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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #930 on: May 29, 2013, 08:44:36 am »
(reading and replying to posts after the weeks of broken e-mail notifications which caused me to miss lots of topic updates)

Your 84+SE / SilverLink OS sending woes seem to be similar to http://ourl.ca/4010/347568 , aren't they ? We need to investigate, but probably not before the week-end, at best, as far as I'm concerned...
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #931 on: May 29, 2013, 10:13:51 am »
I have three issues to report :
1) After using the font editor the shortcuts are broken everywhere and I must RAM clear or run a program to fix them
2) The RAM clear patch in the latest update is broken and makes the calc crash on every RAM clear, which forces you to resend your OS with battery+del (holding vars or clear doesn't help). A workaround is to patch with the previous version
3) Once the patch is installed resending an OS is mandatory when you do battery + del
I have an 84+BE, OS 2.43 with PolyPatch84, Mapar's PTT patch and your flash speed and exponent patch, boot code 1.02, rev G (TA3 chip).

While you shouldn't run into these issues often, 2 and 3 are quite annoying.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #932 on: May 29, 2013, 03:36:57 pm »
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I have three issues to report :
1) After using the font editor the shortcuts are broken everywhere and I must RAM clear or run a program to fix them
2) The RAM clear patch in the latest update is broken and makes the calc crash on every RAM clear, which forces you to resend your OS with battery+del (holding vars or clear doesn't help). A workaround is to patch with the previous version
3) Once the patch is installed resending an OS is mandatory when you do battery + del
I have an 84+BE, OS 2.43 with PolyPatch84 and your flash speed and exponent patch, boot code 1.02, rev G (TA3 chip).

While you shouldn't run into these issues often, 2 and 3 are quite annoying.

Oops, I should probably test stuff after I change it. I broke the patcher while preventing it from installing on the wrong OS. I attached (down a post) a fixed version for you.

As far as 1) goes, I don't see how that is possible. zStart reinstalls everything when you quit (assuming you are quitting from the initial screen) so I'm not sure how it could be breaking the hooks.

Could you be really specific about what you are doing and what shortcuts stop working? You could also send me a savestate so that I could see what exactly is going on.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #933 on: May 29, 2013, 03:45:27 pm »
Well, I just have to go in the font editor, then pres clear until I get to the home screen. Then I can't use ON+alpha/stat/digit shortcuts. The rest still works though.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #934 on: May 29, 2013, 07:46:01 pm »
Ok, so are you completely sure the number shortcuts don't work? Because I know why the ON + STAT/ALPHA ones weren't working and I attached a fixed version for that. But I see zero reason why the number ones should cut out.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #935 on: May 30, 2013, 02:37:02 am »
I occasionally crash (usually with interesting garbage on the screen) when I press [Y=] in the OS.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #936 on: May 30, 2013, 02:25:21 pm »
(time for the stupid question, and sorry if it was already asked -.-°)

Do you plan on a 84+CSE version ? I am getting tired of archiving/unarchiving/grouping/ungrouping and I miss the label menu (especially because the scrolling is (really) very slow in the program editor) :P

Also, I thought about something. Why not ùaking extensions to zStart in appvars ? Like if people want some feature, they put some appvar in their calc and launch zStart to install the feature, and if they don't want to, they save space (and you save space too in the app) :)
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #937 on: May 30, 2013, 05:24:02 pm »
(time for the stupid question, and sorry if it was already asked -.-°)

Do you plan on a 84+CSE version ? I am getting tired of archiving/unarchiving/grouping/ungrouping and I miss the label menu (especially because the scrolling is (really) very slow in the program editor) :P

No, sorry. I'm probably not even going to get a CSE. If someone wants to port it, have at it. But I'm not going to be the one doing it.

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Also, I thought about something. Why not ùaking extensions to zStart in appvars ? Like if people want some feature, they put some appvar in their calc and launch zStart to install the feature, and if they don't want to, they save space (and you save space too in the app) :)
And don't tell me you don't know how to launch appvars, I won't believe any sentence starting with "I can't" if it comes from you :P

I think I already have this (assuming I understand what you want). It's the "Run on zStart" option. You enable it with ON + 0 and it works just like the ram clear programs.

If that's not what you meant though, you'll have to explain more.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #938 on: May 31, 2013, 01:11:38 am »
(time for the stupid question, and sorry if it was already asked -.-°)

Do you plan on a 84+CSE version ? I am getting tired of archiving/unarchiving/grouping/ungrouping and I miss the label menu (especially because the scrolling is (really) very slow in the program editor) :P

No, sorry. I'm probably not even going to get a CSE. If someone wants to port it, have at it. But I'm not going to be the one doing it.
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Also, I thought about something. Why not making extensions to zStart in appvars ? Like if people want some feature, they put some appvar in their calc and launch zStart to install the feature, and if they don't want to, they save space (and you save space too in the app) :)
And don't tell me you don't know how to launch appvars, I won't believe any sentence starting with "I can't" if it comes from you :P
I think I already have this (assuming I understand what you want). It's the "Run on zStart" option. You enable it with ON + 0 and it works just like the ram clear programs.

If that's not what you meant though, you'll have to explain more.
Well, yeah, that is true indeed, I didn't think about that one :)
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #939 on: June 10, 2013, 01:32:39 pm »
Seeing as Streetwalker still hasn't responded, I'm going to assume I fixed his problem.

Update!!:
  • Fixed - run on ram clear installer
  • Fixed - apd re-enabled when zStart quits


Seeing as I screwed up the OS patcher, you'll probably want to install this version.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #940 on: June 10, 2013, 01:47:48 pm »
Oh sorry I forgot to reply. :P It works perfectly now. :)

Edit : Nope, the patch doesn't do anything. It installs fine but nothing happens on RAM clears. D:
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #941 on: June 14, 2013, 03:08:57 am »
Yay, updates, now i even get to use 'em as I have my z80 calcs again :D

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #942 on: June 20, 2013, 10:28:31 pm »
Hey guys: I made a java version of level8, and would like to share it (It requires that you compile the generated z80 source yourself, though, just to be warned.

All of this must be done in one folder: Just compile ("javac IConvert.java"), use "java IConvert" to run, and enter your complete picture filename (including extension). It can be any type, any size, and can have any number of shades. It will generate an all-blue bmp called "saved.bmp" and also create a z80 source file called <pictureNameMinusExtension>.z80 Just compile with SPASM or the like, and you're done!
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #943 on: June 24, 2013, 01:15:12 pm »
Hey guys: I made a java version of level8, and would like to share it (It requires that you compile the generated z80 source yourself, though, just to be warned.

All of this must be done in one folder: Just compile ("javac IConvert.java"), use "java IConvert" to run, and enter your complete picture filename (including extension). It can be any type, any size, and can have any number of shades. It will generate an all-blue bmp called "saved.bmp" and also create a z80 source file called <pictureNameMinusExtension>.z80 Just compile with SPASM or the like, and you're done!

Well that's pretty cool. Just curious, do you have your own use for this or did you just make it because you could?
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #944 on: June 24, 2013, 01:34:37 pm »
I made it because I had bad side-by-side assemblies on both of my old computers (which means I couldn't run level8). I needed to convert the 8-level pics, so I did!
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