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String to Number... ONE Number.
« on: November 05, 2009, 10:10:34 pm »
Yeah. I'm trying to do the impossible.

How do you convert a string into a single distinguishable number and back again?

The current code I have for encoding is:

Code: [Select]
DelVar A
Input Str1
sub(length(Str1->A
For(X,1,length(Str1
A+2^inString("ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ_"sub(Str1,X,1->A
End
Disp A

EDIT: FYI, the string "OMNIMAGA" would produce 66180.08.
Now, you would think that that is pretty distinguishable, right?
Wrong.

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Re: String to Number... ONE Number.
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2009, 10:15:37 am »
Yay!!! New Puzzle for me!!!!~~~ I'm with you to the quest of finding the solution :D


Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: String to Number... ONE Number.
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 10:53:04 am »
Well for now I am going to point out where you are going wrong, but I'll leave the rest up to you (unless you insist you really need help :P)  Lets say the word is AB.  So 2^1 + 2^2 = 2+4 = 6.  Yay! But since we are adding two numbers into the same digit, we can't know if it is 2+4 or 4+2.  The problem here is that new Characters ovewrite and change previous digits, and that needs to not happen :)

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Re: String to Number... ONE Number.
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2009, 02:31:09 pm »
Yeah... You know what I figured??? The probability of 7 character combination is 8,031,810,176 possibility,
since there are 26 characters, you do 26^length of word
It's really big number, and after 8th character, the calculator rounds


Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: String to Number... ONE Number.
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 03:06:31 pm »
Actualy its 14 digits.  The calculator only displays 8 tho

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Re: String to Number... ONE Number.
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 05:07:06 pm »
So, what are you trying to say, Builderboy? Are you saying that 2^X isn't distinguishable enough to be decoded? Or are you saying that the encoding process is wrong?

And, yes, I really need your help. :)
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Re: String to Number... ONE Number.
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 05:43:18 pm »
Well let me first put this out.  The calculator only stores 14 digits, and each digit can range from 0 to 9.  That is 10^14 states.  That many states can only hold nine 26 state characters.  Meaning the largest word you can compress will be 5 letters or less.  And that is with fantastic compression that would probably involve changing of bases XD

This is the way I would do it, which would be 7 characters per number:

If you have a number, with 14 digits, it looks like this
##############

And any character can be represented by a 2 digit number 00-25.  So divide up the digits
##|##|##|##|##|##|##

Where each set of digits converts to a character in a string.  This method gives you a fair 77% of the possible information able to be stored in a single number though.  But you can do any character from 0-99, so that is a bonus.

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Re: String to Number... ONE Number.
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 06:16:19 pm »
Hmm...

expr(sub("E14E12E101E81E61E41E2",3X-2,3))inString("ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ",sub(Str1,X,1)) ?
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Re: String to Number... ONE Number.
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 06:54:49 pm »
I'm assuming the E represents the little Scientific notation E?

You could simplify to 10^(2X) or something of the like

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Re: String to Number... ONE Number.
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 07:00:46 pm »
10^(2X)?

That seems like a bit much. Care to explain?

And, yes, it represents the little scientific E. :p

EDIT: Oh. Ha. I'm a retard. I get it.

EDIT 2: YES! Encoding finished! Working on decoding.

EDIT 3: Having issues with decoding.

Code: [Select]
"?->Str1
For(X,1,dim(L1
DelVar (theta)DelVar BL1(X->A
Repeat B
If not(int(10^((theta))(exponent -1)A
1->B
Pause (theta)
(theta)+1(not(B->(theta)
End
For(C,(theta)-2,0,-2
27+(C<0)int(10^(C)(exponent -1)A->D
Pause D
Str1+sub("ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ_",D,1->Str1
fPart(10^((theta)-2)(exponent -1)A->A
End
End
"sub(Str1,2,length(Str1)-1
Pause Str1

Do you see what I'm trying to do here?
It refuses to work though.
What am I missing here?
« Last Edit: November 06, 2009, 10:25:46 pm by ProphetsDementia »
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Re: String to Number... ONE Number.
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 10:31:57 pm »
I actually am working on this, and is almost done... I just need to work on decoding.
I will upload it as soon as I'm finished.
Or may be just put the code :P


Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: String to Number... ONE Number.
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2009, 10:35:14 pm »
Thanks, man. It's nice to know that I have a wingman on this project.
:)

EDIT: Finished! WOO!
Man, that thing was a beast to accomplish.

You guys want the code?
« Last Edit: November 07, 2009, 10:41:32 am by ProphetsDementia »
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Re: String to Number... ONE Number.
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2009, 12:38:18 pm »
Double-post again. Sorry.

(DJ Omnimaga, if the post is getting marked new, then why is the topic not going up to the top? Why is the time not changing?)
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Re: String to Number... ONE Number.
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2009, 01:29:03 pm »
Because the post isn't any newer. It will still be marked as new, but will still be sorted by date. Lately there were a lot of posts, though, so it might be slightly harder to notice through the latest post list.

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Re: String to Number... ONE Number.
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2009, 01:36:58 pm »
Yeah!! I finished it too!!!!!!! My program will code and decode upto 10 programs accurately.
Coding takes 106 Bytes and Decoding takes 177 Bytes, when I set the program name to 1 character.
I probably can optimize it tho. ProphetsDementia, you wanna compare the programs???
I'll post the code first~

Coding:
Code: [Select]
:0->C
:Input Str1->A
:For(X,1,A
:inString("ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ",sub(Str1,X,1->B
:C+B(26^(A-X->C
:End
:C->A
:DelVar BDelVar CDelvar Str1Disp A

Decoding:
Code: [Select]
:" ->Str1 //1 space
:Input C
:C->B
:0->A
:Repeat B<=0
:A+1->A
:B-26^A->B
:End
:For(X,A-1,0,-1
:0->B
:Repeat C<=26^X or B=26
:B+1->B
:C-26^X->C
:End
:If X=0 and C=1
:B+1->B
:Str1+sub("ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ",B,1->Str1
:End
:sub(Str1,2,A->Str1
:DelVar ADelVar BDelVar CDisp Str1

The decoding happened pretty much by luck, I just put random codes in and hoped that it to work properly  :P


Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*