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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2014, 04:49:07 am »
Did you just swap the palette by the way ?

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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2014, 05:31:03 am »
Those are pretty nice! :D

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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2014, 08:35:20 am »



EDIT: One in xLIBC colors below:




And what the intro could look like with such sprite set in xLIBC format:


EDIT And now the monsters! :D (of course originally ripped from Final Fantasy I through III or so, except the spark one, converted to 3-lv gray then Art converted the result to 4-lv. This color set is based on Art's 4-lv recolor)



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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2014, 09:47:09 am »
I like those sprites. They look really NES-like
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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2014, 09:47:54 am »
Reminds me a lot of the NES final fantasy games.
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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2014, 11:10:54 am »
Did you just swap the palette by the way ?
Yeah, kinda like in old Final Fantasy games (or even some PS1 RPGs). I had to change certain other colors, though, such as eyes. Else, I usually just did Find/Repace color. And yeah I tried to stick to xLIBC colors in case the game was ever ported to the CSE. It would be the first RPG to ever get released for that calc (some RPGs like Mana Force 1 run on it but they were made specifically for monochrome models years ago, some before the original 84+ even came out).
Those came out pretty nice! It's funny that they went from colour, to 3 gray, to 4 gray and then back to colour again. :P
True, if I could find from which games in particular each sprite came from, I should post the sprite sheets just to compare how the colors were laid out at first. By switching to 3 shades of gray I usually lost a lot of information, so it must have been hard to switch to 4 shades of gray.

At least now you know what the weird looking enemy was supposed to be :P (spark/energy ball)
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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2014, 11:31:39 am »
Most 84+ games won't work on the CSE, I thought.

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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2014, 11:33:30 am »
iirc Basic games that use only homescreen-based graphics still work
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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2014, 01:11:54 pm »
Those came out pretty nice! It's funny that they went from colour, to 3 gray, to 4 gray and then back to colour again. :P
True, if I could find from which games in particular each sprite came from, I should post the sprite sheets just to compare how the colors were laid out at first. By switching to 3 shades of gray I usually lost a lot of information, so it must have been hard to switch to 4 shades of gray.

At least now you know what the weird looking enemy was supposed to be :P (spark/energy ball)

Ask and ye shall receive! Most of these sprites you used are from Final Fantasy II and III. Instead of converting from 3 level gray to 4, I found the originals and re-converted them to 4 level gray. So it wasn't hard at all. :P For the missing ones, I think i found a few of them as well and did the same. I don't have the source for them though. A google search should be able to pull it up fairly easily anyways. These attachments are from the Spriter's Resource, which is a excellent website for sprites and reference. :D

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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2014, 01:37:24 pm »
Some of those sprites do indeed look oddly familiar :P

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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2014, 10:29:00 pm »
Those came out pretty nice! It's funny that they went from colour, to 3 gray, to 4 gray and then back to colour again. :P
True, if I could find from which games in particular each sprite came from, I should post the sprite sheets just to compare how the colors were laid out at first. By switching to 3 shades of gray I usually lost a lot of information, so it must have been hard to switch to 4 shades of gray.

At least now you know what the weird looking enemy was supposed to be :P (spark/energy ball)

Ask and ye shall receive! Most of these sprites you used are from Final Fantasy II and III. Instead of converting from 3 level gray to 4, I found the originals and re-converted them to 4 level gray. So it wasn't hard at all. :P For the missing ones, I think i found a few of them as well and did the same. I don't have the source for them though. A google search should be able to pull it up fairly easily anyways. These attachments are from the Spriter's Resource, which is a excellent website for sprites and reference. :D
Oh ok I thought you actually did it manually. I wondered how much time you had spent doing this lol. As for the original sprites I think that some were actually parts of wall tiles that kinda formed monster-like shapes, so you might have gotten an harder time finding them :P

Hence the many credits to Square, Taito, Enix, Nintendo, etc in the readme (actually Reuben 2 also used Metroid, Lufia and Dragon Warrior monster sprites)

THe hardest part honestly for me was to convert them to 3 shades of gray. Doing it with 4 shades would have been easy, but with 3 shades you lose a considerable amount of details if you just make both dark and light gray the same tone. You can't just use a 4 shades of gray converter.

EDIT: Here are the Reuben 1 and 2 2004-05 monster sprites, with some ROL3 art mixed in.

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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2014, 02:26:21 am »
Crude 160x120 rendering of Reuben battles, missing several elements. Of course this just re-uses old but colored tiles and an extra menu inspired from the papyrus logo in the Reuben 1 readme:



And updated sprite sheet



Now that I think about it, if such game was made it would be a crazy amount of graphic data with all those monsters O.O
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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2014, 07:57:19 pm »
It would be awesome, though.

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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2014, 02:04:27 am »
It's pretty nice! I should update my PC version with the color sprites.

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Re: Some Reuben Quest art (new and old)
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2014, 08:05:03 pm »


This is probably how Reuben 1 xLIBC appvars would look like. Such game would require heavy switching between picvars, because one appvar is 128x64, meaning that Reuben 1 would require 4 of them (and only two can be loaded at a time). The game would take 32768 bytes of archive just for sprites.

I edited Art's Reuben overworld sprites because his were 8x9 and I wanted to save space in the sprite sheets, plus if such tilesheets were used in an actual xLIBC game, a 8x9 walking sprite could eventually cause speed and collision problems. Some monsters were also resized to avoid large empty gaps in sprite data.
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