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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2011, 08:52:01 pm »
get a new theme!



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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2011, 08:54:49 pm »
Hm I kind of like the omni theme.  There's the older ones too, tho v5 (current default) is the best one imo :D

(iirc there was going to be a 10th anniversary one, idk if that's happening or not)
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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2011, 09:28:06 pm »
I personally hate the default SMF and IPB themes, so we're most likely not gonna get those. Also I feel pretty offended by the way your comment was put, considering the amount of work I put in the five themes installed on Omni (although the 2006 remix was partly made by master jc). You might like the 2.5 theme though, which is selectable on the main page.

Also Darl181 I don't think you want a 10th anniversary theme. If we had something themed to 2001 Omnimaga colors it would be pretty much like the colors in my avatar O.O

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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2011, 09:38:18 pm »
Hmm... how...
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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2011, 02:49:38 pm »
By the way for the rating system, I thought about something that e-mails you when one of your post gets rated down and it reaches a negative value, telling you to double-ckeck your post in case it might be breaking rules, and that system would have flood control so it only notifies you once per 6 hour or so, in the case of a rating system vandalism. However I think this might cause too many misleading e-mails caused by people who accidentally downrates a post instead of uprating it, because they clicked the wrong icon.

So I was wondering instead if it would be very hard to code a new forum section that lets you list which of your own posts have negative ratings, only visible to the post author, kinda like the post attachment list. It would obviously link to each post. In addition to that, on forum pages somewhere it could display if you have posts that are rated down and to check them in case.

Moderator access would be welcome for such feature too I guess, in case a member reports a vandalism attack then moderators need to check.

The other solution would be to download the SMF 2.0 rating mod and modify it for SMF 1.1.15, but that might be a lot more work, not to mention that version has creepy-stalker features that could potentially start fights (such as the ability to know who exactly rated your posts down)

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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2011, 02:51:48 pm »
Also Darl181 I don't think you want a 10th anniversary theme. If we had something themed to 2001 Omnimaga colors it would be pretty much like the colors in my avatar O.O
Lol..that would be intersting.

Hmm... how...
If there were some way to include RFGUM integration, so it would be easier to update userbars, that would be nice. Like have a RFGUM lite widget that automatically adds your userbars to your sig or something.
btw, RFG is by an omnimaga member and is linked under the Misc section ;)
« Last Edit: September 27, 2011, 02:52:46 pm by Darl181 »
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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2011, 02:54:58 pm »
On a side note I have tried a 2001 themed Omni before, around 2006 I think. I even have some of the images, IIRC. It was definitively terrible. Also in 2007 I think we used a different banner/logo for one week during Omni anniversary, which included my avatar, and the Omni logo was pretty similar to the one in my avatar, although the fonts were different, especially the N

EDIT: Darl181 here's a preview of what a 10th anniversary theme could have looked like >.< http://z15.invisionfree.com/missiletest/index.php (Unused 2006 theme)
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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2011, 03:28:36 pm »
ya, i downrate half the posts i try to uprate :/
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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2011, 03:32:34 pm »
I personally hate the default SMF and IPB themes, so we're most likely not gonna get those. Also I feel pretty offended by the way your comment was put, considering the amount of work I put in the five themes installed on Omni (although the 2006 remix was partly made by master jc). You might like the 2.5 theme though, which is selectable on the main page.

Also Darl181 I don't think you want a 10th anniversary theme. If we had something themed to 2001 Omnimaga colors it would be pretty much like the colors in my avatar O.O

I'm sorry about the way I put that comment, I was in a hurry. :S



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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2011, 03:56:30 pm »
I know some people criticized some features, such as the rating system, so I need to know what we could do to improve Omnimaga so it would be more friendly and more drama-less. Any ideas are welcome.

Thanks.

- Lowering OmnomIRC posting limits, from like 40 to 5; maybe it'll bring out more trolls, but it'll stop alienating newcomers into thinking they're just stupid noobs who must be trolls, and perhaps will get out of the mindset that mass posting to get more posts at expense of content == bad.

- Let sarcasm go a bit more freely, I must say that it's painful that you get warned for cracking a snide remark.  That in itself is rather alienating.

- post rating system--

- Spam topic opens up to newcomers at 5 posts rather than 100 (why would it ever be that high?  If you want to keep a thread secret, why not a "secret stuff" sub forum?)

- Techniques against drama spreading techniques, like advising people to take drama to PMs, and give warnings/bans if people flame publically time and time again?

- Rules against posting private logs in public, without permission of all involved parties.

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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2011, 04:13:00 pm »
1) OmnomIRC post limits used to be 20 and it only caused problems. The current setup is also insecure to be set this low, due to lack of proper ban/anti-bot system. I also do not see any problem with people being alienated into thinking they're noobs or automatically labelled as troll. Also I do not see any issue with mass posting. After all if someone spams he gets warned, anyway, and his post count can be reset to 0 (which we did not have to do so far)

2) No. Omni was meant to be free of hostility and this is why many people come here instead of other sites. I created Omnimaga because people were tired of lack of respect at other places, so at least they had one alternative. It's not going to change anytime soon (we tried in 2009 and people threatened to leave). If you don't like forums where you cannot purposely offend people, go elsewhere. This is something that will never change.

3) This is being discussed, but removing the post rating system completely will increase trolling, as it did before it was instated in 2009. Basically, no post rating system == forced to re-instate the nDoom policy.

4) It's set to 100 posts, else it made people like BOB! stick around more, and we don't want a secret sub-forum, because it will be a pain to manually setup 1000 forum members to be able to view it one by one.

5) Quite ironic you would suggest that considering most of the public drama starting was by you. Besides, public drama rules already exists anyway, I saw Qwerty.55 and Eeems enforce them often before.

6) IMHO you shouldn't try to hide stuff. Rules against posting logs in public are only when the person is trying to hide something wrong he did. IMHO if you do something wrong, we should not be forced to hide it in attempt to protect you.
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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2011, 04:17:41 pm »
2) K, whatever, it kind of discriminates on more people than you think.  Your guy's decision though.

5) aren't you breaking that rule right now, for explicitly causing drama when not needed?

6) Well, let's say *you* were the one at fault, and someone posted every private thing you've ever said.  Would *you* like it?  All it does is increase drama.

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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2011, 04:20:44 pm »
2) Has been around for half a decade. Sure, it makes certain people like Kllrnohj not join, but that's our decision to not allow such comments. As I said, if you don't like it, why do you even posting here anymore? I'm thinking about starting a petition to force you to leave Omnimaga forever or get you banned, because i'm fucking sick to death of you, who come on Omni for the sole purpose of ruining my life and mental state.

5) Well I guess you are right on that one. The problem though is that you do everything to make me mad. Doing everything to make me mad on purpose == trolling

6) This happened before, and while it was a bit frustrating at first, then I realized I deserved it.

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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2011, 04:20:44 pm »
...out of the mindset that mass posting to get more posts at expense of content == bad.

I agree with this. Whole-heartedly.

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Re: How we can improve Omnimaga?
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2011, 04:21:08 pm »
Well as I said BlakPilar, we had no problem with mass posting so far.