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Calculator Community => Discontinued => Major Community Projects => tiDE => Topic started by: SirCmpwn on November 01, 2010, 06:45:06 pm
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Who wants in? You must be proficient in C#, and have Visual Studio 2010 installed.
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I can't do this, but I'm curious, how different from C++ is C#?
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It's quite a bit different, for one, C# is object oriented.
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For the time being, I can't help, but I am planning on learning C# soon, so...
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Let me know when you've learned C#, I'd be happy for you to help.
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Kay, will do.
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how different are java and c#?
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Very similar. If you know Java, you should be able to easily learn C#.
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well i don't have visual studio so, though i'd love to help, i can't :/
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It's free in express edition, but I'm not sure if it has TFS (also required, for the record).
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Very similar. If you know Java, you should be able to easily learn C#.
Goody. I'm taking AP Computer Science this year and we're going to be using Java, plus I got a book on C#.
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TFS = Team Foundation Server?
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Very similar. If you know Java, you should be able to easily learn C#.
I do in fact know Java though. What is TFS and is it in the free version?
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TFS = Team Foundation Server?
Yep, it's like source control. Graphmastur, I think it may be. You'll have to figure it out on your own, though, look around Google. I can only help with the paid version.
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Sorry if this isn't very on-topic, but at first when I saw TFS it reminded me The F***ing S*** :P
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Very similar. If you know Java, you should be able to easily learn C#.
I do in fact know Java though. What is TFS and is it in the free version?
I don't believe the express version has TFS support, but I could be wrong.
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I've had over 3 years of Java programming...and I've been meaning to get into C# for XNA development. I'm rather busy at the moment and am stuck with my dual bootable mac. Maybe once I got a machine dedicated to Windows 7 I could offer more help.
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Madskillz, great.
FinaleTI, Graphmastur, if the free version doesn't, I fully recommend the paid version, it is an amazing IDE even outside the context of working on this project.
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I know Java, and we've got several books on C# (don't know why; it's not like anyone in our family uses it :D). I'm installing Visual Studio right now (it's Visual C# 2010 Express, right?), so I can help...
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Deep Thought, you got the IDE right. Perhaps you can be our guinea pig for TFS on the free version.
For the record, all of you should be extremely comfortable using C# before actually touching tiDE :)
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I already have 3 years programming experience in c#, and I used VCS Express all the time. It works great! And I don't want to spend such a lot of money to my hobby... I have also recently installed VS 2010, with a trial period of 90 days, from which there are still some 80 days remaining I guess. I would like to help!
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LordConiupiter, I'd love to have you on the team. However, TFS does not work outside of paid versions of Visual Studio. If you are still in school, however, you can look into DreamSpark (https://www.dreamspark.com/default.aspx), which can hook you up with Visual Studio 2010 Professional for free (legit, too).
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Yay! I got the TFS repository merged with subversion, so you can use both to work on tiDE. That means you can combine TortoiseSVN (http://tortoisesvn.net/) with SharpDevelop 4.0 (http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Download/) to work on tiDE.
TortoiseSVN is a subversion client for Windows that integrates with Windows Explorer, and SharpDevelop 4.0 is an open-source .NET IDE similar to Visual Studio, that has support for Visual Studio 2010 project files, and integrates with TortoiseSVN. This means that you can work on tiDE for free! ^-^
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Awesome!
Now to crack open my book on C#...
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Glad to hear. Who's still in the dev team, btw? LordConipuiter seems to have vanished ???
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I know, which saddens me. I sent him a PM, so if he comes back, he is welcome to help. Anyone who wants to help can contact me and I'd be happy to get you set up on source control.
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Yeah I hope he didn't ditch calc stuff. His HoMM RPG saw no updates since the end of the contest. Then his activity dwindled. Hopefully he returns.
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Yay! I got the TFS repository merged with subversion, so you can use both to work on tiDE. That means you can combine TortoiseSVN (http://tortoisesvn.net/) with SharpDevelop 4.0 (http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Download/) to work on tiDE.
TortoiseSVN is a subversion client for Windows that integrates with Windows Explorer, and SharpDevelop 4.0 is an open-source .NET IDE similar to Visual Studio, that has support for Visual Studio 2010 project files, and integrates with TortoiseSVN. This means that you can work on tiDE for free! ^-^
yahooo! And because I'm working with Eeems on oasis which is also a svn. I just don't know if I'll have time, or C# experience. I'll just let this project take it's course. Good luck, SirCmpwn!
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I could help, have Visual Studio C#. HOWEVER, I have limited knowledge on C#.
Are you using the Designer for the GUI?
I really wanna help if you need a mediocre programmer of C# in the team :)
EDIT: I'm now opening VS to get more comfortable with it, so I can help you more Sir. YAY AN EXCUSE to get back to C# after 2 months without touching it!
