Omnimaga
Omnimaga => Site Feedback and Questions => Topic started by: yunhua98 on July 24, 2010, 10:11:02 pm
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Do you guys think it's a good idea to add "from the Omnimaga Community" or something similar to readme's or descriptions on programs from Omnimaga members? This could gain us new members. :)
EDit: Is this in the right section? ???
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I would've personally put it in Miscellaneous or calc-related, but it's up to the admins, not me ;D
I'm not sure if it's necessary, we already have an active community, but I'm not sure if that counts as advertising, which isn't allowed x.x
I'll think about it and vote later.
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I don't really think it's advertising since it's like saying you made it, but instead you say a member of Omnimaga made it as well. idk, but seeing as so many other programs have something similar, I just thought we should to. ;)
Or we could put in the readme, if you have any problems, please report at Omnimaga.org.
Hang on.. I'm going to add that option.
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I voted for that one, though I think you should add a Netham version of it too :P
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lol ok. XD
Technically, everyone can do whatever, but this is the only way I could tell everyone about it. And I don't know if I should, so my decision will likely be influenced by the results.
EDIT:150th POST!!!
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btw, you should've allowed us to change our vote so I could change mine to the lobster version :P
* calcdude bugs an admin to change his vote to the lobsterized version ;D
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I did allow change of votes, didn't I?
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Personally, I've always put a reference to Omnimaga in all my programs including the readme.
Usually on the title screens, credits, etc.
I see nothing wrong with it and no one has said anything about it. (Then again, I was staff forever.)
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I don't see this as advertising, I see it more as a "this was made with help from the community"/"An Omnimaga Production". Not blatant advertising, just saying you made it "at" Omni.
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I think its a good idea. Its not advertising, and would get more members.
I'm all for including "Netham45 is a Lobster", though :D
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No, we can't change votes on this poll :(
As for the advertising, yeah, I guess everyone else is right. So, change my vote to the "Yes, but lobster" option, or better modify the poll to allow changes.
Will include in next program! (Though only in the README, I wouldn't actually insert it in the program :P)
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I voted yes (but Netham45 is a lobster).
I would definitely mention Omnimaga in my programs' readmes, not only as where it was developed but as a place to contact me at.
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So we currently have a 7:3 pro vs against, and i changed the poll to allow people to change their votes :)
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Hmmm, I think that in readme's it would always be fine to have some mention on Omni in it or something. Like a "A Omnimaga Production" or something like that (probably something we as a community would agree on) and then for in game stuff I would reserve that for projects that are bigger or something. Hopefully that makes some sense.
I voted for that one, though I think you should add a Netham version of it too :P
We need a Netham45 version of everything :P
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No, but Netham45 is a lobster. Period. It's going to be up to each individual to decide. I personally don't see it as a necessity, but I'd probably mention Omnimaga in the "Thanks" section of my readme files.
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I put 'A project for omnimaga' in my first (and only) project since I became a staff member. I'm developing roguez80 (partly) for omnimaga, so it just felt right to mention it.
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Maybe if the game / program is a community-driven project. I wouldn't really include a logo in my projects; but I do include "Omnimaga.org" in the credits, since project discussion is hosted here. I pretty much try to include any person or site I got any additional help or advice from, as well.
Although, I'm sure "Ragnarok Development TI" exclusively links back to Omni in Google searches, anyway. :P
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I have mixed feelings about this. 1. Advertising... not always cool to have, but very helpful. 2.n00b members like me who get over excited about their programs, upload them, accedentally have all who downloaded the program, RAM CLEAR. then we might be a little infamous. 3. Nathalm is a lobster... 4. New members would be nice.
cool Zera 1 more post to 500. :D
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I think it all depends on how the advertising is done. But on a whole i am for it. I myself have a 'company' logo i always put up my games (Angle Productions) but i think adding in Omnimaga.org into the credits would we not only acceptable but a great idea for people who want learn more about the game and possibly even report bugs or reviews.
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i agree with builder boy i myself have a logo of HappyBobJr Productions.
