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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2013, 11:59:31 pm »
^True. Only use this style for pony threads or roleplay.

Plus I've never really saw a correct translation for "everypony" et al. in French.

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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2013, 05:35:19 am »
I'd say nopony, everypony, somepony and anypony would translate to aucun poney, tous les poneys, quelque-poney and quelque-poney que ce soit in French. :P
And yeah I agree with you that it shouldn't be abused.

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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2013, 09:19:08 am »
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2013, 09:21:58 am »
I think it looks fine. It takes up hardly any space.

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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2013, 01:54:47 pm »
By the way, I wonder if it would be possible for people to not abuse the words "anypony", "somepony" and "nopony" in calc/programming/help topics and preferably non-humoristic ones too? I don't really mind if those words appears in some rare occasions (such as until a few weeks ago), but if you start using them in every sentence like recently, then this causes the same problem as people who use poor spelling: Google translate totally butchers those sentences (making it much harder for our foreign members to dechiper posts). Besides, we prefer that our members try to use good spelling, proper punctuation and grammar if they know how, so I guess it would also be a good idea to not deliberately mispell words either. :P

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French: Quiconque utilise une bonne grammaire devient plus grand respect de tout le monde et personne ne va regarder quelqu'un pour cela.

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English: Anypony who use good grammar gets higher respect from everypony and nopony will look upon somepony for this.
French: Anypony qui utilisent la grammaire devient plus grand respect de everypony et nopony se penchera sur somepony pour cela.

As you know, Google Translate already has some troubles translating stuff properly, but at least in the first sentence, French people can understand. In the 2nd sentence, it sounds more like text from an adult MLP fanfic featuring grammar fetishes.

to everyone: keep in mind that there are no rules against post contents apart from those which are blatantly illegal or intentionally (hurtful|damaging) as listed here. thus, if you feel uncomfortable using other pronouns (or saying/not saying anything else), feel free to go ahead and act how you want. however, if you have no particular (affinity for a certain unconventional|aversion to a conventional) phrasing, it is generally good practice to express yourself as clearly as possible, both for your own sake (getting your point across) and for the sake of others (them understanding you). again, this is just a piece of advice (and would be equally as helpful if applied to real-life interactions).
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2014, 08:28:16 am »
I bump this thread - not to yell at somebody (once) - in order to exchange with an option I've just found in my profile settings while disabling the "send email notification for each topic replies" :

You can disable the user's signature in Layout > "Don't show user's signature".

Even if I'm not fine yet with some people's signature showing their wild immaturity, I'm fine with this option.
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2014, 08:33:13 am »
Ah, I've been browsing Omni with that option for a while now ^^

I'd have done the same for the avatars, but only a minority bothers me, and after a while you get used to recognize people just by glancing at the side, so... hiding them wouldn't be so good anyway
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2014, 11:01:11 am »
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You can disable the user's signature in Layout > "Don't show user's signature".

I use that for sigs and avatars. I personally don't like the ponies but I think its a personal choice and shouldn't be banned. I do wish there was a restriction on the size though, because big sigs are annoying when you have to keep scrolling down... Mine's only like 15 pixels high.
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2014, 11:21:38 am »
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You can disable the user's signature in Layout > "Don't show user's signature".

I use that for sigs and avatars. I personally don't like the ponies but I think its a personal choice and shouldn't be banned. I do wish there was a restriction on the size though, because big sigs are annoying when you have to keep scrolling down... Mine's only like 15 pixels high.
There is currently a size restriction. When we notice someone with a signature that is too large we ask them to resize it. If it is still too big we resize it for them.
Even if I'm not fine yet with some people's signature showing their wild immaturity, I'm fine with this option.
Maybe you should be a little less rude about how you word that? Some of the members may take offence with you calling them wildly immature.

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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2014, 11:27:12 am »
Even if I'm not fine yet with some people's signature showing their wild immaturity, I'm fine with this option.
Maybe you should be a little less rude about how you word that? Some of the members may take offence with you calling them wildly immature.

Less rude or less realistic ? I cannot close my eyes (well, its what I'm doing by disabling signatures) on such a thing.

Liking MLP is a fact, flooding and spamming it in every sig is more like a troll or immature thing.

Thus, I hope being rude can make them wake up. I'm not demanding them to change, but if they can understand they are annoying people, it will be a good thing for them.
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2014, 11:37:46 am »
Even if I'm not fine yet with some people's signature showing their wild immaturity, I'm fine with this option.
Maybe you should be a little less rude about how you word that? Some of the members may take offence with you calling them wildly immature.

Less rude or less realistic ? I cannot close my eyes (well, its what I'm doing by disabling signatures) on such a thing.

Liking MLP is a fact, flooding and spamming it in every sig is more like a troll or immature thing.

Thus, I hope being rude can make them wake up. I'm not demanding them to change, but if they can understand they are annoying people, it will be a good thing for them.
May I point you to http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=2 and strongly remind you that we will enforce them.

Putting it in your signature is not considered spamming, if they were to fill their signature with dozens of images then that would be spamming. So far all I've seen is one image in their signature and their avatar. Which is not spamming.

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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2014, 11:44:32 am »
Thus, I hope being rude can make them wake up.
Then many people will hate you for being rude and the message won't pass in the way you intended. You should wake up as well, I think it's definitely not the right way to pass a message.

