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Title: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 25, 2010, 06:27:51 pm
Hi,

Sometimes, forum members invite people they know in real life or from another site on the forums. However, I would like to ask two things: Please use common sense when doing so. In most cases, this brought us troublemakers because the person inviting the other did not be careful about what kind of person they invite. Two examples are most members from #mionet, tha guy with the nickname Freezway and all of Netham45 online friends, most notoriously Ginger/Flacknack. (No offense to Miotatsu, Deep Thought and Netham45).

If you feel that a member in particular has a behavior that is not something that goes within our policies, it might be best to avoid inviting that person here. Also remember that certain people acts differently in real life than on the Internet.

EDIT: Er... I accidentally in the wrong forum, could someone move this topic up one level?
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: yunhua98 on December 25, 2010, 06:32:27 pm
done.  yeah, I'll keep that in mind, although its really unlikely I'll ever have to worry about it.  XD
most people here aren't interested in calcs/forums
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 25, 2010, 06:33:47 pm
Ok thanks. Yeah I was mostly saying because when people did, they basically brought 4chan on the site. One guy Netham45 invited even flooded my other forum TIMGUL once.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: Munchor on December 25, 2010, 06:33:48 pm
I once invited a friend, gangsterveggies, he didn't like the forums though.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 25, 2010, 06:34:56 pm
I thought he joined before you did? O.O

Yeah I noticed he was not very active, too bad he didn't like the site much.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: Ashbad on December 25, 2010, 06:35:08 pm
Not a bad idea, DJ.  I invited zzCoRRoDe, but it turns out he doesnt want to program calcs after all :P
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: Munchor on December 25, 2010, 06:35:46 pm
I thought he joined before you did? O.O

Yeah I noticed he was not very active, too bad he didn't like the site much.

I mean, he liked it, but he 'doesn't have time for forums'. He's a great programmer, but he doesn't do what I call 'web socializing', so his stuff is not very popular. Too bad for him :(
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: Eeems on December 25, 2010, 06:35:55 pm
I've only invited one friend, while he is spammish, he is a great guy and doesn't like when people are rude to each other, unfortunately he has no interest in calc's and isn't on IRC often (too busy playing minecraft :P)
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: AngelFish on December 25, 2010, 06:37:54 pm
I wouldn't have anyone to invite in the first place  :P

I don't know anyone in comp. sci.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: yunhua98 on December 25, 2010, 06:39:14 pm
that said, don't stop inviting people, or we wouldn't have things like Ncaster and Nspire Raytracer.  (since Builderboy (I think) invited bwang)

EDIT:  btw, should this be in News?
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: jnesselr on December 25, 2010, 06:39:32 pm
I wouldn't invite anyone simply because I don't link my real life and this account much.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 25, 2010, 06:40:59 pm
I thought he joined before you did? O.O

Yeah I noticed he was not very active, too bad he didn't like the site much.

I mean, he liked it, but he 'doesn't have time for forums'. He's a great programmer, but he doesn't do what I call 'web socializing', so his stuff is not very popular. Too bad for him :(
Ah I see now. I notice a lot of people on ticalc.org does Axe, for example, but they never post on any calc boards. Some people are less interested in forums/chats or simply don't have time.

Yunhua98 I don't think so. I guess we could post it there if in the future this became a major problem.
I wouldn't invite anyone simply because I don't link my real life and this account much.
Does that includes calculator programmers? You could maybe not tell them you post there much if that's the case or ask them to not reveal your personal info on the site (if that happens there's always the report button, anyway). I'm personally not paranoid about revealing some stuff online, but I would not like if someone posted my phone number/home address in public.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: jnesselr on December 25, 2010, 06:52:03 pm
I wouldn't invite anyone simply because I don't link my real life and this account much.
Does that includes calculator programmers? You could maybe not tell them you post there much if that's the case or ask them to not reveal your personal info on the site (if that happens there's always the report button, anyway). I'm personally not paranoid about revealing some stuff online, but I would not like if someone posted my phone number/home address in public.
I don't really know of any calc programers. I know the one who told me about programming, but he wouldn't care about TI programming anymore.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: Juju on December 25, 2010, 07:01:03 pm
I tried to invite someone once, he have a TI-83+ since nearly as long as DJ, but he wasn't really interested in advanced calc programming and going on forums... (Advanced as in more than yet another quadratic solver or something like that :P)
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 25, 2010, 07:30:24 pm
I wouldn't invite anyone simply because I don't link my real life and this account much.
Does that includes calculator programmers? You could maybe not tell them you post there much if that's the case or ask them to not reveal your personal info on the site (if that happens there's always the report button, anyway). I'm personally not paranoid about revealing some stuff online, but I would not like if someone posted my phone number/home address in public.
I don't really know of any calc programers. I know the one who told me about programming, but he wouldn't care about TI programming anymore.
Ah ok I see.

