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Re: On-calculator app signing
« Reply #60 on: December 09, 2010, 05:24:52 pm »
Really? O.O I wonder which apps does...
ZoomMath is an example of a third party App that costs money. ;)  http://www.zoommath.com/

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Re: On-calculator app signing
« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2010, 07:07:55 pm »
Oh right, but I mean TI ones. I was sure TI stopped selling apps althogether.

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Re: On-calculator app signing
« Reply #62 on: December 09, 2010, 09:20:38 pm »
I think they have, but I don't expect they'll ever take those bits of code out.  And even if they did - even if they released new OSes tomorrow that did away with all the old protection mechanisms - I'd still say it's worthwhile to remain compatible with the older OSes.  I mean, personally, I'm still using 2.30 on my 84+, and given the state of the newer OSes, I don't plan on upgrading that in the forseeable future.  I think both my 83+es are running 1.19 now, but I kept 1.14 for a very long time, for the sake of program compatibility.  I'm sure I'm not the only one.

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Re: On-calculator app signing
« Reply #63 on: December 10, 2010, 02:34:43 am »
I think BrandonW always recommends to update to 2.43 and 1.19 but discourages using 2.53 MP. However, I guess if you never have issues with older OSes you don't really have to bother. I personally used 1.14 for ages as well, too, then stuck to 1.18 for 2 years. The only problem with older 83+ OSes is that they have a different ASCII charmap I think, or something related to ASCII is different, and as result, certain games using some characters will only send on a calc running 1.15 or higher.

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Re: On-calculator app signing
« Reply #64 on: December 10, 2010, 09:32:11 am »
The only problem with older 83+ OSes is that they have a different ASCII charmap I think, or something related to ASCII is different, and as result, certain games using some characters will only send on a calc running 1.15 or higher.
They are missing a few characters, namely ~@#$&`;\|_%. They were added to allow compatibility with the TI Keyboard. 1.16 also added a few characters, but they are rarely used. Some of them are the arrows, the … character and also ß, which is used in German.
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Re: On-calculator app signing
« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2010, 09:45:40 am »
Those OSes also broke compatibility with old ones, though. The 256 char-long string of 3x3 black squares is gone, for example. Illusiat 6 final dungeon, for instance, no longer shows up properly past OS 1.15.

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Re: On-calculator app signing
« Reply #66 on: December 10, 2010, 09:49:56 am »
Is it completely gone, or is it just replaced with a more normal token?

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Re: On-calculator app signing
« Reply #67 on: December 10, 2010, 06:59:53 pm »
It became an up arrow, if I remember. You can see how the original token looked like at 2:37 in this video:

This is a 2 bytes token, by the way.

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Re: On-calculator app signing
« Reply #68 on: January 08, 2011, 05:54:40 pm »
So I sent this to my calculator and tested it out on an Axe app, but it said the length was wrong and refused to sign it.

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Re: On-calculator app signing
« Reply #69 on: January 08, 2011, 06:07:48 pm »
That's probably because of the bug in 0.4.7 that causes it to not update the length field.  This has been fixed for the patch.
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