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Re: C or ASM IDE for the Nspire
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2012, 04:16:28 pm »
I would program much more if I could do it on-calc during boring lessons or at lunchtime. If you make this I'll definitely use it!

there's only one thing i don't really get.. is there so much ASM development for the Nspire? or is it just that i don't see see it? because i haven't seen anywhere programs made in ASM for the Nspire xs therefore it seems a bit lost work to make an ASM compiler
Barely anyone codes in ASM. Calc84maniac did, but almost everyone else seems to use C. In fact it was the same on 68K calcs after TIGCC arrived and since Cemetech took over PRIZM development now it seems to be the same for that platform too (when PRIZM dev started on Omni people were using ASM)
This could also be due to the very good tutorials on how to use ndless for C whereas asm isn't really mentioned anywhere. However now that I'm writing this I remember there's a sample asm program included with ndless.

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Re: C or ASM IDE for the Nspire
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2012, 04:17:52 pm »
I'd love to see an Asm IDE, and a C IDE. Asm is better for the kind of things we like to do, ie games.

A C IDE would be significantly harder, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't love to see it.

Also, ARM assembly (ie nspire) is supposed to be much easier than most to learn, even z80 asm. (83+)
« Last Edit: May 08, 2012, 04:18:36 pm by willrandship »

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Re: C or ASM IDE for the Nspire
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2012, 01:22:16 pm »
I agree with willrandship : ARM is the easiest assembly I know, even z80 !!
Just look at that : http://www.shell-storm.org/papers/files/718.pdf
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Re: C or ASM IDE for the Nspire
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2012, 02:35:31 pm »
I would program much more if I could do it on-calc during boring lessons or at lunchtime. If you make this I'll definitely use it!

there's only one thing i don't really get.. is there so much ASM development for the Nspire? or is it just that i don't see see it? because i haven't seen anywhere programs made in ASM for the Nspire xs therefore it seems a bit lost work to make an ASM compiler
Barely anyone codes in ASM. Calc84maniac did, but almost everyone else seems to use C. In fact it was the same on 68K calcs after TIGCC arrived and since Cemetech took over PRIZM development now it seems to be the same for that platform too (when PRIZM dev started on Omni people were using ASM)
This could also be due to the very good tutorials on how to use ndless for C whereas asm isn't really mentioned anywhere. However now that I'm writing this I remember there's a sample asm program included with ndless.
A lot of people probably prefer to go the higher level route too, so they pick up C, not to mention C is possible on the computer too, so it can help once you move on from calc stuff. But yeah I heard ARM ASM is easier than z80.

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Re: C or ASM IDE for the Nspire
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2012, 11:53:30 pm »
Asm is possible on the computer too. In fact, being an assembly programmer is a rare and respected talent in the computer world, and it gives far more satisfying results in most cases. Example: ZSnes vs Snes9x. ZSnes is written in x86 assembly, and Snes9x is written in C. ZSnes gets more than 50% better performance, but Snes9x is more portable.

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Re: C or ASM IDE for the Nspire
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2012, 11:56:41 pm »
I would program much more if I could do it on-calc during boring lessons or at lunchtime. If you make this I'll definitely use it!

there's only one thing i don't really get.. is there so much ASM development for the Nspire? or is it just that i don't see see it? because i haven't seen anywhere programs made in ASM for the Nspire xs therefore it seems a bit lost work to make an ASM compiler
Barely anyone codes in ASM. Calc84maniac did, but almost everyone else seems to use C. In fact it was the same on 68K calcs after TIGCC arrived and since Cemetech took over PRIZM development now it seems to be the same for that platform too (when PRIZM dev started on Omni people were using ASM)
This could also be due to the very good tutorials on how to use ndless for C whereas asm isn't really mentioned anywhere. However now that I'm writing this I remember there's a sample asm program included with ndless.
A lot of people probably prefer to go the higher level route too, so they pick up C, not to mention C is possible on the computer too, so it can help once you move on from calc stuff. But yeah I heard ARM ASM is easier than z80.

I'm learning C right now for the Nspire, but if this ever gets completed, I might actually be motivated to learn ARM assembly.
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Re: C or ASM IDE for the Nspire
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2012, 07:06:35 am »
This is offtopic, but does someone has antoher guide for ARM assembly in english or dutch? because i don't understand french good enough to read a programming language guide in it..
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Re: C or ASM IDE for the Nspire
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2012, 09:46:27 am »
I thought French was your native language? ???
Asm is possible on the computer too. In fact, being an assembly programmer is a rare and respected talent in the computer world, and it gives far more satisfying results in most cases. Example: ZSnes vs Snes9x. ZSnes is written in x86 assembly, and Snes9x is written in C. ZSnes gets more than 50% better performance, but Snes9x is more portable.
Doesn't ASM differ from a processor to another, though? For example different ASM on Intel Core processors than AMD ones?
This is offtopic, but does someone has antoher guide for ARM assembly in english or dutch? because i don't understand french good enough to read a programming language guide in it..
I thought French was your native language? ???

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Re: C or ASM IDE for the Nspire
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2012, 10:10:16 am »
His native language is Dutch :)

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Re: C or ASM IDE for the Nspire
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2012, 10:27:00 pm »
DJ, while individual processors can have slight differences, they are extremely slight in most cases. If AMD and Intel Asm were that drastically different then they would need different software builds, ie you would need Windows XP AMD edition and Intel edition.

With ARM, the instruction sets are virtually identical across versions ie ARMv5 and ARMv7. They differ very little mainly due to their RISC nature.

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Re: C or ASM IDE for the Nspire
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2013, 09:54:04 pm »
Maybe just a sublime text 3 package can resolve this to code with hightlights...