For odd reasons, i notice that a bunch of Omni members learned calc programming from another person or got interested after another person showed them, yet the other person is always the one that loses interest first. O.O
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: Munchor on December 25, 2010, 07:36:17 pm
Quote
For odd reasons, i notice that a bunch of Omni members learned calc programming from another person or got interested after another person showed them, yet the other person is always the one that loses interest first.

gangsterveggies first told me of calculator programming :)
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: Ashbad on December 25, 2010, 07:40:09 pm
Lol the person who introduced me to calc programming had 8 calcs from TI, but only really programmer for advanced math stuff
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 25, 2010, 07:54:11 pm
Woah 8? Within my first year of calc programming I bought 2 and I got my 3rd calc after 6 years of programming, even though I wasn't even as active doing so as I was before.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: holmes221b on December 25, 2010, 09:40:36 pm
I got myself into calc programming...
*shifty eyes*
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: Eeems on December 25, 2010, 09:41:06 pm
Haha, me too :P
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: jnesselr on December 25, 2010, 09:42:27 pm
I wouldn't invite anyone simply because I don't link my real life and this account much.
Does that includes calculator programmers? You could maybe not tell them you post there much if that's the case or ask them to not reveal your personal info on the site (if that happens there's always the report button, anyway). I'm personally not paranoid about revealing some stuff online, but I would not like if someone posted my phone number/home address in public.
I don't really know of any calc programers. I know the one who told me about programming, but he wouldn't care about TI programming anymore.
Ah ok I see.

For odd reasons, i notice that a bunch of Omni members learned calc programming from another person or got interested after another person showed them, yet the other person is always the one that loses interest first. O.O
Well, technically, I programmed calcs, and found out he did also. He then graduated. But he showed me a computer programming language (java). He then graduated, so I don't really keep in touch.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: Netham45 on January 11, 2011, 06:50:13 pm
Netham45 online friends, most notoriously Ginger/Flacknack. (No offense to Miotatsu, Deep Thought and Netham45).

My friends suck.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: willrandship on January 11, 2011, 06:53:29 pm
I might have considered inviting one person a while ago, but two reasons why not.

i didn't know it existed (biggest one :P)
He really only did it as a minor hobby.

Now he doesn't program much, but at least he knows how. I actually taught him how to use 86 basic :P

I also was half-self, half-online taught. My real experience is on the 86, reading online people's old Basic games.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 11, 2011, 07:00:42 pm
I think one issue that arises with real life friends that are into video games, especially online ones, and also check such sites online, is that these people tend to think that since it's the internet, people there shouldn't be taken seriously, so in real life, they're usually nice, but online, they fuck with people because they know there won't be consequences as bad. :/

Personally the only time online I don't care much about anyone is when I actually play online games with random people I'll never meet again. Most people there are generally jerks and when I discover they are, I don't really be careful anymore about being respectful or not. This is a bit why in Starcraft, when I play in team I prefer playing with people I get along well with. The teamate may not be in platinum or diamond league, but it works so much better that we still manage to own, sometimes. I think a team of two bronze 1v1 players that work well in team will outdo a team of two gold 1v1 players that won't work in team at all, unless the first team strategy fails.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: Juju on January 11, 2011, 08:00:14 pm
Got one guy I know IRL playing on my Minecraft server and I regularly get some complains about him... Sometimes he uses the fact that he knows me IRL as a reason to do anything, among others.

I think you have to be careful about that, especially if you're admin. For example, I met DJ one time IRL, I live in the same town as him, but I know that's not a sufficient reason to avoid bans and to get automatic manager status.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 11, 2011, 08:03:00 pm
ouch sorry to hear, I remember a similar behavior with a former user (years ago) that thought he could do anything here because he was friend of an IRC op on the IRC network we used to be on.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: Eeems on January 12, 2011, 07:12:08 pm
:(
Have you explained to him that just because he knows you it doesn't mean he can do that kind of thing? (of course a bit more tactful then that) Sometimes I find that explaining stuff like that can help.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 12, 2011, 07:13:23 pm
WHich person? ???
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: Eeems on January 12, 2011, 07:21:16 pm
Oh sorry, that comment was aimed at Juju
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 12, 2011, 11:57:45 pm
Ah ok :P

And yeah I agree with you. ANother thing I despise that people who get warned/banned does is that when a staff that was not involved in a conflict warns them for breaking the rules, the person gets pissed at the moderator for putting his nose in their affairs. Here's the deal: we don't care. Omnimaga policy is that all moderators can enforce the rules on anyone who break them, regardless of if they are involved or not. Rules and rules so the first staff willing to stop someone from causing trouble will punish/warn no matter what.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: Juju on January 13, 2011, 03:57:31 am
Yep, rules are rules. So my mods on Minecraft were pissed at each other about destroying each other's stuff, disagreeing on rules about abusing of mod commands, putting all the fault on this guy I know IRL, who was putting all the fault back on another one, was hard to find out who was really the culprit, so I simply temporarly removed the access of everyone directly or indirectly involved. I hate when people (mostly people who have power, in my case) gets pissed at each other, it sometimes ends in a ragequit of one of the parties. Sometimes it's hard to see who is right, in this case I prefer to stay neutral, not caring about who is right and try to stop the fight by any means.

Of course, it applies everywhere, on forums, IRC, Minecraft or anywhere someone can have some sort of superiority over others.
Title: Re: Using common sense when Inviting IRL people on Omnimaga
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 13, 2011, 04:05:46 am
yeah true, I hate when I get stuck in the middle of conflicts too. It happened on my other forum (TIMGUL) before and I pretty much gave up cuz when I banned a troublemaker it divided into clans and stuff...