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Calculator Community => Other Calc-Related Projects and Ideas => TI Z80 => Topic started by: Demon on July 26, 2006, 12:42:00 pm

Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: Demon on July 26, 2006, 12:42:00 pm
I got an idea for the best teacher-tricking program in the history of teacher-tricking programs, but this is coming right off the top of my head so let me put this into a hypothetical situation:

There's a big test today and you wrote a program that will give you all the answers by typing in the numbers on the test.  The teacher is going around resetting the MEM or all the calcs.  So you run prgmFOOTCHR on your calc just before she picks it up.  She gets a little suspicious 'cause she's heard about your "1337 5|<1|_|_Z" so, she goes to look at your programs list.  There's nothing there.  She looks at your APPS list.  Nothing there but Finance.  And she looks at the lists.  Nothing there but TI-OSs defaults.  She goes to the homescreen and types a simple math problem.  It gives her an answer like normal.  And she goes though a few more of the menus before going to the memory menu and clearing your MEM, then the gives your calc back.

The next time you go to class, you get your tests back.  And you are smiling ever-so-evilly when you see that you have a percect 100, and everyone around you is pissed because they only got Ds and Cs, and maybe one or two people got lucky and got a B or an A.
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: kalan_vod on July 26, 2006, 05:07:00 pm
A program that imatates the TI-OS? Pretty simple, and it can be done with xlib if you wanted :Ptongue.gif.
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: tr1p1ea on July 27, 2006, 02:26:00 am
What exactly is this xLIB program i keep reading about? Ive been wondering this for quite some time ...
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: Spellshaper on July 27, 2006, 02:30:00 am
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Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 27, 2006, 02:37:00 am
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uh?


lol?


*xlibman pokes tr1p1ea

*xlibman hopes this isn't someone who hacked tr1p1ea account (I cant check IP because last post from him was a month ago and he use different PC all the time >.<)

EDIT: on positive note this is 27000th post on the forums

EDIT 2: second possibility might be the effect of pyro_xp2k sig  :Dbiggrin.gif
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: Radical Pi on July 27, 2006, 03:43:00 am
Ah...Yeah pyro, I've had that exact program idea too, even tried to start it, but I lost the motivation/attention to get past CTL-I/O-prgm. The only thing suspicious is the speed. :(sad.gif

I would suggest just making a prgm PYTHAG within the shell, and "resetting RAM" sets the don't-display-PYTHAG flag.

If you were to make it, I would be happy. Just for the sake of an uber-teacher-breaker being done. ^^

But, there's a key with a probable keycode of 101 you should be worrying about...
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: Spellshaper on July 27, 2006, 04:01:00 am
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QUOTE (Radical Pi @ Jul 27 2006, 04:43 PM)
But, there's a key with a probable keycode of 101 you should be worrying about...  

 There is always ONBLOCK. Blocks the ON key. Period. ;)wink.gif
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: Radical Pi on July 27, 2006, 04:18:00 am
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QUOTE (Spellshaper @ Jul 27 2006, 10:01 AM)
QuoteBegin-Radical Pi+Jul 27 2006, 04:43 PM-->
QUOTE (Radical Pi @ Jul 27 2006, 04:43 PM)
But, there's a key with a probable keycode of 101 you should be worrying about...

There is always ONBLOCK. Blocks the ON key. Period. ;)wink.gif

 I know. :Ptongue.gif
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: kalan_vod on July 27, 2006, 04:37:00 am
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QUOTE (tr1p1ea @ Jul 27 2006, 08:26 AM)
What exactly is this xLIB program i keep reading about? Ive been wondering this for quite some time ...  

 Saying that you are making a game with xLIB, and you wanted to make such a teacher program. Then you make the program use xLIB to recall pictures of the Ram clear/menus and use real(12 for the menus and also hide the busy indicator.
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: jons on July 27, 2006, 08:54:00 am
Or better yet, you can just not cheat and study for your test. Cheating will only hurt yourself later.
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: Demon on July 27, 2006, 09:10:00 am
Aw, come on, no one isn't really going to use this to cheat.  Just to keep your gaming on the D/L in those boring-as-[...] math classes.
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: Speler on July 27, 2006, 03:48:00 pm
Really the best way to save games and programs with most teachers is to just store everything to archive, it's very rare that they know how to clear it or even that it exists.
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: kalan_vod on July 27, 2006, 05:03:00 pm
Lol, my physics teacher went through my program list running each one, and asking what each was >.>. I made a program a appvar and she didnt know the difference XDsmiley.gif
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: lolje on July 28, 2006, 02:28:00 am
 :lol:bounce2.gif  it's (in most cases) very easy to hide indormation on the calculator so that any teacher isn't able to find it...

remember the teachers can't investigate 1.5 minutes to check every single calc of ~30 pupils... (30*1.5=45; the lesson would be over :Ptongue.gif )
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: Demon on July 31, 2006, 02:07:00 pm
Not when your math teacher worked at TI for x years.
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 31, 2006, 02:35:00 pm
that can happen, altough its mostly unlikely to not do >.< but if it happen make sure you use some weird hacking tools to hide your programs


EDIT: oops I accidentally double posted instead of editing my post O_Oshocked2.gif
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: elfprince13 on July 31, 2006, 03:12:00 pm
krolypto + on+prgm = hide all programs.
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: Demon on August 01, 2006, 03:22:00 pm
It would be nice if Krolypto would let you start up programs with your calc besides itself since it uses parts of the start-up app...
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: threefingeredguy on August 01, 2006, 09:20:00 pm
If you have to cheat on a math test you should be moved down a grade.
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: tenniskid493 on August 02, 2006, 02:32:00 am
Thank you tfg...i agree completly
Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: lolje on August 03, 2006, 12:26:00 am
I think if you are able to code a whole game for the calc or any other platform you should be clever enough to learn and understand some math-stuff, which is definitly the best way to get better marks like tfg and tenniskid mentioned...

Just take some time and learn that
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Title: The Best Teacher-Tricking Program...
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 03, 2006, 01:54:00 am
On another calc forum I visit sometimes (altough I'm not really active) you can get banned for asking help on cheating in math tests with your calculator :)smile.gif

At school we were allowed to have all our formulas on a sheet of paper we wrote them on for the entire test, and we could even have math programs in our calcs during the test. Of course it was impossible to use in developpement questions where you had to write down all the calculations to show how you found the awnser but it was useful for awnser choice based questions or question where you only had to write the awnser :Dbiggrin.gif

In physics tests we werent even allowed to use graphing calcs though, it was only in math tests we could use them