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Calculator Community => TI Calculators => TI-BASIC => Topic started by: Drak on January 23, 2010, 08:43:26 pm

Title: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: Drak on January 23, 2010, 08:43:26 pm
xlib 0.6 something or another only allows the real(1 sprite routine to access up to the first 10 pics. is there an update that allows the full 255 or is that Celtic III only. also, where can I get C3 at.
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: ztrumpet on January 23, 2010, 08:46:06 pm
Here's Celtic III v3.09s and xLib v.62.
They both should have all the pics.
(Celtic III is Iambian's and xLib is Trip1ea's, not mine.)
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 23, 2010, 08:49:30 pm
Celtic III was also avaliable at United-TI website, but the problem is that they decided in 2008 to force guests to register to download attachments. Nice of them >.>

Else, there is xLIB but it has fewer commands: http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=253
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: Silver Shadow on January 24, 2010, 02:33:30 am
You'd better stick to xLIB, Celtic III is a bit buggy at the moment...
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 24, 2010, 02:35:08 am
Well it depends which functions he wants to use. If he wants to use any of the Celtic-only features he might have no choice x.x
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: Silver Shadow on January 24, 2010, 02:36:19 am
He could you use the program version of Celtic III...
But it has less features than the app version though.
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 24, 2010, 02:54:52 am
Didn't it miss some feature CIII has, tho?

Anyway we shouldn't bash Celtic III or something like that since Iambian spent a lot of time on it. :P I didn,t have this much problems with it personally. Metroid II and SMSD works with only a few minor display glitches and XXR/Reuben series works perfectly

EDIT: edited due to Silver's edits, as this post went a bit out of context...
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: Silver Shadow on January 24, 2010, 06:48:18 am
I'm not saying Celtic III is bad, I just said that it has xLIB compatibility problems. All of its other features work perfectly.
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: ztrumpet on January 24, 2010, 10:59:23 am
What problems does it have?  I havn't noticed any, but I havn't used it a lot.
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: Silver Shadow on January 24, 2010, 11:21:45 am
real(14 doesn't work and the graphical functions are buggy.
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: Eeems on January 24, 2010, 11:49:54 am
There are a few problems, but nothing you can't get around. It works well enough to be better then xlib already.
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 24, 2010, 11:56:04 am
I think real(3 is fine IIRC, though. (Enough to partially port Reuben to Celtic III.... oh shit  now everyone's gonna bug me to do it `-`)
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: Silver Shadow on January 24, 2010, 11:57:56 am
You said "partially", so I guess people won't mind if you don't. ;D
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: Eeems on January 24, 2010, 12:04:40 pm
Well the only xlib commands that have issues that I remember using, were real(12 when going off the screen the text flags one, which isn't a problem, you can just use exec hex instead. And that's the only problems I can remember running into.
DJ: I won't bug you ;) I'll just bug you in spirit :p
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: Builderboy on January 24, 2010, 01:01:32 pm
Yeah, CelticIII almost works 100% perfectly, just for a few small graphical problems.  Fortunately they are not crashworthy.  In my game Shift the only difference is that you can't see the loading bar :P
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 24, 2010, 02:34:16 pm
You said "partially", so I guess people won't mind if you don't. ;D
Well, what I mean is that every command Reuben uses to render the grayscale fullscreen would be changed to real(3 xLIB commands (recallpic). The rest would remain as Omnicalc Sprite( commands.
Title: Re: where can I get celtic 3 or an xlib with something
Post by: Iambian on January 24, 2010, 10:44:43 pm
I will admit that I didn't quite work as hard as I could've (but still pretty darned hard) on the graphical simulation of xLIB functions. I even had to go as far as a nice talk with teh author of xLIB for all the quirks that were involved when missing variables were introduced into the equation.

As for the real(14) thing not working, that's an oversight. I had to check that one earlier today, and that's pretty amazing that such managed to slip through the cracks. I know that at one point, it *did* work. But still, if you are coding any new game, there is a decent workaround: det(4)

Just so you know, you can also check the amount of free ROM (Archive) by doing det(4,1)