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ScoutDavid, send me a PM, and yes I am using the designer for most of the GUI.
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ScoutDavid, send me a PM, and yes I am using the designer for most of the GUI.
/me sending PM with information concerning himself
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I could help as well, I have 2½ years of C# experience learnt at school and I own the complete edition of Visual Studio 2008.
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I could help as well, I have 2½ years of C# experience learnt at school and I own the complete edition of Visual Studio 2008.
I wish i had programming classes!!! What kind of school are you in?
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I'm in a CEGEP, some sort of college between high school and university here in Québec, they offers technical programs (like mine, Computer Science - Industrial) or preuniversity programs.
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I'm in a CEGEP, some sort of college between high school and university here in Québec, they offers technical programs (like mine, Computer Science - Industrial) or preuniversity programs.
You're in the same town as DJ, how nice!
I'd like to be in a school like that, but my parents say:
'You're a bright student, you shouldn't go to informatic, you'll be a doctor!!!'
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You're in the same town as DJ, how nice!
Yep, I even met him one time, I think there's a topic about that somewhere.
I'd like to be in a school like that, but my parents say:
'You're a bright student, you shouldn't go to informatic, you'll be a doctor!!!'
Well, same for me. Or maybe I could be a doctor in computer science?
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You're in the same town as DJ, how nice!
Yep, I even met him one time, I think there's a topic about that somewhere.
I'd like to be in a school like that, but my parents say:
'You're a bright student, you shouldn't go to informatic, you'll be a doctor!!!'
Well, same for me. Or maybe I could be a doctor in computer science?
What I want to do of my life:
Develop Medicine Software and Hardware, mainly Software, also I could work as Informatic Engineer in Hospitals, but I'll take a degree on Medicine (Surgeon) and one as Software Engineer :)
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Juju, I would be happy to have you on the team! Unfortunately, Visual Studio 2008 is incompatible with 2010 project files. I would recommend SharpDevelop 4.0+Tortoise SVN, which will work fine.
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Juju, I would be happy to have you on the team! Unfortunately, Visual Studio 2008 is incompatible with 2010 project files. I would recommend SharpDevelop 4.0+Tortoise SVN, which will work fine.
In fact, Juju helped me this day with going from Visual Studio to SharpDev, since SharpDev doesn't make automatic statements for Windows Forms, unlike Visual Sudio (using system; using system.windows.forms;)
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Juju, I would be happy to have you on the team! Unfortunately, Visual Studio 2008 is incompatible with 2010 project files. I would recommend SharpDevelop 4.0+Tortoise SVN, which will work fine.
I could get Visual Studio 2010 from DreamSpark, but, unfortunately, my school deprecated the usage of Groupwise in favor of some email address-less internal messaging system thingy this year...
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I'm sorry :( in that case, sharpdevelop is probably the way to go.
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I'm sorry :( in that case, sharpdevelop is probably the way to go.
I'm really enjoying Sharpdev :)
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You're in the same town as DJ, how nice!
Yep, I even met him one time, I think there's a topic about that somewhere.
http://ourl.ca/7275
(Also, in Quebec, there are one additional level of school between hi school and college: professional school. If you take those classes you can major in something too but it is mostly for manual work, like soldering, or computer help stuff that doesn't involve creation. It's cheaper and usually lasts shorter, but sometimes you have summer school.)
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Welcome to the team, ScoutDavid.
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Welcome to the team, ScoutDavid.
Thanks.
I'll be working a lot in C# from now on. I'm glad I was given teh change to work for such a big project, that's progressing well (30% in your signature).
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Glad to see you in the team. :)
So is there a list of who is part of the team so we know from who to steal code from? ;D
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List of people from who you can steal the source (http://tidenv.codeplex.com/team/view)
Not me, I don't have it.
Wait, it's a open source code:
You don't have to steal it! (http://tidenv.codeplex.com/SourceControl/list/changesets)
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I was kidding, but I was wondering who was part of the team. Thanks for the link. :)
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I was kidding, but I was wondering who was part of the team. Thanks for the link. :)
Not many people, though. I don't know the other contributor :S!
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And I don't really know you :S let's try to change that :P....
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And I don't really know you :S let's try to change that :P....
Fixed.
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And I don't really know you :S let's try to change that :P....
You need to visit the forums more often once again D:
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And I don't really know you :S let's try to change that :P....
You need to visit the forums more often once again D:
I knew him already, afterall. I mean, I didn't, but whenever he posted I'd glance at his signature...
"I and me is two. We also feel like two." I love this sentence
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Oh ok, I meant about talking to him and stuff. From his posts we can know the person a bit more, though.
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Oh ok, I meant about talking to him and stuff. From his posts we can know the person a bit more, though.
I'm still trying to get in contact with him by e-mail, with no luck.
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Aw sorry to hear. Did you try PM?
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Aw sorry to hear. Did you try PM?
