Omnimaga
Omnimaga => Site Feedback and Questions => Topic started by: Sorunome on November 08, 2012, 11:47:38 pm
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This is a act to save omnimaga. To get more people here, to stop the decrease in activity.
I thought about quite a few things what to do, i am already working on a ti basic tutorial on some other rather popular website and am (of cource) linking omnimaga.
I also thought of making some general omnimaga video to inform people what omnimaga is about.
I think _Nicco_ is making a stop-motion dis-assembling of a calculator.
Just think of anything and link omnimaga to it, we do everything, that way we could hopefully get more people here and increase our activity :D
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The tutorial seemed quite nice so far. Another thing someone suggested back in 2009 or 2010 ({AP} I believe) was calc games reviews on Youtube, like IGN does. It would definitively take time for people to test games and also someone who don't mind talking on the mic (not me).
Of course we had a tiny boost in activity since last month but more would be better in long term (especially to go through slow summers).
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The calc games review thing looks like a good idea : I released a sort of a trailer for my Jetpack 8x(+) game a few months ago, now it has 2300 views. It can be great for Omnimaga's reputation
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I can make a simple compilation of some GIF calc game animations in blender. no clue when that wuold be finished tho.
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Maybe another sort of tribute video? Kind of like the axe parser vid in 2010, but releases in every calc language.
(maybe it could be a quarterly/semi-annual thing? idk)
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Well I could make the video itself, but DJ_O would have to create music.
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I thought of making some sort of series like the Angry Video Game Nerd or its French counterpart the Joueur du Grenier, but with calcs. That would be pretty cool.
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Well I could make the video itself, but DJ_O would have to create music.
Maybe you could re-use some of my old tracks as well? Just make sure to not make the sound too loud, though.
Also reviews would have to be based on calc standards. Eg not going and saying Joltima is absolutely worthless because it lacks grayscale and scrolls every 2 pixel instead of 1 . We have to remember that each platform has their own limitations and if any review is negative it should at least point out legit flaws.
There could be a monthly calculator test as well.
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I should do this linking thing...
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Well if you send me the calculator I'd be happy to test it, lol.
/me runs
As for tracks, you would be the best one to choose what tracks I could use since I obviously do not know what's in every track and thus do not know which tracks fit best.
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What do you mean by linking? (By the way I totally discourage anyone from ever doing any private message-based advertising on other calc sites or even blatant public advertising. That is bad netiquette and can even backfire)
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/me takes back what he said beforehand
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Well, linking at the end of a relevant article or tutorial is pretty encouraged, but you would not want to spam the link where it's unneeded (such as what DJ said).
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I wonder, would it be good or possible to create a YouTube channel for all of the videos.
Currently, if somebody finds a calculator video on YouTube, they might subscribe and watch the other videos on that channel.
But they probably won’t find all of the other great calculator videos on YouTube.
So if all the videos were on one channel, and there are about one new one ever couple of days, but one each channel maybe every couple of weeks, any subscribers would get to see every video, instead of having to search for the different channels.
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You would have to get everybody who creates videos about calculator related things in on it. The main issue is that a lot of people who make the vidoes are also members/staff of other sites. They would be unlikely to want to put their vidoes on a channel advertising our site and not theirs. Also, some people can earn money off of youtube, so they would want to put their videos on their own channel and maximize their income.
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I know that DJ has for the most part been uploading tribute videos and such to his own youtube channel. But, if we really wanted a dedicated channel to our own, we could always create a new gmail account specifically for omnimaga videos, and then link it to a new official youtube channel.
Furthermore...
*Builderboy runs off to revive an old thread*
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What this community needs is a really great game or tool. Maybe if for every popular platform a group of good programmers would work together to create a really awesome program, we can get more new people interested in programming them. So basically we have to show the world how powerful calcs really are.
But this is just a suggestion. I don't know at all how good/bad it will work
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I'm busy with college apps right now, but once first semester's done I'll be sure to finish some of my old games!
