpg)
I hope the LCD isn't blue, though. O.O
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I must say I like the big numbers :P
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So this was one way of making a much smaller TI-84+.
Here's another way with a sliding keypad, but I've spent much less time on it:
Hmm, I doubt TI would make a sliding keypad. The keys that get recessed would be a lot harder to access.
Yes, me too.
Sincerely, the clamshell TI-84 pocket.fr is more probable (and better).
Here's a way.....smaller screen, Nspire Alpha's buttons for everything, li-Ion battery :P
TI has indicated that the screen size will be the same.
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So this was one way of making a much smaller TI-84+.
Here's another way with a sliding keypad, but I've spent much less time on it:
Hmm, I doubt TI would make a sliding keypad. The keys that get recessed would be a lot harder to access.
Yes, me too.
Sincerely, the clamshell TI-84 pocket.fr is more probable (and better).
Here's a way.....smaller screen, Nspire Alpha's buttons for everything, li-Ion battery :P
TI has indicated that the screen size will be the same.
Because there's only one engineer left who remembers how to make displays that crappy. (http://xkcd.com/768/) :D
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there is always an xkcd for everything
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Or maybe all their best Z80 programmers are gone, so there's nobody left who can write a new OS for them.
Or maybe they've decided they're not going to make any more improvements to the Z80 line because they've run out of numbers. What would they do next, a TI-84 doubleplus?
Seriously, it's nice that the past few models have (more or less) preserved backwards compatibility, but I'd like to see something really new.
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I'll be glad when they give up on updating the OS
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Although the fact the 68K OS isn't updated anymore is kinda scary. Sometimes lack of updates almost sounds like they might discontinue the entire line at one point. Fortunately, this isn't the case for the 84+ as they just released 2 OSes in 1 year.
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I'll be glad when they give up on adding bugs to the OS
Fixd' yo! :P
Although the fact the 68K OS isn't updated anymore is kinda scary. Sometimes lack of updates almost sounds like they might discontinue the entire line at one point. Fortunately, this isn't the case for the 84+ as they just released 2 OSes in 1 year.
Yea, I think they did that mostly to keep up a good public image. We've been constantly accusing them of not updating their product line for years, so the made some minor additions to make it appear as if they cared/ were still interested in improving/maintaining it.
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I lol'd at your first quote. :P Personally for the 84+ I think they might have seen people were worried about the future of that calculator line and to avoid hurting their sales due to peopel going with Casio, for example, they just released a new OS.
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Well, the 2 OS's weren't particularly good and they didn't update anything major (if you call mathprint major) I found the statistics wizards helpful though.
Also, Axe programs tend to corrupt the stats functions, giving mem errors. I wonder why? It has something to do with free ram (I think L2 or L4) because I trial-and-errored with graviter.
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Yeah, to me they just wanted to do something like on the 89 (Mathprint) and simply wanted to have an actual OS update, even if it didn't add much. I personally prefer OS 2.43 MP.
Btw if this happens with Axe, you should probably report this to Quigibo.
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@Leafiness: If I recall I think someone said they just hijacked the pre-existing Mathprint code from the TI-73 and plugged it in. Don't quote me on that though. I don't know about the stats wizard though.
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Hmm I think I recall hearing about this before AOC. I am curious if such OS patch exists in stable form...
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would be great if this came out in the U.S.
Luckily(or not), I will be moving to germany after this school year and then can easily get one(hopefully)
sadly, this also means having to pay ridiculously high prices on most calcs
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I wonder if this will have extra RAM pages or not. Hmmm... ???
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This could be interesting... but I wouldn't get it unless I lost/broke my existing calculator.
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Well, as I no longer own a working15Mhz calculator, this could be a viable option for me. It really depends on
how badly TI messes it up what features are included and how compatibility is.
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Yeah I seriously hope it won't come with even weaker hardware or something. Or even worse screen.