PM requesting email adress with no response so far.
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So no response via both e-mail and PM? ??? That sucks. I guess maybe he'll be kicked out of the team if he doesn't do anything or ignore any communications, though. X.x
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So no response via both e-mail and PM? ??? That sucks. I guess maybe he'll be kicked out of the team if he doesn't do anything or ignore any communications, though. X.x
No! Of course not, it was just a matter of time since he's just PM'd me.
If someone were to be kicked, then it would be me, the one with less C# knowledge.
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I responded... and I'm sorry I have been not very active on these forums for some time, but I just am a little bit busy right now...
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I responded... and I'm sorry I have been not very active on these forums for some time, but I just am a little bit busy right now...
Now we're chatting about C# and my work.
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So no response via both e-mail and PM? ??? That sucks. I guess maybe he'll be kicked out of the team if he doesn't do anything or ignore any communications, though. X.x
No! Of course not, it was just a matter of time since he's just PM'd me.
Ah ok I'm glad to hear. Some people ignores PM/e-mails completely, even on purpose, sometimes, or just won't respond at all. That can be bad because it sounds like the person doesn't care.I responded... and I'm sorry I have been not very active on these forums for some time, but I just am a little bit busy right now...
I see, I hope you are less busy soon. :(
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@ ScoutDavid: congrats at your 1337's post :P
@ DJ: yes, I'm becoming less busy. I'm even busy with trying to get less busy j/k :P
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I could join the time when I'll get less busy, next week or so.
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I could join the time when I'll get less busy, next week or so.
Great, a new member
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I would like to arrange a conference call with the team to discuss tiDE. What times best suit everyone?
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I would like to arrange a conference call with the team to discuss tiDE. What times best suit everyone?
Conference call, Skype or anything like that right?
It would be nice, but only after I finish tests (11December is the first non-test day)-
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Probably just with phones, or some other method to get us all talking to each other for about an hour.
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Probably just with phones, or some other method to get us all talking to each other for about an hour.
skype works best. I'd probably just listen in on the conversation. I wish I could be on this team, though. I can test if you want, though.
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Probably just with phones, or some other method to get us all talking to each other for about an hour.
I would prefer it to be Skype or sth like that. A phone would be too expensive, since we are all in different countries.
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I agree, Skype is perfect for this genre of conversations. Phones would be just too expensive for some people and it would be hard to talk to more than 3 persons at the same time. Or maybe even TeamSpeak, if you want to talk like you can join/part IRC.
And yeah, this is the end of the semester, lots of exams and all to prepare, so it will be best to begin after the end of school, which is sometime around next week for me.
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I agree, Skype is perfect for this genre of conversations. Phones would be just too expensive for some people and it would be hard to talk to more than 3 persons at the same time. Or maybe even TeamSpeak, if you want to talk like you can join/part IRC.
I have both TeamSpeak and Skype xD
We still need to know what Lord would prefer, though.
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Wouldn't holding a convo on Skype/phone/teamspeak/vent be hard with everyone speaking a different language than english as native language, though? O.O I know myself I had troubles listening when I had skype conferences or during HCWP conferences on Cemetech, which is why I tend to not join them very often.
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Well, I feel that instant chat just isn't the best medium for this sort of discussion.
Also, Lord and Scout, can you look over this (http://tidenv.codeplex.com/discussions?ProjectName=tidenv), please? You'll need to be logged in to see anything.
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Right. I guess I also understand since you cannot use instant chat all the time either. (parents) X.x
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Well, I feel that instant chat just isn't the best medium for this sort of discussion.
Also, Lord and Scout, can you look over this (http://tidenv.codeplex.com/discussions?ProjectName=tidenv), please? You'll need to be logged in to see anything.
I already did :)
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So I officially joined the team yesterday. Today I went to the technical support of my school and they say they won't give out email addresses anymore... So I no longer can sign up to Dreamspark to get Visual Studio 2010... I should ask the technician in charge of the MSDNAA program to see if they have any VS2010 ISOs. They give out VS2005 and 2008 through MSDNAA but not 2010...
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Ouch, sorry to hear, I hope you can manage to get a copy in some ways... it would suck if you had to quit the tiDE dev team due to not being able to get a copy of VS2010...
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Please try the SharpDevelop 4.0 + TortoiseSVN combo I have been recommending. The whole setup is free.
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So I officially joined the team yesterday. Today I went to the technical support of my school and they say they won't give out email addresses anymore... So I no longer can sign up to Dreamspark to get Visual Studio 2010... I should ask the technician in charge of the MSDNAA program to see if they have any VS2010 ISOs. They give out VS2005 and 2008 through MSDNAA but not 2010...
My school makes the whole package available for free download. Wish I could legally send it to you.
