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Calculator Community => Other Calculators => Topic started by: Jonius7 on May 11, 2011, 09:37:59 pm

Title: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: Jonius7 on May 11, 2011, 09:37:59 pm
TI with theiir recent TI-nspire CX makeover have also given their website a neat makeover by displaying them in nice categories here: http://education.ti.com/calculators/downloads/US/Software/Search/
how nice and considerate of them!

However the problems emerged when i went to the ti-nspire section.
Where is the TI-nspire computer link???
Even worse when i went to the computer software section. EVERY single software was there except for ti-nspire computer link

I eventually found it thorugh an obscure link by finding it in google search results:

http://education.ti.com/calculators/downloads/US/Software/Detail?id=6772&ref=%2Fcalculators%2Fdownloads%2FUS%2FSoftware%2FSearch%2FResults%3Fcp%3D6001

Another fail by TI

EDIT: I should say that i was helping someone in my maths class upgrade their ti-nspire os when i couldn't find it
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: Yeong on May 11, 2011, 09:41:12 pm
good job finding it! :D
I was searching for that too O_o
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: ruler501 on May 11, 2011, 09:41:30 pm
TI is failing a lot lately. might they be trying to faze this out for the student/teacher software so you have to pay to connect to your calc
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: Jonius7 on May 11, 2011, 09:44:47 pm
possibly as they were promoting it unusally a lot throughout the website
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: ruler501 on May 11, 2011, 09:47:48 pm
Do you mean the student/teacher software by it? I don't go to the TI site much. only when I need software or OS's
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: Jonius7 on May 11, 2011, 09:57:25 pm
i don't go to the TI website often too, yeah i meant that they were promoting the costs-money software.
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 11, 2011, 10:15:20 pm
Bah now they're doing the same thing as they did with TI-Graph Link and TI-Connect x.x

I bet when the CX comes out, they'll purposely make everything else near impossible to find without Google.
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: Jonius7 on May 12, 2011, 01:58:33 am
Yeah but the thing that is different is that ti-graph link and ti-connect are listed under computer sofware (a billion versions of each) but TI-nspire link is NOT!

And btw where is omnom?
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: z80man on May 12, 2011, 02:25:58 am
It really is pointless to hide important software and promote paid apps. The user base is students and they will not pay for apps, nor would a teacher force a student to buy an app too. All of what TI is doing is screwing themselves because now they will get thousands of emails from students asking on how to send files to their calculators and they will just hurt their reputation even more than they already have.

BTW if TI ever cancels the 84+ my school's math department (school of 1800 students ;D) agreed to endorse the Prizm as the primary calculator that students must purchase after I compared the differences between the Prizm, Nspire, and Nspire CX. Because of this I might start labeling my projects with my real name because only 1 person at my school knows of me as z80man.
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 12, 2011, 02:39:02 am
Yeah but the thing that is different is that ti-graph link and ti-connect are listed under computer sofware (a billion versions of each) but TI-nspire link is NOT!

And btw where is omnom?
Nah I mean a few years ago, when TI-Connect 1.6 came out they hide TI-Graph Link somewhere where we could only access via Google and later if we knew the link, kinda like OS 1.7 and 2.0.1. At one point they did the same with certain calc models I think, to promote the TI-Nspire more.

Also OmnomIRC was disabled since it's under maintenance.

It really is pointless to hide important software and promote paid apps. The user base is students and they will not pay for apps, nor would a teacher force a student to buy an app too. All of what TI is doing is screwing themselves because now they will get thousands of emails from students asking on how to send files to their calculators and they will just hurt their reputation even more than they already have.

BTW if TI ever cancels the 84+ my school's math department (school of 1800 students ;D) agreed to endorse the Prizm as the primary calculator that students must purchase after I compared the differences between the Prizm, Nspire, and Nspire CX. Because of this I might start labeling my projects with my real name because only 1 person at my school knows of me as z80man.
Actually those apps aren't paid, unless you mean the student software. But yeah it's pointless to make some things that many people want so hard to find.

Also I'm glad to hear your school agreed to endorse the Prizm. Make sure that some good math apps are made to do things the 84+ can't, if needed. That will help even more, and if it's possible, maybe even stuff to bridge the gap between the TI-Nspire CX and the Prizm, so instead of the TI-Nspire they promote the prizm *evil*
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: z80man on May 12, 2011, 02:55:49 am
I just saw this on TI's website for the standard Nspire CX.
Quote
TI-Nspire supports the following image types: jpg, jpeg, bmp and png.

