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Title: TI Reddit
Post by: NanoWar on August 31, 2011, 04:35:40 pm
To pop each ti community's bubble full of cool projects, ideas and news I thought, why dont we open up a subreddit for all that is important. Whenever there is a contest or a major breakthrough in ti development you could post (or link) your news there instead of posting it in every ti forum you know. I happen to forget quite a few topics, so a subreddit would be ideal to hang around in the community without checking every single source. It could be like tcpa in slow mode :) .

I found this to be a good start: http://www.reddit.com/r/tiNews/

What do you think? Are you willing to contribute?
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 31, 2011, 10:31:10 pm
I wouldn't mind if that was around as long as it is not for the purpose of stealing activity from forums or to compete against already established calculator websites. In other words, we could post important stuff there, but still continue to cross-post it on forums we frequent as well, kinda like back when www.ti-news.net was still around (it fetched news from many sites). Back in the days I usually checked TI-News first for updates.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Juju on August 31, 2011, 10:54:36 pm
Personally, I never really use Reddit, although it's an interesting idea.

I also might start something like ti-news.net too.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 31, 2011, 10:59:05 pm
I wonder if it's possible to create some sort of bot or something that would relay news from various calc sites (providing the site webmaster permission is asked)  on Reddit then have a permalink to the site in question? The issue though is that certain news on the respective sites aren't always calc-related.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Lionel Debroux on September 01, 2011, 02:04:14 am
I never use Reddit either (though IIRC, I created an account and several posts after TI's illegal attack on the distribution of signing keys), but I liked TI-News as long as it was up.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: NanoWar on September 01, 2011, 06:15:42 pm
That's the idea. You liked Ti-News, but actually you had like readonly permissions. This would be different on Reddit. It's everybody's Ti-News.

Of course you could still post in forums and then link to it.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 01, 2011, 06:28:57 pm
Actually on TI-News we could post news on the front page, but most people just bookmarked the conglomerate, so that didn't help. An everybody's TI-News would definitively be cool.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 01, 2011, 07:54:12 pm
I also might start something like ti-news.net too.
I'd been thinking about that -- why don't we have a service that grabs feeds from all these sites (anymore, apparently)?
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 01, 2011, 07:56:30 pm
Well since Reddit might also reach people from outside the TI community, maybe we could just have bots that fetch news from respective sites and post them there, along with people posts?
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Juju on September 01, 2011, 08:08:56 pm
I also might start something like ti-news.net too.
I'd been thinking about that -- why don't we have a service that grabs feeds from all these sites (anymore, apparently)?
I'm trying something on http://news.omnimaga.org/.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 01, 2011, 08:32:00 pm
Hmm that seems nice. It would definitively be best to ask each site admins' permission though. In 2003 when TI-News re-opened MaxCoderz got the MC feed taken down because they fetched their news content without their permission, then it was re-added later after an agreement with Kv83.

Also for the non-Reddit conglomerate, maybe it would be good to include Casio sites too, instead of just limiting it to TI calcs.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 01, 2011, 08:36:51 pm
I also might start something like ti-news.net too.
I'd been thinking about that -- why don't we have a service that grabs feeds from all these sites (anymore, apparently)?
I'm trying something on http://news.omnimaga.org/.
Whoa I love the theme!

On the other hand, would anyone find problems with hosting this on a particular forum community? I had been thinking of something like this being hosted on a site like ticalc.org, since nearly all of their news is from other sources anyway. Or Reddit would work, since nobody's using it yet (but didn't someone suggest a http://www.reddit.com/r/ti a few months ago?).
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Yeong on September 01, 2011, 08:39:01 pm
woah. It looks nice. :D
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Eeems on September 01, 2011, 08:39:07 pm
Juju that looks great! For sure though ask permission though.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 01, 2011, 08:47:38 pm
I also might start something like ti-news.net too.
I'd been thinking about that -- why don't we have a service that grabs feeds from all these sites (anymore, apparently)?
I'm trying something on http://news.omnimaga.org/.
Whoa I love the theme!

On the other hand, would anyone find problems with hosting this on a particular forum community? I had been thinking of something like this being hosted on a site like ticalc.org, since nearly all of their news is from other sources anyway. Or Reddit would work, since nobody's using it yet (but didn't someone suggest a http://www.reddit.com/r/ti a few months ago?).
Yeah it would kinda make sense if the domain name was like news.ticalc.org or community.ticalc.org (although then it would mean no Casio news). Else, any sub-domain we got that don't include another calc site name in the URL, such as tinews.57o9.org or something like that. Maybe just an entire new domain too, although that would cost extra money. Something like calc-newsD0Tnet, calcnewsD0Torg, calcnewsD0Tcom or even calcneD0Tws would be good.