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So I officially joined the team yesterday. Today I went to the technical support of my school and they say they won't give out email addresses anymore... So I no longer can sign up to Dreamspark to get Visual Studio 2010... I should ask the technician in charge of the MSDNAA program to see if they have any VS2010 ISOs. They give out VS2005 and 2008 through MSDNAA but not 2010...
My school makes the whole package available for free download. Wish I could legally send it to you.
SharpDevelop is free :)
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yes, SharpDevelop is the ultimate solution!
BTW: about chatting with each other and planning etc. :
I prefer Gmail chat. Further I don't have Skype, but I have pidgin installed, so I can chat with an enormous buch of other chat types...
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I prefer Gmail chat. Further I don't have Skype, but I have pidgin installed, so I can chat with an enormous buch of other chat types...
Well, Sir wants a spoken conversation, which I also prefer :)
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That's possible with pidgin, and also in Gmail Chat: Video Chat
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That's possible with pidgin, and also in Gmail Chat: Video Chat
Lord, I wonder how old are you? (answer By PM or Email if you prefer)
I am not interested in video conversation, only spoken.
We could also use MSN
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yes, that's possible...
and my age is one of the first things I told you in my first email ;)
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yes, that's possible...
and my age is one of the first things I told you in my first email ;)
which I can't find.
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ok, Im 17.
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Speaking of email, I don't think I have yours...
Also, I will figure out some method of cheaply having a discussion about this. Just tell me what times are good for you all.
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Ouch, sorry to hear, I hope you can manage to get a copy in some ways... it would suck if you had to quit the tiDE dev team due to not being able to get a copy of VS2010...
Well, yeah, I could always install SharpDevelop if I can't get VS2010, but the tech guy said he might add copies of VS2010 on the hard drives if it's available (which I'm fairly sure it is, since he would just download it from the Microsoft servers).
And about chatting, I have Skype, Google Chat (never really use it), MSN, Teamspeak, IRC, name it... So it's easy to get in touch with me. Also have a webcam if you want.
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That's good to hear. Hopefully the team is setup soon and the voice chat occurs without too much hassle.
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Saw it, and I like it. That's a good way to communicate for this project IMO.
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I still need date/time that people are available :P
Also, try to keep in touch on the Codeplex forum I set up, that is the only forum *in the world* where only team members can discuss things. ;)
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I'll do that. But I think it will be not too easy to find a date+time all people are available, since we're all in different time zones...
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I'll do that. But I think it will be not too easy to find a date+time all people are available, since we're all in different time zones...
Hm, seems I have the same timezone as ScoutDavid and am 2 timezones away from SirCmpwn, so that's kinda OK, looks like LordConiupiter makes the problem by actually being in Europe, 6 timezones away. But still, I used to work with Europeans without problem.
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how could it be then that ScoutDavid is just one timezone away from me? or am I wrong at this point?
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Well, if you look at his profile, his local time is the same as mine...
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Maybe he never set his profile time correctly?
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yeah, that's the problem then I guess
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I am at GMT0, which is not the forum's I think. At least, that's why I have many posts a day xD
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Can I just have a time that works for you guys? We can figure out timezone conflicts later x.x
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Can I just have a time that works for you guys? We can figure out timezone conflicts later x.x
11nd December afternoon europe (afternoon in the USA) is perfect for me.
Also, 11nd December morning europe (night in the USA) is also great.
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*th
Sounds good for me. Others?
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Yeah yeah, double post. Whatever.
Here's a userbar for developers, if they are interested:
(http://userbars.removedfromgame.com/userbars.php?bg=custom&msg=tiDE%3A%20Developer&bgurl=http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/tideuserbar.png)
http://userbars.removedfromgame.com/userbars.php?bg=custom&msg=tiDE%3A%20Developer&bgurl=http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/tideuserbar.png
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Yeah yeah, double post. Whatever.
Here's a userbar for developers, if they are interested:
(http://userbars.removedfromgame.com/userbars.php?bg=custom&msg=tiDE%3A%20Developer&bgurl=http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/tideuserbar.png)
http://userbars.removedfromgame.com/userbars.php?bg=custom&msg=tiDE%3A%20Developer&bgurl=http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/tideuserbar.png
Wow! Very good, gonna get my self a Contributor one, or whatever my rank is :D
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Developer for everyone.
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Updated my signature!
EDIT: Linked to tiDE
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11th december is a very busy day for me. I have to work every saturday from 6:30 till 18:30, so that's not really an option. Friday 10th is also no option. Any other day would be possible for me, as far as i know right now...
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11th december is a very busy day for me. I have to work every saturday from 6:30 till 18:30, so that's not really an option. Friday 10th is also no option. Any other day would be possible for me, as far as i know right now...
12th for me works fine too!
EDIT: Check your signature please.
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I would prefer the 14th, or the 9th.
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o, forgot to mention that: I'm christian, and I like to keep sundays for GOD and my family...
14th is best out of those both for me.