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I know that DJ has for the most part been uploading tribute videos and such to his own youtube channel. But, if we really wanted a dedicated channel to our own, we could always create a new gmail account specifically for omnimaga videos, and then link it to a new official youtube channel.
I really like this idea. I know that I'll try to make more videos once I get a hold of some more calculators and it would make sense if others made calculator videos for omnimaga to put them on a single channel. Kind of like the channel that xda developers has for android devices.
EDIT: Here is the video that I made,
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I know that DJ has for the most part been uploading tribute videos and such to his own youtube channel. But, if we really wanted a dedicated channel to our own, we could always create a new gmail account specifically for omnimaga videos, and then link it to a new official youtube channel.
Furthermore...
*Builderboy runs off to revive an old thread*
A new channel would be total suicide I think, because most people who subscribed to mine would not be willing to resubscribe to a new channel. All the vids I uploaded under my xlibman account had 15000+ views, yet when I reuploaded them on my new channel, the view count resetted to 0 and I never ever got close to 1000 views for most of them.
Also on xlibman I averaged around 1900 views a day with less than 100 videos, none of which had more than 40000 views. On DJOmnimaga, only two of my songs made it past 10K and my entire channel averages at 300 views a day with 250+ vids (down from 600 in 2009-10)! Maybe I am doing something wrong with SEO, though or it's due to the Youtube redesign/search engine results restructure...
IMHO if you make videos you could upload them on your account and add Omnimaga to tags and the URL in description and maybe even title, and I continue uploading calc vids under my own when I do any. Then if I have motivation at one point I can add your calc vids to my playlists if you pm me the linksWhat this community needs is a really great game or tool. Maybe if for every popular platform a group of good programmers would work together to create a really awesome program, we can get more new people interested in programming them. So basically we have to show the world how powerful calcs really are.
But this is just a suggestion. I don't know at all how good/bad it will work
Well it would probably have to be a solo programming project or a team project where only one person does any coding and the spriter is really commited to the game. Otherwise team projects have a long history of failures in the TI community compared to solo projects.
Also recently I noticed that all the staff except one or two (JustCause doesn't count, thanks to North Korean parental regime) started posting consistently again somewhere other than the Minecraft section, which is a good thing, since the team looks more active and caring. On certain former TI forums I remember that sometimes, only one or two staff had made posts in the last year or so and on other large boards, I even noticed sometimes that none of the staff had 2000 posts nor made it to the top 10 posters. I was kinda worried last Winter before the 2012 restructure of Omnimaga when like 4 or 5 CoT members had fewer than 3-4 posts within the last month or so.
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You would have to get everybody who creates videos about calculator related things in on it. The main issue is that a lot of people who make the vidoes are also members/staff of other sites. They would be unlikely to want to put their vidoes on a channel advertising our site and not theirs. Also, some people can earn money off of youtube, so they would want to put their videos on their own channel and maximize their income.
Just wondering, how many or you people would be willing to let your videos be hosted on a new channel. If it were only one or two of you, then this wouldn’t be all that helpful.
But if it were more of you, then this would be good.
Also, would this be just for helpful calculator videos and new program videos, or all calculator videos, because 3 of the 6 videos on my channel are unhelpful, but somewhat interesting, calculator videos. And the video above isn’t exactly helpful, but it is hipster.
And probably none of us use YouTube for money, so I think if we had an omnimaga logo before each video, and then either your name or logo or nothing, and a link to your channel in the description, people would still get the respect or fame that they deserve.
A new channel would be total suicide I think, because most people who subscribed to mine would not be willing to resubscribe to a new channel. All the vids I uploaded under my xlibman account had 15000+ views, yet when I reuploaded them on my new channel, the view count resetted to 0 and I never ever got close to 1000 views for most of them.
I guess you’re right, although I don’t know how many of us get very many views.