Now with the Prizm there are two models: the cg10 and the cg20. The difference being that the cg20 can load bmp images while the cg10 (for US testing requirements) cannot. Now if TI allows the CX to do so wouldn't they be voiding usage of their calcs on tests. If not, then what the hell Casio  :mad:
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 12, 2011, 02:59:50 am
I'm not sure really ???
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: z80man on May 12, 2011, 03:06:46 am
And once again another good reason to go Prizm route. I can see teachers having to deal with excesive amount of pr0n on the CX if TI doesn't do anything about it. But because teachers always get their ways TI will probably cancel that.
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 12, 2011, 03:08:11 am
But isn't there a different image format available on the Prizm? ??? Anyone could write a converter to make custom images. Not that it's widely available, though, since most students won't browse calc websites to download such stuff.
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: z80man on May 12, 2011, 03:14:12 am
But isn't there a different image format available on the Prizm? ??? Anyone could write a converter to make custom images. Not that it's widely available, though, since most students won't browse calc websites to download such stuff.
Yes it is possible to make an image converter or just an image opener that doesn't use g3p. And there is also g3b which is like an animated gif. It would probably be for the best if TI did the same because for education purposes pre-included images can be used to prevent pr0n. And then with people like us who get around these restraints, we're not the kind of people to start a pr0n issue. In fact I'd be very careful with any image converter software we make because we don't want it to get into the wrong hands and then cause Casio to release a new OS.
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: ruler501 on May 12, 2011, 08:46:54 am
Maybe TI is planning to have only certain images able to be loaded to the calculator without converting them to their format.
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on May 26, 2011, 02:31:50 am
But isn't there a different image format available on the Prizm? ??? Anyone could write a converter to make custom images. Not that it's widely available, though, since most students won't browse calc websites to download such stuff.
we're not the kind of people to start a pr0n issue.
What about Ashbad? O.O j/k  But yeah I agree, I think an image converter should probably just convert images in formats that can only be used for programming purpose, not just plain viewing with no coding knowledge.
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: critor on May 29, 2011, 04:35:23 pm
At last, I've got the answer:

Check here:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1133

The TI-Nspire Computer Link doesn't fully support the TI-Nspire CX.
So it must have been removed because TI has no plan to update it.

We'll have to use the TI-Nspire Computer Software 3.0.
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: calc84maniac on May 29, 2011, 04:38:57 pm
Whaaaaaaaaaaaa? How do we send stuff to our calculators then? TI-Nspire Computer Software has a link feature or something?
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: critor on May 29, 2011, 04:42:00 pm
Whaaaaaaaaaaaa? How do we send stuff to our calculators then? TI-Nspire Computer Software has a link feature or something?

You can send stuff using the TI-Nspire Computer Link 1.4.

But you cannot:
- install an OS
- make screen captures

You'll have to launch the "huge" Computer Software 3.0 (with a valid licence) in order to do that.
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: Levak on May 29, 2011, 07:52:10 pm
TI Nspire Computer Software is sold with the TI Nspire since TouchPad Version. TI is letting the ClickPad version orphan.
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: Jonius7 on May 29, 2011, 08:04:22 pm
Wait, so the computer software now comes with computer link?
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: Levak on May 29, 2011, 08:31:02 pm
Wait, so the computer software now comes with computer link?
No, but the Computer Software does exactly the same of the Computer Link since the v2.0
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: Ashbad on May 29, 2011, 09:09:11 pm
But isn't there a different image format available on the Prizm? ??? Anyone could write a converter to make custom images. Not that it's widely available, though, since most students won't browse calc websites to download such stuff.
we're not the kind of people to start a pr0n issue.
What about Ashbad? O.O




                          ;)
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: ruler501 on May 29, 2011, 10:19:49 pm
But isn't there a different image format available on the Prizm? ??? Anyone could write a converter to make custom images. Not that it's widely available, though, since most students won't browse calc websites to download such stuff.
we're not the kind of people to start a pr0n issue.
What about Ashbad? O.O




                          ;)
lol Ashbad use this software only for good purposes. No pr0n
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: JosJuice on May 30, 2011, 01:42:37 am
So now we have to use paid software if we want to send files to our calcs properly? What the hell, TI...
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: ruler501 on May 30, 2011, 08:40:06 am
Now we have to use TiLP or the crappy paid software
Title: Re: TI-nspire Computer Link move to obscure location
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 06, 2011, 07:45:02 pm
THis sucks. I hope that they at least provide a free permanent version of the other software if they decide to merge both comp link and student software. It will suck for old TI-Nspire owners if they have to pay extra money to send files to their calc if they ever lose their copy of the computer link software...