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Ads for Internet Explorer users
« on: April 17, 2010, 12:29:50 pm »
Mhmm, I had an idea for a while: when someone browse the forums using Internet Explorer, he would see ads. The ads I thought about were just a string of buttons like this:

Spread Firefox Affiliate ButtonOpera, the fastest and most secure web browserHowever, I couldn't find an official Google chrome or Safari button that are useable on external sites to promote those browsers, and I would like to include them without having to use a massive one and without getting in trouble for copyrighted content. If they ever make one I wonder if this could be an idea to convince IE users to switch? I would also ad a small text below the ads telling "Using another browser will allow you to browse Omnimaga with no ads!"
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Re: Ads for Internet Explorer users
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2010, 01:06:32 pm »
well...ummm you could just define the sizes for them and they will appear small...I'll do some searching though
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Re: Ads for Internet Explorer users
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2010, 01:08:02 pm »
I could always resize them and host them, but idk if it would be against their rules. As for using the large images and resizing them with HTML, the issue is text will look crappy x.x
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Re: Ads for Internet Explorer users
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2010, 01:14:20 pm »
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"Using another browser will allow you to browse Omnimaga with no ads!"

I don't know if I would use this as a selling point. It's like you're coercing them to use another browser.

Is there a reason why you want your viewers to switch? I mean, if the site is incompatible with IE, or something, then mention that.(i.e, "Site is best viewed with Firefox or Opera," or "Some site features not compatible with IE - go upgrade!")
« Last Edit: April 17, 2010, 01:15:13 pm by Zera »
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Re: Ads for Internet Explorer users
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2010, 01:18:17 pm »
ah true...
hmm, I can't find any smaller versions...although crashie.com might have some..
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Re: Ads for Internet Explorer users
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2010, 01:46:28 pm »
Quote from: Zera on April 17, 2010, 01:14:20 pm
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"Using another browser will allow you to browse Omnimaga with no ads!"

I don't know if I would use this as a selling point. It's like you're coercing them to use another browser.

Is there a reason why you want your viewers to switch? I mean, if the site is incompatible with IE, or something, then mention that.(i.e, "Site is best viewed with Firefox or Opera," or "Some site features not compatible with IE - go upgrade!")
yeah the issue is the site not being compatible with IE. At the bottom of page we got a warning saying "Best viewed in Opera, Firefox, Chrome and Safari with a resolution of 1024x768 or above."  but I still get complaints about stuff not working well in IE. I just tell people to switch to Firefox/Opera because IE just plain sucks at rendering sites, but it,s annoying to have to tell them all x.x. Making this more visible would make it easier for people to know we have no plan to spend endless time and effort trying to make this site compabible in a browser that won't even pass the Acid3 test at 20% and fails at rendering some of the most rudimentary CSS.

At least it's not bad like making IE users be redirected to another site when they open Omnimaga, that would be much more rude. With the ads, at least, they can still browse the site and use some of its features.
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Re: Ads for Internet Explorer users
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2010, 01:49:34 pm »
speaking of Acid3 my ff gets 92% with ad block on, but 94% with it off x.x I wonder what other scripts are making it not work completely right...
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Re: Ads for Internet Explorer users
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2010, 01:54:05 pm »
Yeah I noticed Firefox won't pass the test x.x. It passes it pretty close, though. Chrome/Opera passed it at 100 IIRC
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Re: Ads for Internet Explorer users
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2010, 01:58:15 pm »
hmm, wierd...oh well, for me it's probably because of some of the addon's that I use that make me lose 6 points
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Re: Ads for Internet Explorer users
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2010, 03:00:04 pm »
IE have the, somewhat stupid (although useful to fix its damn bugs) and probably proprietary, "conditional comments".
Using them to solve the problem is something like:
<!--[if IE]>
<div class="IEclass">
<img scr="getfirefox.png" /><img scr="getopera.png" />
</div>
<![endif]-->
this will only be displayed in IE.

More things about this: http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/cc2.shtml
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537512%28VS.85%29.aspx

By the way, Chrome is also a nice one. The 3 are all good and I like some features in each of the 3.

I prefer to say to users to use the latest browser version. IE8 is quite decent if is in standards mode activated by a doctype, I think.
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Re: Ads for Internet Explorer users
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2010, 03:12:54 pm »
Acid3 uses some pretty obscure and questionable standards. 100% is really just a bragging right that has no substantial meaning, IMO. Although, it's unquestionable that IE just sucks at everything. :P

If IE is experiencing major, site-breaking incompatibilities, I would just go ahead and redirect to an "Go upgrade!" page. I know it seems kind of rude, but there may be no other solution than to use a different browser. Alternatively, you could include a link that enables the user to view the site at their own discretion, bearing in mind that some elements might be broken.

Edit: LOL, someone actually voted my respect down because of that previous post. Did I offend IE users? :P
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Re: Ads for Internet Explorer users
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2010, 03:14:47 pm »
The main issue is that OmnomIRC fails in IE, I believe.
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Re: Ads for Internet Explorer users
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2010, 03:16:55 pm »
Yeah. Oh well I'll just do what I want I guess cuz I don't see why Zera would have such an issue with ads showing up for IE users unless he's a IE fanboy.
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Re: Ads for Internet Explorer users
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2010, 03:29:57 pm »
Quote from: Netham45 on April 17, 2010, 03:14:47 pm
The main issue is that OmnomIRC fails in IE, I believe.
Is the problem in the AJAX? For IE the object for AJAX is another one, but that seems too simple for not fixing already...
Maybe if you use some JS library that works across browsers. (I don't like libraries because I prefer writing my own lib)
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Re: Ads for Internet Explorer users
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2010, 03:31:46 pm »
Omnimaga works in IE8 perfectly once you activate "compatibility" mode.
I'm OK with having ads, but not with a page redirection which is pretty rude.

EDIT: and also, I don't like much the idea of forcing people to change browser just to not see the ads anymore. People should use browsers because they want to, not because they are forced to do so. And also, why such hatred against IE? I've always used it and it works fine.
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