It seems like when I look around for calculator videos, they mostly get only a few hundred views, may be a thousand possibly.
In my mind at least, it seems like putting a bunch of hundred to thousand view videos on one account would let others who watch one video to be exposed to all the rest of the videos.
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Well, the DJOmnimaga channel is still kinda popular among the community. He often posts demos of calc games.
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That is the problem. All the new channels will only be known to the community.
So we'd need a channel that is more in a other community to get the attention to here/me pokes at his yt channel
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I thought of making some sort of series like the Angry Video Game Nerd or its French counterpart the Joueur du Grenier, but with calcs. That would be pretty cool.
I'd like to try doing this. If I do this, should I make a new youtube account for it (which is discouraged above) or just use my current one? I could make a new episode about once every week, featuring a game or program created/finished/worked on that week.
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You could possibly use your current one, but if it has like 2-3 subscribers and your vids gets like 1 view a day or less, then I guess it doesn't matter.
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What would I call the show?
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You could possibly use your current one, but if it has like 2-3 subscribers and your vids gets like 1 view a day or less, then I guess it doesn't matter.
look for yourself and decide if it matters :P
http://www.youtube.com/user/sorunome
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I was replying to Spyro543 :P
Although now that I see that all you got is K'nex stuff, it might be kinda of a gamble. I noticed once that when I posted a calc video after posting a bunch of music ones, I lost one subscriber and when I started posting music again after a long series of calc vids, the same thing happened. In your case, you only have one type of video, so your subscribers are mostly K'nex fans. Maybe they won't like to see their subscription list get flooded by unrelated vids. It doesn't hurt to try, though, and if they are annoyed at you then they don't really deserve your recognition anyway.
I like this. :D I wonder though if it wouldn't be a better idea to double the framerate?
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well, i was thinking of *one* vid and i already uploaded a c++ vid and i didn't lose subbers
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Well that's good to hear, although I wonder what would happen if you posted like 30 calc vids in a row. But again I doubt your subscriber count could affect views that much if it changes by 1 or 2. Just make sure to title your video properly (have TI-84 Plus as early as possible in the title and maybe 83 Plus as well if that fits) and use tags with the main keywords first.
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I like this. :D I wonder though if it wouldn't be a better idea to double the framerate?
Like this?
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I like this. :D I wonder though if it wouldn't be a better idea to double the framerate?
Doubled the framerate. It does look better and it doesn't take so long to end.
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awesome :D
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Very nice. :D Also the music fits pretty well. :)
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Yeah especially the sliding part in the beginning.
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One option is to make a new popular calculator game, the next nDoom.
Unfortunately with the increased popularity, we will attract many trolls.
Another approach is to try to bring in hardware enthusiasts from the maker movement. We might try to encourage modding or creating devices for the link port. (I don't know how well that would go with the standardized test folk.)
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I made some peripherals for the 84+, but I work on another project now which is not calculator related.
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One option is to make a new popular calculator game, the next nDoom.
I would have figured the gba emulator was that
Also, completely unrelated to the above post, I was answering some calculator questions on yahoo answers and came across a bad idea that sounded cool at the moment
What if there was an omnimaga yahoo account, and any member could answer questions
To my knowledge there are four accounts that answer a lot of calculator questions
Rhombicuboctahedron—he gives really good answers :)
TI ET—Texas Instruments one, helpful sometimes, but boring, and, of course, never ndless related
Empire539—He gives really good ti 83/84 answers
Mickaël N—Same old visit tibank answers
This would probably never work, and might be a waste of time, but since we were discussing tutorial videos on YouTube, and since six heads are better than one, and because the answers may be so good that they click on the little omnimaga user name and find a link to this website, and because two of the four users above are merely for their own benefit so why not add a third, it seemed like a good idea at the time.
This forum can answer any thing better that yahoo can, but not everyone likes to click on links to other websites asking them to ask it there.
And I since all the downloads are easier to find on tiplanet, I only ever link to there, so I might actually be dropping visitors to this site.