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o, forgot to mention that: I'm christian, and I like to keep sundays for GOD and my family...
14th is best out of those both for me.
That was... that was... well, I'm atheist I don't celebrate Christmas.
I can only do it on weekends or wedsndey, thursdy or friday afternoon (europe, morning USA)
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I'm an atheist, but my family isn't, and we celebrate Christmas.
The 16th? It seems a bit far away, though.
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I'm an atheist, but my family isn't, and we celebrate Christmas.
The 16th? It seems a bit far away, though.
Well, that's the matter, in my country 30% are atheists (I suppose). From those 30% I am the only one who doesn't celebrate Christmas at all.
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Sweet, an userbar. :3
Well, I'm Catholic, but like most people, I'm not praticant a lot, but I like to take my Sundays off for resting, much like how God rested on the seventh day of the Creation.
Also, everyday after 11th will do for me. The semester is finishing fast...
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Sweet, an userbar. :3
Well, I'm Catholic, but like most people, I'm not praticant a lot, but I like to take my Sundays off for resting, much like how God rested on the seventh day of the Creation.
Also, everyday after 11th will do for me. The semester is finishing fast...
I have nothing against religions, only against people who are in religions which require practice and then say they are not practicers. This is wrong.
I'm atheist and I've read the bible from first word to last twice. I know you have to practice. I've also read the Qu'ran, muslims need practice too.
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/me steers this back on topic
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How did a calc project topic turns into a religion topic? O.O
Anyway, that last comment (the first sentence) was a bit rude. People have the right to do what they want. I rated it down.
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I think is't an opinion which should be confirmed, but who am I to judge?
16th will do for me, but not in the evening....
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Oh I meant ScoutDavid said he had something against people who have a religion (like catholics) and believe in something but don't go to church/pray. I think we have the right to freedom, too. Attacking Juju because he doesn't practice was uncalled for. Plus it's hard to go to church on a Sunday when you work all day long anyway. (Unless stores are closed on Sundays in your country)
ANyway, back on topic, this is the second last time Scout does this anyway on Omni. Else if he does it again Sir will have to use e-mail to contact him. Regardless of what happen, good luck setting up a time to discuss together about tiDE, people.
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Sweet, an userbar. :3
Well, I'm Catholic, but like most people, I'm not praticant a lot, but I like to take my Sundays off for resting, much like how God rested on the seventh day of the Creation.
Also, everyday after 11th will do for me. The semester is finishing fast...
I have nothing against religions, only against people who are in religions which require practice and then say they are not practicers. This is wrong.
I'm atheist and I've read the bible from first word to last twice. I know you have to practice. I've also read the Qu'ran, muslims need practice too.
Bad grammar:
I have nothing against religions or people who are religious, I have something against the fact that a lot of people (not against people itself, I respect their opinion, but can't understand it) say they are religious and non-practicant. There are, indeed, religions which do not require practice, but Christiniamism does.
Concerning this, it's not against people itself. It's the 'movement' (I can't say it in English, it's like when lots of people start doing the same thing, a kind of revolution) I don't understand.
It's the same thing with football clubs: In my country people who are from one club say that people who are from other club are ****** and *******. I'm a football fan and I usually say: I have nothing against people who support football club X, only the club itself.
So, I hope you understand my grammar error which meant no harm.
I'm sorry Juju if you couldn't understand what I meant to say (which probably nobody did because the way the post was written is quite wrong).
I have an idea to get over this 'time we are available thing'.
We could make an EXCEL schedule, but it would be better if Sir said:
Who can?
a) day X, hours y
b) day X, hours y
c) day X, hours y
d) day X, hours y
e) day X, hours y
And each of us would say when we can. I think that's the best way of putting terms with this thing.
Once again, I apologize.
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okay, now I understand DJ, and also SD, though I would never vote a post down about religious cases.
I think everything is clear now, and he apologized...
To go back on topic: is december 16th possible for everyone of the team?
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okay, now I understand, though I would never vote a post down about religious cases.
To go back on topic: is december 16th possible for everyone of the team?
I can the 16th, but in European Afternoon only.
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I see ScoutDavid, it sounded like you were attacking the person, not the idea. Just remember when you post about something you dislike that people do, you should maybe use "I hate when people do that" instead of "I hate people who do that", when you dislike the action. We tend to say the latter most of the time because it is shorter but it can make some people feel unwelcome or something. Anyway apology accepted, just be careful in the future.
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I can do the 16th, 2:30 MST or later.
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am or pm? or 24 hourscale? I live in the Netherlands, so that would be 8:30 for me, right? or 20:30?
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PM, sorry.
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20:30 for me...
I need to talk to my parents, then.
