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zcontest basic judges headquarter
« on: December 03, 2011, 06:43:06 am »
Here is the place for the basic judges.


Here's the list of judges :

- YeongJIN_COOL
- Le solutionneur (responsable/chief)
- parser padawan
- epic 7
- matrefeytontias
- llylud

Discussion between the judges should be here.

Remember, you should not publish results before refering to deeph or myself.

But you can give your opinion, talk about programs... :)

Be sure to post here, deeph and myself don't want to look in all the forum of the world to find you :p
Of course, asm and hybrid team judges categories topic are not here (cemetech and yaronet).

There's one "chief" for this team : Le solutionneur.

You will find the final archive containing all the basic project here : http://david.nathalie.perso.sfr.fr/zcontest/
Rules are enclosed in the archives.

Let's time to works judges !
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Re: zcontest basic judges headquarter
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2011, 08:06:55 am »
Good luck all judges : I'm myself judging right now.

First :
-absolute madness is too slow on 83 plus calculators
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Re: zcontest basic judges headquarter
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2011, 08:23:54 am »
Me too, and I see that many people didn't include a readme and no any rules >_<

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Re: zcontest basic judges headquarter
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2011, 09:02:53 am »
Me too, and I see that many people didn't include a readme and no any rules >_<
What do you mean with rules?


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Re: zcontest basic judges headquarter
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2011, 09:10:16 am »
I said that in nearly 20 zip files, I saw 8 readmes.

EDIT : the rules of the contest say that we <b>must</b> include readme
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Re: zcontest basic judges headquarter
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2011, 09:22:59 am »
Sorry for the double post, but I change of subject  ;D

I tested 3 games, and they are all sloooooooooow ...
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Re: zcontest basic judges headquarter
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2011, 09:29:10 am »
D: Good luck BASIC programmer?!

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Re: zcontest basic judges headquarter
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2011, 09:30:30 am »
No, they're REALLY slow
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Re: zcontest basic judges headquarter
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2011, 09:37:08 am »
It is TI-BASIC after all XD

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Re: zcontest basic judges headquarter
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2011, 09:38:09 am »
Yes of course, but I have already seen faster Ti-Basic programs  ;D
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Re: zcontest basic judges headquarter
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2011, 09:56:38 am »
I've tested the worms and it's very fast, the mountains generation is good, there is high plains and some high mountains.

This one has included the readme, and the game itself is great : you can for example fight against IA or play with IA : you can have 2 IA in your team and 1 human player.

You can also ask IA to fight themselves against themselves.

Best worms as far !
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Re: zcontest basic judges headquarter
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2011, 11:22:05 am »
I saw that while judging you have to also judge this: "-Life : /5"
What is meant with Life?


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Re: zcontest basic judges headquarter
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2011, 11:39:45 am »
I saw that while judging you have to also judge this: "-Life : /5"
What is meant with Life?
That category equates to what I'd call "replayability."  Basically, after you finished the game do you want to go back and play through the entire game or parts of the game.

Also, since I'm posting in here, I figured I'd say a couple of things about speed:
-absolute madness is too slow on 83 plus calculators
I'd argue against that.  For one thing, it was programmed on a TI-83+, which proves that it's ultimately playable on it.  I believe the question you guys need to ask is "do the amount of features a program has justify its slower speed."  For instance, Midnight has quite a few features if I do say so myself, but it's also pretty sluggish.  Remember that this is TI-Basic, after all, and that speed is something that will hamper most programs.

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Re: zcontest basic judges headquarter
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2011, 12:23:34 pm »
Lifetime is maybe the right word for "Life":
- How long to finish the game (longer is, best it is)
- How hard is the game, the difficulty is not too hard, not too weak (it's also a part of the "gameplay")
- Does it sufficient easy to give the possibility to finish the game?

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do the amount of features a program has justify its slower speed
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I've tested the games that they are talking about and, I was _not_ surprised by the relative slowness. Because each time I've played it, I was asking how each part was done, and I know how it's hard to simply "move a sprite, test collision, print a background and move some ennemies" quickly. In fact only move a sprite with keypress handling + handle ai require to loose the most part of the speedness.
But probably all the games will be slow in basic. Only simple games could be speed.

But in other hand, I understand that basic programmers should not add to much functionnality to keep a good gameplay.
And I understand that judges could be a little annoyed by this, even if they completely respect the incredibles programmation skills of the authors.
(Which is the case of the games we are talking about !)

 



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Re: zcontest basic judges headquarter
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2011, 01:26:37 pm »
Worms land is great o_O

Fast, beautiful ... he's a good chance for the contest !
« Last Edit: December 03, 2011, 01:26:48 pm by Matrefeytontias »