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cool Zera 1 more post to 500. :D
Hah. I didn't notice that.
w00t! 500 posts now. :P
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cool Zera 1 more post to 500. :D
Hah. I didn't notice that.
w00t! 500 posts now. :P
Congrats! You've officially spent too much time here. :D
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I have over 700 ;D
On topic, changed my vote to "Yes, and Netham is a lobster" option. :P
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w00t! The lobster one is winning :)
18 Yes to 6 No. The Lobsters shall soon dominate the world!
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ok, cool!
I think I'll do something like that the next time I feel like uploading a program! :P
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we could have an omimanga logo (in axe).
then when the program starts we could have
.ProgramHere
[pic1]->pic1
pic1->DispGraph
pause 5000
Rest of code here
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The only problem with that is now every program is almost 800 bytes larger x.x
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68k C programs have options for a set of "program comments" at the top, which are accessed by "some shells", according to the documentation. One of those is a 16 by 16 icon (either black and white or grayscale).
Not sure what 89 shells would use the icon, but at least it would be in the source code (of those few 68k programs developed on Omnimaga, that is). Maybe I'll put it in mine.
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I'm ok with staff having the logo and stuff if they want, and references in their readme, same with forum members, although yeah, I'm a little more leery of new community members because if they accidentally start off overzealous they could tarnish our name. Although if they want to give a thanks to the community or something that would be cool :)
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I suggest different levels of advertising for different levels of programming prowess.
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Personaly, I've always thought that the Omnimaga logo and the mention of "Omnimaga Productions" inside games/programs should be reserved for staff, but mentioning Omnimaga in the readme (possibly as a place where to find help about the program) should be for anyone.
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How about showing a brief little screen? :)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1016340/OMNI4.8Xgrp
This is a TI group file - inside are OMNIAXE (compiled AXE program, use Asm( to run), OMNILOGA (AXE program source), and OMNILOGO (Basic program/source).
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How about showing a brief little screen? :)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1016340/OMNI4.8Xgrp
This is a TI group file - inside are OMNIAXE (compiled AXE program, use Asm( to run), OMNILOGA (AXE program source), and OMNILOGO (Basic program/source).
Can you upload them individually by chance? The group isn't working for me.
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Change the extension to .8xG, and it should work.
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@meishe91: Sorry, I should've done that in the first place.
OMNIAXE: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1016340/OMNIAXE.8Xp
OMNILOGA: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1016340/OMNILOGA.8Xp
OMNILOGO: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1016340/OMNILOGO.8Xp
Note: The AXE version of this logo doesn't have the animation. Does anyone know how to fix it?
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Its fine, thanks for doing that. It's pretty neat.
Change the extension to .8xG, and it should work.
It still didn't ???
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Personaly, I've always thought that the Omnimaga logo and the mention of "Omnimaga Productions" inside games/programs should be reserved for staff, but mentioning Omnimaga in the readme (possibly as a place where to find help about the program) should be for anyone.
Well, that depends. If the author got quite a bit of help from Omnimaga, then I would say use the logo.
However, I do agree with you. something should be set aside just for the staff to use.
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IMHO:
1) I always thought that putting the Omnimaga logo in your game to say it was made by Omnimaga should be reserved for Omnimaga admins and coders of Tomorrow, but I don't mind if regulars say something like "A game by an Omnimaga member" or "by NICKNAME, an Omnimaga member", or the URL of the site. MY concern is that many people would join the bandwaggon and we may end up with newbies releasing their newest number guessing game or quadratic solver under our name, tarnishing our image. For regular members, I think if they use the Omni logo, there should be an indication that they are not Omnimaga staff. Another issue is that the download section is reserved for staff (except the RPG section), so it would be odd that many Omni programs are missing from our downloads section.
2) If you are going to include Omnimaga logo, I think it should be made right. I like the image above, but I would prefer that either people just use regular Omnimaga or OMNIMAGA alphabetical letters or use the same logo as in The Reign Of Legends and many of my games made around 2006. Let's keep some uniformity. I'll post a string file (8xs) that contains the right characters to make the logo, later.
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Do you just mean a program that has the correct symbols saving to a string? I could do that real fast if you'd like. I just still have that Rick Roller's of Tomorrow program still on my calculator and it'd be an easy edit to just have that. Just thought I'd offer :)
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Yeah I mean the same symbols as in the Omnimaga logo in my sig (well, except the pi symbol, which is a bit shorter on calc than in the logo, but you get the idea). Feel free to edit it if you want.