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I am currently in wintertime, but I'm not sure what time this would be for me. I really am very bad at calculating times :(
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I am currently in wintertime, but I'm not sure what time this would be for me. I really am very bad at calculating times :(
xD I can do it on 16th 20:30 PM :D
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That means 19:30 GMT and 14:30 EDT, I could be there. Also, could be a good idea to give all times in GMT, so everyone would easily convert their times fom there.
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That means 19:30 GMT and 14:30 EDT, I could be there. Also, could be a good idea to give all times in GMT, so everyone would easily convert their times fom there.
All times in GMT 0 (oh yeah)
19:30 GMT 0 is what we talking about.
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That's 12:30PM for me, smack dab in the middle of school, in the middle of a final. However, I took that final early, so I may be able to convince my teacher to let me sneak away to make a phone call. That will make phone call my only means of talking with you guys, though.
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That's 12:30PM for me, smack dab in the middle of school, in the middle of a final. However, I took that final early, so I may be able to convince my teacher to let me sneak away to make a phone call. That will make phone call my only means of talking with you guys, though.
No way. It's so hard to make a schedule that works with you and us due to different timetables.
Sir, post 7 times during the next week or two you can talk to us. Then we answer which ones we can. We look then for one that all have agreed.
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My schedule is pretty regular, here is my week. All times are GMT-7, or Mountain Standard Time.
Friday: 2:30PM-6:30PM
Saturday: 6:00PM-10:PM
Sunday: Same as 13th
Monday: Same as Friday
Tuesday: 2:30PM-10:00PM
Wednesday: Same as Monday
Thursday: Same as Tuesday
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My schedule is pretty regular, here is my week. All times are GMT-7, or Mountain Standard Time.
Friday: 2:30PM-6:30PM
Saturday: 6:00PM-10:PM
Sunday: Same as 13th
Monday: Same as Friday
Tuesday: 2:30PM-10:00PM
Wednesday: Same as Monday
Thursday: Same as Tuesday
I recommend a Saturday morning.
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I work all saturday long, so that's no option for me...
Sunday isn't either, as i already explained
on monday I have abusy day, so that day is not possible for me.
all the other days are regularly possible for me from 2:30 till 5:30PM GMT, since I allways have something every evening...
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Maybe do it separately with each people? It looks like it's the only option... X.x
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Maybe do it separately with each people? It looks like it's the only option... X.x
I agree, because there is not a single time that matches everyone, it seems :S
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Okay, that sounds fine. Within the times I specified being free, when is best for each of you?
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Okay, that sounds fine. Within the times I specified being free, when is best for each of you?
I already said Saturday :D
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And what time? I'd like to get a nice list. Please include timezone.
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And what time? I'd like to get a nice list. Please include timezone.
Saturday from 10AM to 18PM, at GMT 0.
Sunday from 10AM to 18PM, at GMT 0.
Friday from 15PM to 18PM, at GMT 0.
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I can do 17PM GMT0 tomorrow with ScoutDavid. Please email me with your skype id.
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I got the full edition of VS2010 yesterday, installing it right after I'll reboot my computer.
For me, I'll be there anytime from 16PM to 5-6AM (GMT) starting from now, except Monday and Tuesday, where I'll be there from 18PM, and even some undisclosed absences.
I'll try to be there at the same time as ScoutDavid, would be nice.
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I already posted my list; here (http://ourl.ca/7710/151789) it is.
an I also posted something at codeplex!
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Screw the call, this isn't going to work across so many timezones. The basic idea is that your code must reflect that of Codeplexes. I've been programming under source control for far too long to let something stupid like file conflicts ruin a project. When you start up your IDE, you will get the latest version from SVN/TFS. Before you close your IDE, you will commit/check-in your code. If you make a major change or add a major feature, you should commit/check-in when you finish it, even if you aren't ready to stop working. This is outrageously important. Entire projects can become screwed when file conflicts aren't well handled.
If you have any other questions, or would like to talk about the project, please PM me.
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Screw the call, this isn't going to work across so many timezones. The basic idea is that your code must reflect that of Codeplexes. I've been programming under source control for far too long to let something stupid like file conflicts ruin a project. When you start up your IDE, you will get the latest version from SVN/TFS. Before you close your IDE, you will commit/check-in your code. If you make a major change or add a major feature, you should commit/check-in when you finish it, even if you aren't ready to stop working. This is outrageously important. Entire projects can become screwed when file conflicts aren't well handled.
If you have any other questions, or would like to talk about the project, please PM me.
Yeah I'M afraid it migth just be impossible because some have other activities at different times or different timezones, so you would still have to explain people everything one by one. X.x
Alternatively, there's the possibility to send PMs to multiple people at once, but then you must ensure everyone reply to everyone as well.
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Yeah, we'll do fine with the project board on Codeplex.
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Ah ok, will the people work on it during your absence?
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Guys, there has been zero work on this in my absence. I'm disappointed.
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Guys, there has been zero work on this in my absence. I'm disappointed.
