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Title: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: robberguy189 on October 25, 2012, 06:48:13 pm
So TI boy plays with very bad graphics and super slow speed.  The display is all fuzzy, and the gameplay is laggy.  What's going on?  I hear some people say they can't distinguish speed with the acutal gameboy  O.O .  Are they doing something I'm not?

TI 84+

Also, how likely is it to break my calculator, because it modifies the os?
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: Sorunome on October 25, 2012, 07:08:56 pm
EDIT: Don't do, was just guessing
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: Runer112 on October 25, 2012, 07:14:41 pm
What you're experiencing is no bug, that's just what happens when you try to emulate a device with a 4MHz processor and decent 2D graphics hardware on a device with only a marginally faster processor, (virtually) no graphics hardware, and a smaller screen that requires downscaling to make (most of) the original image fit. In contrast to that, a gameboy emulator running on your computer has a processor that is thousands of times faster, powerful graphics hardware, and no downscaling necessary.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: robberguy189 on October 25, 2012, 07:36:54 pm
Dang.  So that means the screenies and animated screenies were faked?  They played alright.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: Runer112 on October 25, 2012, 07:42:44 pm
What screenshots are you talking about? As far as I know any screenshots of it hanging around are real, although the grayscale/overall screen quality might not be accurate because of emulator settings. And generally if the game is zoomed in 100% it looks fairly good and runs decently close to original speed. Of course the drawback then is that you can't see a large portion of the real image.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: Deep Toaster on October 25, 2012, 07:44:02 pm
Dang.  So that means the screenies and animated screenies were faked?  They played alright.
I don't know of any fake screenshots of TI-Boy. What game are you trying to play? I can test it out. Maybe it's that specific game that's slow, or maybe it runs faster on a different calculator (though I can't think of a reason why).
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: Eeems on October 25, 2012, 07:44:26 pm
Dang.  So that means the screenies and animated screenies were faked?  They played alright.
None of the screenshots were faked.
I've played around with TI-Boy and what I've seen matches up to the screenshots. The screenshots were taken on an emulator though so the fuzzyness that we get due to how the display works doesn't show up on them.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: Darl181 on October 25, 2012, 07:46:09 pm
The speed it runs at depends on the settings you use, iirc. I'm guessing scaling slows it down, while playing at 1:1 scale it runs faster.
I think there's grayscale settings as well, maybe try playing with those? Haven't played with ti-boy for >1 year so I don't really remember much :P
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: robberguy189 on October 25, 2012, 07:55:30 pm
What settings can I do?  Also, the games are castlevania (1st one) and super mario (1st one again).  THe screen is VERY fuzzy.  Like fuzzy, you can't see anything.  Also very laggy...
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: robberguy189 on October 25, 2012, 08:01:05 pm
Nevermind, just zoomed it in a bit, focused well.  And man, this is FREAKING AMAZING.  :P  I love this emulator.  I set frameskip to 0 for best fps, it is VERY nice now.  

But, I must know, how likely is it to permemnantly "brick up" my calculator?
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: Eeems on October 25, 2012, 08:01:36 pm
What settings can I do?  Also, the games are castlevania (1st one) and super mario (1st one again).  THe screen is VERY fuzzy.  Like fuzzy, you can't see anything.  Also very laggy...
Is it fuzzy when things are moving or are you just zoomed all the way out? Have you checked the readme for the controls?
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: robberguy189 on October 25, 2012, 08:54:52 pm
But, I must know, how likely is it to permemnantly "brick up" my calculator?
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 25, 2012, 10:02:43 pm
Is it possible that you used an outdated version of TI-Boy? Older versions were much slower than the original thing.

But, I must know, how likely is it to permemnantly "brick up" my calculator?

It can explode, literally, and irradiate your house. In 99.98% of the cases, however, all that can happen is a RAM clear requiring the removal of one battery.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: Eeems on October 25, 2012, 10:05:32 pm
But, I must know, how likely is it to permemnantly "brick up" my calculator?
Highly unlikely. Almost impossible.
In fact I am only aware of one way to permanently brick a calculator and there is no way it could happen by accident via ti-boy. Even that way is fixable with the right hardware.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: robberguy189 on October 26, 2012, 12:30:45 pm
So is ti boy more dangerous than regular ti basic gaming, or just the same.  I know ti basic gaming won't break your calculator.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: Eeems on October 26, 2012, 12:42:27 pm
It's more likely to cause a ram clear or an archive corruption. In the odd case you may have to reinstall the OS. It's no more likely to Brick your device then BASIC games would be though.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: calc84maniac on October 26, 2012, 12:46:55 pm
It's actually very unlikely to cause a RAM clear unless the OS is corrupted, though (i.e. if you see "Install OS Now!" when you turn on your calculator). In the case of any normal crash it restores the previous contents of your RAM instead of clearing it. And in the case that the OS is corrupted, all you have to do is send a new one, the calculator is not bricked.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: robberguy189 on October 26, 2012, 05:17:47 pm
This is good news.  By the way, ti boy hasn't ram resetted once yet.  This is pretty amazing, consider super mario ram resets every time I die (on a certain level I've played).

Oh yeah, and is it neccessary to zoom in all the way to get a good resolution, or is there another way.  It is very fun, but it would be a bit better if I could see everything.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: Eeems on October 26, 2012, 05:20:47 pm
That is the only way due to the native resolution of the gameboy being much greater then the calculator.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: robberguy189 on October 26, 2012, 06:18:35 pm
One more thing.  Could I buy an adapter to listen to the sound at walmart or home depot?  Do I need to buy it online?  What exactly is it called?  
Is the sound thing just a joke or is it real?
And how much would an adapter cost?
Do you recommend buying one to listen to the sound?
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: calc84maniac on October 26, 2012, 06:40:37 pm
It's just a simple 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio cable converter (like the type that can be used with some cell phones that have small audio jacks), it's usually really cheap. I'm not so sure that the sound is worth the trouble though. Yeah, it's kind of cool that it works, but on the other hand the quality is terrible and it makes the gameplay even more laggy.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: robberguy189 on October 27, 2012, 01:27:18 pm
I got the adapter at radioshack today, it cost me eight bucks.  I think it is pretty cool, but the music in megaman sucks, total junk.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 27, 2012, 02:00:46 pm
Yeah the emulator is still kinda new so some games will not work pretty well yet.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: TIfanx1999 on October 29, 2012, 06:58:54 pm
I got the adapter at radioshack today, it cost me eight bucks.  I think it is pretty cool, but the music in megaman sucks, total junk.
It's a small wonder that sound is even possible. I mean, the unit doesn't even have any sound hardware built in at all. It's really more of a novelty than anything else.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: Hayleia on October 30, 2012, 02:36:28 am
I second Art_of_Camelot. Come to think that not any emulator for Nspire have sound and feel lucky to have it on your z80.
Title: Re: TI boy very laggy!
Post by: willrandship on November 12, 2012, 07:05:14 pm
Was this one of the "Fake Screenies"?
(http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/ss/801/80118.gif)

because that's a screenshot from the nspire GBC emulator. Much faster and far better resolution, simply because the hardware is better.