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Title: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: Spyro543 on May 08, 2011, 06:27:27 pm
Alright I've been looking at the Nspire Clickpad and I have a question.

The Non-CAS is $159  :o

The CAS is $63  :w00t:

Does the CAS have less features then the Non-CAS?

If not, why doesn't it cost as much as the Non-CAS?

Sources
CAS http://www.amazon.com/Texas-Instruments-NSCAS-PWB-1L1/dp/B000QSX9EK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1304892680&sr=1-3 (http://www.amazon.com/Texas-Instruments-NSCAS-PWB-1L1/dp/B000QSX9EK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1304892680&sr=1-3)
Non-CAS http://www.amazon.com/Texas-Instruments-TI-NSpire-Handheld-Calculator/dp/B000QSZD44/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1304819359&sr=1-4 (http://www.amazon.com/Texas-Instruments-TI-NSpire-Handheld-Calculator/dp/B000QSZD44/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1304819359&sr=1-4)
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: yunhua98 on May 08, 2011, 06:53:22 pm
As far as I know, CAS's, mathwise, can do everything a nonCAS can and more.  Programming wise, it's more limited.  However this doesn't explain why it's cheaper, since most of them don't care about programming...
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: Spyro543 on May 08, 2011, 06:54:15 pm
So the CAS would be a bad choice?
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: yunhua98 on May 08, 2011, 07:13:04 pm
If you want to be Ndless compatible, probably.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: Spyro543 on May 08, 2011, 07:16:05 pm
I'm not concerned about Ndless.

All I'm concerned about is some simple programming and to play games and try and run programs.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: yunhua98 on May 08, 2011, 07:24:15 pm
well, Both Nspire's programming is crippled with no input or getkey.  So none of the games will be very good except ASM ones ones which are only playable trough Ndless.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: Spyro543 on May 08, 2011, 07:41:30 pm
No input? At all? No INPUT? So that makes even math programs impossible to create!

I still want one.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: yunhua98 on May 08, 2011, 07:53:01 pm

you can create functions, so you set up the arguments, but definitely no really good games
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: Spyro543 on May 08, 2011, 07:55:15 pm
Like I asked on IRC, is the MLC available for this version of Nspire?
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: Lionel Debroux on May 09, 2011, 09:24:06 am
The Nspire CAS OS doesn't have the (incomplete) TI-84+ emulator provided by the non-CAS OS - but it has a CAS :)

Ndless supports the non-CAS OS and the CAS OS equally well.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: Silver Shadow on May 09, 2011, 01:05:53 pm
The Nspire CAS OS doesn't have the (incomplete) TI-84+ emulator provided by the non-CAS OS - but it has a CAS :)

Ndless supports the non-CAS OS and the CAS OS equally well.
Also note that the CX non-CAS version doesn't have the 84+ emu.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: Spyro543 on May 09, 2011, 01:11:50 pm
So I will be considering this CAS version. Thanks for everyone's help! And if Ndless is compatible with the CAS that's awesome
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: ruler501 on May 09, 2011, 01:14:26 pm
Why not just get the regular and load CAs on it if you need it. They have OSLauncher and a tutorial on how to do it.

I'm thinking about doing thta to mine so I can do some of the math it lets me do.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: JosJuice on May 09, 2011, 01:30:33 pm
Why not just get the regular and load CAs on it if you need it. They have OSLauncher and a tutorial on how to do it.

I'm thinking about doing thta to mine so I can do some of the math it lets me do.
Why not get a CAS (which is cheaper) and run the 84+ emu on it using OSLauncher?
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: Spyro543 on May 09, 2011, 01:44:49 pm
The reason I'm getting the CAS is becuase its cheaper.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: Lionel Debroux on May 09, 2011, 01:49:16 pm
Make sure it's not a Nspire CAS+ (prototype), though.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: ruler501 on May 09, 2011, 05:57:17 pm
When I look the CAS is more expensive. I know the CAS prototypes are less expensive but why would you want one of those?
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 09, 2011, 06:08:17 pm
Yeah normally the CAS is supposed to be more expensive. Remember, however, that there could be a catch: Maybe it's a CAS+ or one of the prototypes that tries to pass itself as a commercial model, which can't use commercial OS upgrades.

Also the CAS is banned from some math tests in North America.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: ruler501 on May 09, 2011, 06:11:28 pm
The CAS is banned and the PTT mode disables OSLauncher so there is no way to get a CAS clac into a test if the people check your calc and do what they're supposed to.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: Spyro543 on May 11, 2011, 03:18:18 pm
Well aparently there's a Nspire touchpad that's $108.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: Lionel Debroux on May 11, 2011, 03:27:56 pm
One thing to know is that according to Touchpad models owners, the touchpad is fairly imprecise, and can trigger spurious clicks.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 11, 2011, 04:00:24 pm
On the CX, I noticed there seemed to be some sort of imprecision too from Yunhua98 video. It seems the video is lagging, but in fact it isn't, but at one point you see the cursor moves accross the screen at like 4-5 frames per second.

Also I believe certain Ndless games won't work on Touchpad models, but maybe that was fixed.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: ExtendeD on May 11, 2011, 04:02:55 pm
Programs should be rebuilt with a recent version of Ndless 2.0 to work on Touchpad models, but I don't know the current state of the different TI-Nspire programs.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 11, 2011, 04:04:14 pm
Ah ok. I think one problem in particular was gbc4nspire. I think it was rebuilt for Ndless 2.0, but this version was never included on ticalc.org nor Omni downloads section so it can be hard to find.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: ExtendeD on May 11, 2011, 04:06:06 pm
Yes, this one isn't compatible yet.
I was working on a disassembler producing assembly files that can be directly rebuilt with GCC, to be able to maintain gbc4nspire without its original source code, but didn't have time to finish it.
Title: Re: TI-Nspire CAS Clickpad Question?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 11, 2011, 04:08:06 pm
Aah ok, sorry to hear :(