Sir, if you could have had answered my final e-mail.
Can I upload new tiDE by this: http://tidenv.codeplex.com/SourceControl/list/changesets
And then >>Upload Patches.
If I can I'll sure work on it!
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If you email me your changes, I can check them in.
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But that thing with the upload won't make the changes automatically like the SVN?
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No, it won't. Keep looking into DreamSpark, though. You could also look into alternative ways to SVN.
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No, it won't. Keep looking into DreamSpark, though. You could also look into alternative ways to SVN.
I will have to, I may look for it still today.
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Guys, there has been zero work on this in my absence. I'm disappointed.
right now I'm just sandboxing around in another project to get stuff working. That's because I don't want the project to be screwed.
I just updated my first piece of code.
EDIT: YEAH :w00t: YEAH!!!!
I got signed in on DreamSpark, and got Visual Studio Professional for free!!!
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Visual Studio Express *is* free, and doesn't have source control :(
Also, dont worry about screwing anything up. I can revert changes if need be.
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I will convince my dad to buy me Pro, he's bought programming tools for me before, I hope he does it again for the Visual Studio C# Express Pro :)
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I edited it. I just was too amazed it worked, that I typed the wrong word :D
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Visual Studio Express *is* free, and doesn't have source control :(
Also, dont worry about screwing anything up. I can revert changes if need be.
Really? I didn't expect M$ to give away those. Does it let you program and stuff? Or is source control the ability to code? I know they got some softwares that lets you view documents but not edit them, kinda like Adobe with Acrobat Reader.
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M$ even gives away a Visual Basic .NET and a C# compiler in your installation of the .NET framework. Visual Studio Express just gives out the text editor and the tools to work with those compilers. The Pro version give more fancy and obscure options to test your program and everything to work in teams and all.
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Wow... if only I knew that back when I did VB6 stuff (unless they didn't do that back then?)... I would certainly have done some VB stuff again.
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Hello everybody! I am just posting to let you know I'll be working again on tiDE for now, my father FINALLY bought me Visual Studio Professional!
I'm so happy! I know it has source control, but still haven't figured out how to use it, in fact, I didn't notice many changes from the Express version...
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Reciting from memory, so forgive me if it's wrong. You should click Team on the menu bar, and connect to team server. Enter the information you see on Codeplexes source code page for TFS.
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Hello everybody! I am just posting to let you know I'll be working again on tiDE for now, my father FINALLY bought me Visual Studio Professional!
I'm so happy! I know it has source control, but still haven't figured out how to use it, in fact, I didn't notice many changes from the Express version...
Cool to hear! :D Good luck with it. :)
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Reciting from memory, so forgive me if it's wrong. You should click Team on the menu bar, and connect to team server. Enter the information you see on Codeplexes source code page for TFS.
When I open project tiDE in this new program, it immediatly asks me for Username and Password :S
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Use snd\username_cp, where username is your Codeplex username, and use your Codeplex password.
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Yeah Sir, in the Source Control page, everything is detailedly explained. I have successfully connected to SVN, it's great!
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Sorry for double post, but I can't upload stuff. I mean, I am connected to the server, but can't really upload things, I mean, I don't know how to. Anybody knows how to? I made changes, and would like to upload them.
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The first error is due to the project not finding the main method. Your project settings probably don't have it defined.
As for the second error, make sure you have proper privileges. If you do have privileges to upload, then there's probably a way to do it inside whatever IDE you are using.
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In Visual Studio, open Pending Changes, type a summary of your work, and click check in.
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Yeah, I already figured that out and uploaded :)
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No one is to touch tiDE until we can talk about it. I spent two hours fixing the source tree. I'm not happy. I thought I made it clear how important certain things were.
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No one is to touch tiDE until we can talk about it. I spent two hours fixing the source tree. I'm not happy. I thought I made it clear how important certain things were.
Well, good luck with your project. This is why team stuff is difficult. If you wanted, you could just write a program that ran on their system that force-uploaded/downloaded every hour.
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I could, yes, but won't. 1) It's just wrong and 2) there would be all sorts of conflicts.
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Yeah, that thing is kinda hard to recover when you screw up, so now we know what to do next time.
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I hope you can manage to get it understood. Some stuff might be harder to understand for some people than others. I hope nothing too bad happens again in the future, though.
I personally don't like team projects much, but mostly for other reasons, such as how hard it can be to keep in touch and also people vanishing off the face of the Earth.
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Okay, here's what needs to happen. Each team member will follow these steps to fix the current issues. You only have to do this once:
For Visual Studio 2010 Users:
1. Open Visual Studio. Connect to Team Foundation Server using the same credentials as always. If it does not automatically prompt you for your password, you can find this under the Team menu. Connect to the Codeplex server.