I wonder if those special chars are useable easily in Axe, tho?
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EDITED, PLEASE REFRESH IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN MY EDIT!
@DJ Omnimaga: 1) I usually think of the logo as a flash animation logo. The animations would link to the website where you can find others.
I really doubt someone would put Omnimaga's logo on a quadratic formula solver though.
I think the opposite - someone who has made a great program would place it, and then others would come here and see the great stuff.
It's more of a "hey everyone get games and more here" type of thing. Quite frankly, no one in my school knows what Omnimaga is.
If you are really that worried, you can set up something like OmniGames.com and host selected community stuff there, while maintaining a separate divide from
this site. Maybe toss in something secret so that if a serious person does end up on that site, they would be redirected here. :)
As always, putting a logo isn't forced, just something someone feels like doing.
2) No worries - that can be easily fixed! :) But of course, it's your call on whether we should use the actual logo or just ordinary letters.
@meishe91: Yes, that would be great! :D
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Ah ok. And I have no idea. I think someone made a the RRoT program in Axe but I never saw it in action, don't remember who it was. You'd probably have to ask Quigibo.
As for the program here it is. It just saves the tokens to a string (Str1 or Str2, not sure). In theory the file should work, I had to change the name because A.8xp was already uploaded somewhere already. If it doesn't work though just tell me.
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Nah I think I would prefer to keep everything in one site. Maybe later I could open the archives for other people, though. Just as long as people don't make it sound like a game was made by Omnimaga staff, to not confuse people. That said, it could bring more people on the site, though, especially if the URL is included.
Also it looks like for Axe format, the logo would need a different way to display the chars :(. See screenshot below
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That's weird. When he provided the individual files it worked just fine with the correct tokens.
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Well it's because his files didn't use the greek tokens. The greek tokens are probably mapped differently in ASM than in BASIC.
In BASIC to access them I just used the Francais app
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Yeah, for ASM you get to use the characters directly, rather than through two-byte tokens.
But support isn't there for it yet, so you'll need to type in the string as hex.
Instead of "omnimaga->Str1 (or whatever string you used), use [C76DC4D76DBB67BB00->Str1
That should correct the issue.
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Is that hex string the one for my string or is it for yours?
I think it would be nice if Quigibo included a charmap for Axe programmers willing to use 2 byte tokens
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It's to replace the faulty string in the Axe program.
Yeah, it would be nice to add support for all the two-byte tokens, rather than just the lower-case letters.
However, if you just need the hex for a character, you can use
http://future_history.freehostia.com/Files/Resources/ASM/ASMin28Days/img/lgfont.png (http://future_history.freehostia.com/Files/Resources/ASM/ASMin28Days/img/lgfont.png)
which is at http://future_history.freehostia.com/Files/Resources/ASM/ASMin28Days/ref/lfont.html (http://future_history.freehostia.com/Files/Resources/ASM/ASMin28Days/ref/lfont.html)
Edit: Changed the picture to a link because it was too large.
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I'm not sure what you mean by faulty string x.x
Is it some sort of ASM code/technique that enables the usage of 2 byte chars fine?
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The string in the Axe program you screenshotted that displayed wrong. Sorry for any confusion.
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Oh ok. No problem
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@DJ Omnimaga: I still think that it shouldn't be a problem. "This and many more from..." doesn't really sound like "This program is by...". I usually think of newgrounds.com and the flash animations that are submitted. Sometimes, they have the website logo in it to show people the website, but it isn't considered to be staff created.
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We need some sort of quality control, though, lest the newcomers think Omnimaga is a site dedicated to creating quadratic solvers in Axe :P
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We need some sort of quality control, though, lest the newcomers think Omnimaga is a site dedicated to creating quadratic solvers in Axe :P
Although we specialize in quadratic solvers in Axe, we also write them in BASIC, C for the 89, C for the Nspire, Z80 ASM, ARM9 ASM, and 68k ASM. ;)
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Has anyone created a quadratic solver in axe yet?
It should be grayscale and implement tilemapping. ;D
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Has anyone created a quadratic solver in axe yet?
It should be grayscale and implement tilemapping. ;D
That would be awfully hard without floating-point integers implemented ;)