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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2014, 12:05:37 pm »
The only problem, though, is that only you is whining publicly about this the way you are. The other members who hate large sigs just warn the users directly (or in private, since I saw huge sigs mysteriously shrink down with no one publicly asking them to modify them) and when doing so, they do not attack anyone (in your case, indirectly) telling them they're immature.

Also Levak, before accusing people from being trolls, you should maybe look at yourself. YOU are the troll for the following reasons:

-For trying in every way possible (at least, since the last 6 months or so) to ruin Omnimaga friendly atmosphere.
-For trying in every way possible to start fights with other members by being rude on purpose
-Trying to get a reaction from other people by posting controversial (or controversially-written) messages to make them angry or leave the forums (eg, Stefos)
-Harassment (eg, always jumping on me, although you stopped it seems, or stefos)
-By denying the fact you are actually being rude (at least per Omnimaga standards) and that way, acting like you are perfect, throwing the blame on everyone else (example: your post right above)
-For breaking the forum rules on purpose:
  *Flaming (calling people names or insulting them, such as calling them immature)
  *Intolerance (insulting someone or an entire group of people for liking MLP, colored sigs, being gay, black, etc, or a calculator RPG for being larger than 5 KB and 1 file, for example)
  *Provocative comments (trolling, being confrontational, being rude or anything else that can make people angry)


By being rude, you will only be seen by Omnimaga members as a hater, troublemaker or... ahem... immature member, and they'll ignore you (and eventually your projects) more and more. In fact, a forum feature to ignore all posts by specific users is coming soon, when the site upgrades. I'm sure some people will like it.

Also this is Omnimaga, not TI-Planet, TIBD, Cemetech, Ticalc, MoHPC nor Calcg. Just because a certain level of rudeness is allowed elsewhere doesn't mean it is here, so don't use the excuse that you don't find something rude for using it here.

Besides, admins and staff know their job when it comes to oversized sigs. They'll warn the person (which they seem to have done with one specific sig recently, as it myseriously shrank down in size even if the user is clearly not the type of person who would take the initiative to do so by himself) and a good way to complain about large sigs is to PM the admins about it (or use the post report function, which is faster).
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2014, 12:08:10 pm »
May I point you to http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=2 and strongly remind you that we will enforce them.

I still do not see why using appropriate words is considered "provocative". Even being rude is not provocative, its just a matter of using a different style. I've read along the rules twice before posting it the way I wrote it, trust me. Call it language barrier if you want, I don't have other words to describe my pain.

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While you may find it annoying you still do not have the right to be rude or provocative to members of this site. If you have complaints about specific individuals then submit an issue on http://ourl.ca/issue and if you have a request about our policy or changing how the site works use http://ourl.ca/request

You won't hear any request from me if, as you wrote, a single 200*200 image in a sig is considered as spam.

It seems we have different point of view. I personally see a forum-sig as an e-mail sig.
Thus, it is at miles away from what the netiquette says :
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    - If you include a signature keep it short.  Rule of thumb
      is no longer than 4 lines.  Remember that many people pay for
      connectivity by the minute, and the longer your message is,
      the more they pay.

The reason why I post it publicly instead of demanding it (not requesting, I know my English) via PM/email, is that I first want to see if I'm not the only one around here thinking there is abuse everywhere. Since abuse is everywhere, nothing is preventing people to stop, and nothing is encouraging people like me to complain, since even admin are thinking everything is normal.

Since nothing is willing to move, I won't fight endlessly, so I disabled user-sig, that's it.
And don't tell me I want to "drive the administrator choice" and "make my own law", I'm just saying things without ornament.
May it please you or not, things have shown that I'm not the only one thinking what I've said.

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Also Levak, before accusing people from being trolls, you should maybe look at yourself. YOU are the troll for the following reasons:

-For trying in every way possible (at least, since the last 6 months or so) to ruin Omnimaga friendly atmosphere.
-For trying in every way possible to start fights with other members by being rude on purpose
-Trying to get a reaction from other people by posting controversial (or controversially-written) messages to make them angry or leave the forums (eg, Stefos)
-Harassment (eg, always jumping on me, although you stopped it seems, or stefos)
-By denying the fact you are actually being rude (at least per Omnimaga standards) and that way, acting like you are perfect, throwing the blame on everyone else (example: your post right above)
-For breaking the forum rules on purpose:
  *Flaming (calling people names or insulting them, such as calling them immature)
  *Intolerance (insulting someone or an entire group of people for liking MLP, colored sigs, being gay, black, etc, or a calculator RPG for being larger than 5 KB and 1 file, for example)
  *Provocative comments (trolling, being confrontational, being rude or anything else that can make people angry)

Okay, goodbye world.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2014, 12:10:14 pm by Levak »
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2014, 12:15:31 pm »
Well yeah, if you hate endlessly long sigs, just disable it. You can say you don't like it and suggest changes while not trying to enforce them.

I guess why many people went overboard with the sigs is that the character limit was 10000 (it's now 3000) and on many forums it's standard to go overboard (like on xda-developers, it's common to see sigs explaining in detail every single phone they ever own, that and octuple posts for detailing projects, each post being a section).

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