If the URL looks like calcnews.cemetech.net, calcnews.omnimaga.org or stuff like that, some people might look upon it or think it's biased towards one site in particular even if it isn't meant to.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 01, 2011, 11:09:06 pm
Exactly my thoughts. news.ticalc.org was my original idea, but I'm wondering if they'd be able to monitor it. Maybe have it hosted somewhere here, but with the ticalc.org subdomain?
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Juju on September 01, 2011, 11:19:20 pm
I don't know. Do they still offer subdomains?
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 01, 2011, 11:42:29 pm
I dunno, but tict.ticalc.org and the others are still up.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Eeems on September 02, 2011, 01:34:22 am
Someone could ask tev (TravisE) about it
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Lionel Debroux on September 02, 2011, 04:04:06 am
I'll call tev, nikky and chronomex on that topic :)

But nope, mha does not seem to open new subdomains anymore, even for simple static HTML pages. Maybe the policy has changed recently, we'd have to ask him ;)

EDIT: on #ti, chronomex reminded me of his http://tiz80.com/ and http://ti68k.com/ domains. After creating a free account, you can have up to 5 subdomains or Web forwards.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: tifreak on September 02, 2011, 09:49:22 am
I, too, would love to see it on ticalc.org.

We could always throw it at TI-Freakware :p I have so much space and bandwidth not being used it isn't funny, and it is quite non-biased.

Also, I'm seeing a very disturbing lack of news posts from TI-Freakware in that list :< Epic sadness.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: NanoWar on September 03, 2011, 06:10:18 am
I think the ticalc news front page and news.ticalc.org would overlap in funtion and lead to confusion. Actually any subdomain would be less suited than a normal domain. Has anybody got additional domain name "space" that we could use? I know from my own hosting (the ones I administrate) that you often get like 4 domain names or so that can link to different internal folders = on one server.
Maybe ti-news.org? And people from all over the community could get access to the frontpage.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: tifreak on September 03, 2011, 07:12:55 am
I still have an unused domain, plus I have all the name.tifreakware.net link ups I could want. (Well, looks like I have 86 left, but still :p)

Heck, I would be happy with http://ticalc.org/newsfeed to access a ti-news.net type of community news system.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Ashbad on September 03, 2011, 09:03:29 am
If tifreak is willing to host it on his place, I think that may actually be the best bet.  His community is non-biased (unlike Omnimaga, cemetech, UTI, ticalc, etc.) and plus maybe he'll get more traffic :).  It wold be nice for people to frequent the non-biased TIFreakware more often.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Juju on September 03, 2011, 11:32:52 am
Yeah a real domain name is better.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 03, 2011, 12:49:42 pm
THe only concern I have about tiz80 and 68k domains is: Does the site have to be related to z80 calcs only for z80 domains and 68k for the others? The thing is with a new TI-News, which would be Calc-News, we wanted to push things further by also including Casio news.

I think we need to continue the trend Omni started that Cemetech joined later which involves uniting the Casio and TI community more.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Deep Toaster on September 03, 2011, 01:30:23 pm
Yeah, that's another problem with the tiz80 and ti68k domains -- they imply they're only for a small family of calculators.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: TravisE on September 03, 2011, 08:53:53 pm
From what I remember from last time the conversation about ticalc.org subdomains came up, there were no plans to open new ones due to the time and effort involved. The big concern from people like Magnus had to do with potentially large amounts of work involved on a system for not enough gain, especially when any non-static content comes into play.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on September 03, 2011, 10:48:17 pm
Yeah the thing is that a site like TI-News, while attracting new people to ticalc.org, might also make people who are busy visit ticalc a bit less often to check news, thus, seeing archives less.

In any case, I think a TI-News-like site should only display like the first 200 chars of each news article or something and have commenting disabled. A "Read more or comment" link would redirect to the site article in question.
Title: Re: TI Reddit
Post by: Lionel Debroux on September 04, 2011, 03:12:29 am
tev: well, dynamic content was not in the proposal I drafted on on UTI (http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=9477) after the discussion on #ti (cross-linked from Omnimaga (http://ourl.ca/6906) , Cemetech (http://cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4944) , yAronet (http://www.yaronet.com/posts.php?s=135456) and TI-Planet (http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5944) formerly TI-Bank) and sent to mha, Cc nikkys & travise & duncans, by e-mail ;)

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In any case, I think a TI-News-like site should only display like the first 200 chars of each news article or something and have commenting disabled. A "Read more or comment" link would redirect to the site article in question.
+1 DJ.
The goal of TI-News-type sites, or the opening of new subdomains of ticalc / TI-FW / TI-FR / etc., is to help, without diverting users from the main sites.