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« Reply #90 on: June 05, 2007, 11:06:00 am »
I posted that over a month ago, I know :Ptongue.gif.

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« Reply #91 on: June 05, 2007, 01:24:00 pm »
Damn, can't we play nice? a shell is a shell.

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« Reply #92 on: June 05, 2007, 01:29:00 pm »
I thought so.  I prefaced my post by "I don't want to start a flame war" and "Feel free to ignore me completely..." My post went on to point out a few similarities between Doors CS and the mockup of NexGenGS, but also congratulated Halifax on his progress so far as well as acknowledging the different aims of NexGenGS and Doors CS.  I likened Doors CS to a "hulking 4-in-1 Swiss Army knife" and NexGenGS to "a sleek, streamlined [switchblade? can't remember]".  Anyway, I suggested that it might be advantageous to both of us if NexGenGS was an addon or module for Doors CS instead of a standalone shell, as that would allow it space for more core functionality and would also prevent reinventing the wheel of program execution, libraries, etc etc etc.  Halifax apparently took my friendly post as an ad hominem attack, and I received an extremely offensive PM in my PM box.  If anyone (including moderators) has a cache or backup copy of my post, please send it to me; I need it for my records.  Thanks in advance.



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« Reply #93 on: June 05, 2007, 01:33:00 pm »
I've got a great idea:
DCS goes in one direction, NexGen goes in the other. Sheesh, I've never seen people so competitive about a shell before! Even MirageOS and CrunchyOS keep to themselves!

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« Reply #94 on: June 05, 2007, 01:36:00 pm »
Well, i can see the logic on both your opinion, kerm, as well as in halifax's opinion.  Our intent with NexGenGS is to gear it towards the gamer.  We have planned numerous libraries designed especially for games, such as tilemappers, grayscale routines, and sprite routines.  It has been intended to be a standalone application.  So your statement, however harmless your intentions may have been, was taken to be an inflammatory attack on NexGenGS as "inferior."  As far as deleting posts, it was halifax's decision to do so.  This thread is his, and is intended to display the positive progress NexGenGS is making.  I would like to also point out that it was his decision, not that of omnimaga's.

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« Reply #95 on: June 05, 2007, 01:48:00 pm »
He's a moderator based on the fact that this is his thread.  All the staff have the power to delete/edit the posts in this thread, however we don't because it is his, and it is his own choice what is seen and what is not seen on this thread.

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« Reply #96 on: June 05, 2007, 01:58:00 pm »
I didn't save your post. And I originally posted that stuff I sent you in a pm and this forum and chose to edit that too. Anyways the reason you got me so infuriated is because of the whole thing with you coming into this forum and having the audacity to try and recruit NexGenGS for DoorsCS. I would not come to your forum and ask you to build your work ,that you have worked on for 3 years, into NexGenGS because that would be simply rude. Then the fact that you are going to try and persuade people that DoorsCS has the features that NexGenGS is neither helpful nor respectful. You obviously didn't read my PM. I believe you came in with the direct attention to diminish the reputation of NexGenGS or take it over to leave you with no competition.

And yes I believe I can make decisions on your posts in THIS forum because it is owned by me. I agree with Delnar in that the shells are obviously going in seperate ways so unless you have something constructive to do in here then leave because I will not value anymore of your posts with a response.

That's the last nail in the coffin so you are going to be talking to yourself if you say anything else.
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« Reply #97 on: June 05, 2007, 02:02:00 pm »
I would like to say that we here at omnimaga  dislike such attacks on the forum itself.  It's just php code man, it doesn't have opinions.  It just conveys people's opinions.  Don't diss omnimaga just because you don't agree with one of its staff.

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« Reply #98 on: June 05, 2007, 02:23:00 pm »
My gosh, have you all been brainwashed?! I know Omni doesn't get a ton of respect in the community, but I've always tried to withhold judgment because I used to respect Kevin O as a programmer and friend.  However, this episode is seriously undermining my respect.  My post *let me emphasize this* was carefully phrased to be extremely respectful and DID NOT insult anyone or anything here.  As you noticed, my post was DELETED, which removes all evidence that I was being friendly and non-confrontational.  Of course you guys trust Halifax more; why would he lie?

