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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #225 on: June 22, 2009, 07:00:25 pm »
my Be is running on a 2.43 to
bhuh, I think i'm going to sleep -.- in about 7 hours I have to be at school again xo
good, eh I presume evening :p cya

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #226 on: June 23, 2009, 04:54:47 pm »
hi guys
calc84maniac, I've send you a mail with tetris.8xk and space.8xk
 
furthermore, good evening everybody
 
offtopic: downloaded FZERO, really great mate!

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #227 on: June 23, 2009, 09:02:22 pm »
Well I uploaded your space.8xk to my calc and it still worked, so it seems it's not a sending issue.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #228 on: June 24, 2009, 04:38:34 am »
damn x.x
i ask myself, can other ti84+ be users run it
 
everyone here uses se's but the most people in the schools in my country have 84 be's

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #229 on: June 24, 2009, 02:44:56 pm »
On Revsoft, someone got the same problem as you and on #omnimaga chat, someone quoted something from #tcpa from an user saying it would crash.

Sometimes I wonder if it isn't a hardware difference between certain 84+/SE calcs? I hope if it's the case that it's not the latest manufactured calcs, though, else fewer and fewer people will be able to use TI-Boy :(

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #230 on: June 24, 2009, 03:04:33 pm »
There might be a hardware issue. I'd suggest implementing a hardware check for some of the more obscure stuff you do in the emulator just to see if it really is the hardware. I'm suggesting, because it works on some people's calcs, and not others.

Just an idea to throw out at ya.

EDIT: Maybe the differing bootcode versions on these calcs might be telling of this difference, but all these ideas are just speculations at the moment. I'd trust you would have the resources and the time to actually test them all out.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #231 on: June 24, 2009, 03:15:25 pm »
Someone should ask the boot code version of all person who tested TI-Boy SE. If everyone who didn,t got it to work had something else than everyone who did, then I think it will definitviely be an hardware issue on newer calcs

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #232 on: June 24, 2009, 03:45:58 pm »
bootcode?
 
damn, it sucks if newer calc's can't run it. I bought it 1 year ago, but i'm not sure from what year it actually is :/
by excluding the people on my school that have a ti84be, you already exclude some more than 300 people

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #233 on: June 24, 2009, 04:05:47 pm »
Well it's not Calc84maniac fault. We all got our 84+ calcs about 3-4 years ago over here. Almost nobody might be aware of the changes. Blame TI on that x.x I seriously hope a fix is possible, though.

Back in the TI-82 days, TI constantly changed the hardware and it caused old games to not work on newer calcs or newer games to not run on older calcs. Emulators had to be created to fix this, and sometimes it wasn't always possible. FOr example, my TI-82 16.0 can't run Robot War (Digitan's RPG) because it only supports 19.0 and almost all games made prior 19.00006 came out requires a special version of CrASH to run on newer TI-82 calcs (with a different design). I believe this is what caused most people to move to TI-83 developpement instead, even if the TI-82 was still sold in certain countries even 4 years after the TI-83 (non-Plus) got discontinued

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #234 on: June 24, 2009, 04:54:42 pm »
Talked to you guys at #tctp/#omnimaga, and got BIOS 1.02 (basecode 2.43), obviously it fails :(
Got the same error with Realsound.
Found someone with OS 2.40 though (bios 1.02), I'll try it at her calc friday. If it works, OS issue, else hardware?
Edit: these calculators were bought around summer 2008
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #235 on: June 24, 2009, 05:36:09 pm »
Okay, since RealSound doesn't work, I might sort of have a better idea of what's going on now. Maybe the RAM page execution restriction isn't allowing page $83 to be executed? Try this ASM program and see if it crashes:
Code: [Select]
:AsmPrgm
:F3
:3E03
:D305
:3EC9
:3200C0
:CD00C0
:AF
:D305
:FB
:C9
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #236 on: June 24, 2009, 05:50:21 pm »
Executes fine...

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #237 on: June 24, 2009, 05:54:34 pm »
Hmm, that might not be the problem after all. However, my main calc has Boot Code 1.02 and Base Code 2.43, so it's probably not an OS problem.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #238 on: June 24, 2009, 06:04:21 pm »
I bought it 1 year ago, but i'm not sure from what year it actually is :/

If TI still does this on new calcs, I remember reading on the Web one time that there was a manufacturing date code to the right of the serial number on the back of the calcs. I'm not sure where I read this, but it seems to be plausible. For instance, on mine:

TI-82: To the right of the serial number the code is “I-1094Q” (10/94 = October 1994)
TI-85: “CBL I-0795G” (07/95)
TI-86: “I-0897D” (08/97)
TI-89: “I-0600D” (06/2000)
TI-89T: “S-0906F” (09/2006)
TI-81: (Don't have it handy at the moment, but you get the idea)

All of these dates are within a few months (except the TI-86, which I got over a year later) before I received each calculator, so it seems like it could be right.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #239 on: June 24, 2009, 06:32:06 pm »
My TI-84+SE's are 07/04, 06/05, and 02/07.
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