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A more portable TI-84 would be nice. I usually just carry mine around in my pocket without the front case on. Makes it not so awkward. A true pocket TI-84 would be an emulator on the iDevices. I haven't seen any yet though. Here's to hoping. :)
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Funny you mention that Parker I started working on an emulator for iDevices. But I have to wait for the toolchain script to come out for the newer version of iOS.
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A ti-84 emulator for iDevices would be great! I wonder if there are any iphone developers here that can release it for cydia.
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Well 4.3 just came out today. Hopefully that doesn't mess anything up. XD
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I'm not upgrading to 4.3 until its untethered jailbroken. and really a dev kit is for iOS4 in general. The only thing they changed in 4.3 were minor and sadly patching holes used by hackers so we can get our jailbreaks :P
And ralph, that is where i would release it... Apple doesn't like programmable emulators :/ or emulators in general.
If i had access to a mac I'd totally be able to work on it right now... But I don't. The only macs i work with are at school, and i tried to set up a virtual machine but it just got annoying. An
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Yeah there was a topic about it, right? It would be nice to have an emu for the iPod Touch. I remember when Eeems had limited computer access and no calc access at home. All he could use was his iPod touch. X.x
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Darn! I just upgraded to 4.2 unteathered. Now I have to reinstall my programs again. :(
(My first reaction was, "Wait, how could they have jumped from 2.5.5 to 4.3?" lol)
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The 1st real (this time) TI-84 Pocket.fr image!
Discover it on TI-Bank:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1001
Note they dropped the "Plus" in the model name...
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wow, that looks great! I wonder if TI included any "surprises" in it, such as half as much RAM, etc...
EDIT: lol, we finally have a TI-84
no =
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Huh? It looks like a normal 84???
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Yes, with a slightly smaller case, made possible mostly by the new arrow keys.
TI is even less imaginative than what you were thinking! :P
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Ah. So is it closer in size to a TI-34 multiview now?
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Are you wondering how big/small the TI-84 Pocket.fr is?
Just check the images!
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1004
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Nice! Now we won't need calculator holsters! I hope TI someday comes out with a pocket nspire, those things are so big.
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That's small. The LCD is the same size, anyway, AFAICT.
Pretty interesting, but if the only change is the size, it doesn't seem terribly worth it to me :/ (not to mention it probably only has 48KiB RAM).
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That's small. The LCD is the same size, anyway, AFAICT.
Pretty interesting, but if the only change is the size, it doesn't seem terribly worth it to me :/ (not to mention it probably only has 48KiB RAM).
I probably won't be able to answer you about the RAM before june.
By the way, you've got an HD image here:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1003
(just click on the link below the image)
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Wow that actually looks nice, but I hope they didn't change the hardware too much to the point of preventing even more ASM games to work.
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They'll probably make it more expensive.
I was wondering, is it possible to make a solar powered graphing calculator yet?
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Wow that actually looks nice, but I hope they didn't change the hardware too much to the point of preventing even more ASM games to work.
They'll change the OS signing keys just to screw with us.
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Well, I like the size of the Pocket :) They finally got it back to 1996 sizes (http://xkcd.com/768/).
The LCD looks really shiny. Does it have a glass cover over it now? That would be nice.
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This is not 84 Pocket related, but TI is definitively trying hard to push the TI-Nspire over other calcs O.O
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Consider Ti-Nspire???
Man, Ti's gone nuts. Lol.
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Indeed. This is insane. I mean, they offer the 84+, yet instead of promoting it they suggest ppl to buy another product.
Also lol I thought the 84+ looked better. On pics it seemed to look better, but I never got to see one outside its package in person until today. :P
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ANother thing I don't undertstand is why aren't the 68k calc on the back?
Probably the ti 84(+) market is doing too good, and the ti-nspire too bad..
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ANother thing I don't undertstand is why aren't the 68k calc on the back?
Probably the ti 84(+) market is doing too good, and the ti-nspire too bad..