[ don't quote my pm's without my permission. I gave you notification about the deletion. ]



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« Reply #99 on: June 05, 2007, 02:24:00 pm »
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QUOTE (Halifax @ 5 Jun, 2007, 17:58)
I didn't save your post. And I originally posted that stuff I sent you in a pm and this forum and chose to edit that too. Anyways the reason you got me so infuriated is because of the whole thing with you coming into this forum and having the audacity to try and recruit NexGenGS for DoorsCS. I would not come to your forum and ask you to build your work ,that you have worked on for 3 years, into NexGenGS because that would be simply rude. Then the fact that you are going to try and persuade people that DoorsCS has the features that NexGenGS is neither helpful nor respectful. You obviously didn't read my PM. I believe you came in with the direct attention to diminish the reputation of NexGenGS or take it over to leave you with no competition.

And yes I believe I can make decisions on your posts in THIS forum because it is owned by me. I agree with Delnar in that the shells are obviously going in seperate ways so unless you have something constructive to do in here then leave because I will not value anymore of your posts with a response.

That's the last nail in the coffin so you are going to be talking to yourself if you say anything else.

ok
1) not your forum.
Edit: On talking to Halifax, he meant the NexGenGS forum, not Omnimaga.
2) you ARE right, but stop acting like Omnimaga is yours. It is as much mine as yours.
3)Kerm REALLY needs to shut his mouth.

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but clearly Omnimaga's staff do not follow the same standards.


Do NOT let his one opinion speak for all of us. Do NOT let one persons messing up tarnish our name. Just ignore him.

Now lets try to be civilized huamns, and DROP the flame before I lock this topic.
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« Reply #100 on: June 05, 2007, 02:26:00 pm »
For the last time, that is HIS opinion.  We've never placed an opinion upon either of the two of you. This is an argument between the two of you, not you and omnimaga.

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« Reply #101 on: June 05, 2007, 02:30:00 pm »
Kerm, that was inappropriate, and I am sorry to say that you couldn't be mature enough to not have this topic locked, and your post deleted.
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« Reply #102 on: June 05, 2007, 02:32:00 pm »
Two shell developers fight it out to win the ultimate seat of victory as Ticalc.org's Most Downloaded Program.

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Only one will win...

...and the other...

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« Reply #103 on: June 05, 2007, 02:36:00 pm »
Ok I want to clear up that when I said my forum that I meant NexGenGS forum not omnimaga. I never speak for omnimaga and I never speak for Kevin.

I should not hurt Kevin's reputation for any reason at all.

Netham was right in locking this topic I agree with him fully about things getting out of hand. Due to some unforsaken events this topic will be locked and sorry to say never reopened.
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« Reply #104 on: June 06, 2007, 08:46:00 am »
Omnimaga!=Kevin
Omnimaga!=Netham
Omnimaga!=Jon
Omnimaga!=Halifax
etc

We are just staff doing our work on a forum and working on programs and music.

You advertised your *own* shell in *someone else*'s shell topic, downgraded the other shell (sometimes *rudely*) to promote yours, in a thread that is not *yours*, and expect people to reply with happyness, including the one who created this topic? Then you bash people back telling them they were brainwashed? This is simply not true. Staff are just doing their work.

Because you broken two rules several times in this topic, by spamming (advertising in this case) in this topic and attacks toward the staff and omnimaga as a whole, I decided to set a temporary ban on you. You can still view the entire forum, but you cannot post anymore. Since the situation doesn't seems to be very stable with you now, the ban will last until the day I get internet access at home again, on july 3rd.

In case you get any ideas, this isn't a ban set for freedom of speech, I do not care about what you think of the shell in this thread, as long as you stay polite by expressing your opinion and as long as you advertise your own shell in the proper section of this forum.

Thanks


This topic is remaining locked, but i started another one so we can start clean again.