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I'm in favor of a new youtube channel that way we can start the fanbase from scratch. While people from omni will undoubtedly know about it, outsiders might look and see that the channel not only has a lot of subscribers but views as well and therefore would subscribe as well. I also think that we should all work on a large project collab and post stuff like project updates on that channel. that way there will be activity on both youtube and here when people want to find out more about projects. Calc game reviews are also a good idea. Ticalc.org has a lot of games and that's where people from here and cemetech and other communities post to gain more downloads from the comunity in general. But, however we also need to make use of our own archives therefore more people will come here to download games instead.
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If that happens, though, there would need to make sure to be ways so that most Omni users who see this topic subscribe. Also I doubt it would be a good move to re-upload every old video because they will never get the amount of views they had when they were initially posted. But it would definitively work if there were a bunch of calc reviews and if people in charge were commited to keep it alive.
And yeah another move would be that most Omni users post links to their files (or upload them directly) in the Omni downloads section. Gbc4nspire has like 5000 downloads there, after all. Having the files attached in posts just won't cut it, because those topics get buried underground when new ones are posted.
http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;cat=44
One option is to make a new popular calculator game, the next nDoom.
Unfortunately with the increased popularity, we will attract many trolls.
Another approach is to try to bring in hardware enthusiasts from the maker movement. We might try to encourage modding or creating devices for the link port. (I don't know how well that would go with the standardized test folk.)
Well for the trolls, I guess staff can just temporarily bring back the nDoom policy during that activity rush and the months at risk (Late Fall, Early June and mid-Summer). Basically temporarily replace official warnings with temporary bans and have criticism of forum/IRC moderation be a bannable offense. Most of the time when a zergtroll rush occurs, though, it's people from (an)other calc site(s) bickering about how we handle it who causes the largest amount of damage than the rush itself, though.
EDIT: Wait... did I really say zerg instead of troll? O.O
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Are we going to end up making a Youtube channel after all?
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I'm working on it right now. I'll mainly do game and utility reviews, probably ones that are being worked on a lot/are quite popular.
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I'm working on it right now. I'll mainly do game and utility reviews, probably ones that are being worked on a lot/are quite popular.
What is the channel name so that we can subscribe?
Quick question, will we send you the videos to upload to the channel or how is that going to work?
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It would be nice if at one point some older games reviews (mainly Omnimaga's) were done as well.
As for sending videos would it be some sort of team channel like there was for Music 2000 once? I remember that multiple people had the password, but that can be risky if too many people who are very new got access.
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Well, what could happen would be that you have a few “administrators” with the password, maybe start out with _Nicco_ and Spyro543 uploading whatever videos they find necessary, and then if someone else makes a review they want on it, then they email it to one of them and it gets posted, and if you start sending more and would like to have a password and they trust you, then they give it to you.
However, what types of videos would it have? Only calc tutorials and showcases, or music too, or random calc videos? Of course, the administrators could decide that.
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It would be nice if the channel had playlists, such as one for reviews, one with maybe tribute videos (including other channels), major breakthroughs or general vids that makes Omni news or on other sites. If someone ever starts Let's Play videos then that could be added as well.
Also it would be nice if that channel kinda remained unbiased towards/against languages, game file size (unless unreasonable like Swordmasters) and stuff like that, kinda like Omni.
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I'm really bad with coming up names. What should the account be called?
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Why not call it omnimaga, though that might sound too much like the dj omnimaga channel
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OmniReview?
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OmniTube, OmniTV, TheOmniTimes (New York Times), TheOmniSource (because it'll have video resources), OmniGeneral ( General info), and I ran out of ideas.
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I like OmniTV. Sounds more legit to me for some reason.
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OmnimagaCodersOfTomorrow
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I like omniTube
And if you choose that, i think the channel picture should be something like this, but better.
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Should we have a poll with the different names to figure out the name that we should have?