They probably don't want to admit that the 68k calcs are more powerful than the Nspire. :P
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ANother thing I don't undertstand is why aren't the 68k calc on the back?
Probably the ti 84(+) market is doing too good, and the ti-nspire too bad..
I think it's because they're for a different kind of students. I doubt they would even be allowed in hi school over here. Notice how the CAS is missing from there too.
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What do they mean with: Pc software available?
Isn't there pc software available for the to 83 plus?
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What do they mean with: Pc software available?
Isn't there pc software available for the to 83 plus?
They mean an official emulator or something along those lines, I think.
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There's a computer version of the TI-Nspire OS.
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And how are 'normal' students supposed to know that :P ?
Anyway, happily 'Consider the Nspire' doesn't say on the back of the package of the Casio Prizm. ;D(I hope)
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Wait, there are "spreadsheets" on the TI-84 Plus Silver Edition? Or do they just mean it has CelSheet installed by default, but not other calcs? :P
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And how are 'normal' students supposed to know that :P ?
Anyway, happily 'Consider the Nspire' doesn't say on the back of the package of the Casio Prizm. ;D(I hope)
Yeah it's kinda unclear lately. Some ppl migth think it's just a linking software and TI makes it sound like the linkign software isn't even included with the 84+ (even though it is)
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Or do they just mean it has CelSheet installed by default, but not other calcs? :P
Yes.
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Here is it, finally:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1013
The TI-84Pocket.fr is just a basic TI-84+ with 480Kb archive, and the creepy 2.55MP OS. (hope we can still downgrade...)
Finally, the dimensions are 160 x 69 x 22 mm^3.
So we were quite accurate in the previous news, but note it's slightly smaller than the TI-80 (161x70 mm²).
I hope TI won't discontinue TI-84+SE in France, now...
Both french basic & SE 84+ pages are not accessible through TI-France links any more... :(
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I hope TI won't discontinue TI-84+SE in France, now...
Both french basic & SE 84+ pages are not accessible through TI-France links any more... :(
What, are they planning to replace it with the Pocket completely?
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TI France still has a page for the 84+/SE (same page for both) on their website, so I would guess that they are going to keep it, at lest for the time being...
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Yeah I checked yesterday and they were still there. I hope they doN't discontinue the 84+SE, considering some people like the extra archive. At least now we know that they're keeping the 84+ around in some ways, though, although they're going the "no-slidecase" way.
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TI sent me a brand new TI-84 Pocket.fr.
Check the photos, tests and informations on TI-Bank:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1176
To be short:
- as expected, it's similar with the basic TI-84+
- no miracle: only 48Kb RAM like all recent TI-84+
You might have been right with the 2.71MP OS.
The calculator includes a new 1.03 Boot Code. Remember that on TI-z80 Flash, the Boot Code only deals with the OS installation...
So probably some bad news very soon...
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I'm having trouble imaging exactly what they could wish to update. They can't change the OS keys without dividing their OS updates. The only thing I would want changed is to have the USB code for the boot sector on the 32 K sector, not a 64 K sector.
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Good to hear new info, not really surprising that there's only 48kb extra ram, thought it is a bit disappointing. I really can't imagine why they would update the boot code. ???
*edit* Just read the TI-Bank article. It looks really nice. I really like the compact size and styling, I am definitely interested in getting one. We can downgrade the OS on this model can't we? I think I'd rather have 2.43 on there than the new MP OS.
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Good to hear new info, not really surprising that there's only 48kb extra ram, thought it is a bit disappointing. I really can't imagine why they would update the boot code. ???
:P Bad signs coming.
So it still has OS 2.55MP?
But it actually looks really nice, and lol they advertise it as something you could fit in your pocket. You can do that with a TI-84 Plus XD
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*BUMP*
I haven't heard any news about this calculator in a while. Does anyone know if this thing been officially released yet?
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Well, I hope it comes out. It looks pretty sweet!