2. Go to Source Control Explorer (this can be found under the View>Other Windows menu)
3. Expand tfs.codeplex.com\TFS14
4. Right click on tidenv, and select "Remove Mapping." Click "Remove Mapping" in the dialog box that opens.
5. Go to your local copy of tiDE and delete the entire folder. (For me, it's D:\tidenv).
6. Back in Visual Studio, right click on tidenv, and click "Get Latest Version"
7. In the dialog box that appears, enter D:\tidenv for the folder if you have a D: partition on your hard drive. If you don't, use C:\tidenv.
This should fix the problems on your local machine. This is how we will keep these problems from occurring again:
Every time you sit down to work on tiDE, you will follow these steps. If you do not, we will get another problem like the one that required two hours of my time to fix.
1. Open Visual Studio.
2. Connect to Team Foundation Server, the same way as described above.
3. Open Source Control Explorer.
4. Expand tfs.codeplex.com\TFS14
5. Right click on tidenv and click "Get Latest Version"
6. Expand tidenv, and click on "tiDE"
7. In the right hand panel, double click on tiDE.sln to open the project
8. Code. Make your changes to tiDE like you would a local project, and Visual Studio will automatically keep track of your changes. Before you close Visual Studio, you must proceed to step 9.
9. If the Pending Changes panel is not visible to you, open it in the View>Other Windows menu.
10. Add a comment to the text box on top. You should see a summary of your changes on the bottom panel of this window. If you don't see this, make sure that the top icon of those on the left is selected. If you should ever need to revert your changes to the server version, right click the appropriate file and click "Undo."
11. Once you have a comment, ensure that every file is selected, and click on Check-In. You can quickly select all files by clicking the top file, Shift+Clicking the bottom file, and toggling the check mark on all of them at once.
12. After clicking check-in, your changes will be added to the server at Codeplex. Even if a feature is unfinished, or you are only partially done working, please do this anyway. You are now free to close Visual Studio.
I will add instructions for SharpDevelop users once I get them figured out. I'm not too experienced with SharpDevelop on Source Control.
All of the team has been temporarily revoked write-access to the TFS server. Once I get confirmation that you understand and will follow these instructions, I will grant write-access again.
tl;dr: This is important. Read the whole damn thing.
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Thanks for these clear instructions, Sir.
Will do as soon as possible.
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Thanks for the response. Just let me know when you have completed the first part and understand the second, and I'll grant you access.
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ok thanks! Last time I tried connecting to codeplex, I couldn't find the tide source control folder at all, but I hope that will be fixed now...
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That's exactly what I did when I first uploaded changes. However, I used a build that was not correct, but everything was fixed now.
I also need to save it in D:\tidenv, since I have it Documents\Scout David\C#\tiDE. Thanks.
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Sounds good, guys.
Just let me know when you have completed the first part and understand the second, and I'll grant you access.
I need you guys to explicitly say that you have completed the first set of instructions to recover, and that you understand and will follow the second set of instructions.
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I followed all the instructions! Got it working!
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I followed all the instructions! Got it working!
Maybe I should say that I have too, but I've already told that to Sir.
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Sounds good, guys.
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Oh right. I did what you said there this week and somehow, it glitched somewhere...
There's nothing appearing in the Team Server tab after I connect, not even the server, but tidenv is checked when I click on new server...
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I know C# and have a strong grasp on object oriented programming thanks to benr
I can help I guess :D
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Sure, go make a Codeplex (http://www.codeplex.com) account and apply for the team at the tiDE site (http://tidenv.codeplex.com).
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Ok, made an account and requested
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Alright, I'll add you. Please read this (http://ourl.ca/7710/161630) post and tell me that you fully understand it before starting work.
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I do not know how how to connect to the server, other than that I understand what to do
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Use Visual Studio, and go to Team>Connect to Team Foundation Server, then follow the instructions on the Codeplex Source Code page.
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ok, I cannot find the "remove mapping" thing step four. I have not touched any of the code yet, I just "got" the files onto C:\tidenv
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Yeah, those instructions are for users who have already gotten it, to fix the previous problems. You should be able to just move on to the second set of instructions.
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oh, ok, Got it. So just to be sure, now that I got the files and stuff, I can just close out of Visual Studio now that I am done?
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Yes, you can, assuming you made no changes.
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I did not even touch the code.
one more thing, just to be sure, the copy of the files on my computer are free for me to change/f**k up as much as I want and iti s only with the files on the server I should be careful with? (sorry if there are to many questions, I just dont wanna screw anything up x.x)
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You can modify them if you wish, and if you don't want the changes to show up, you have to undo them via the Pending Changes window in Visual Studio. If you want to change them, and want to keep your changes without reflecting them on the server, download the source code directly (outside of TFS) and modify it there.
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so wait, the local files on my computer are linked to the files on the server?
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Yes, in a manner of speaking. Copy them somewhere else if you want to edit them outside of "official" work on tiDE.
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k
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There is somthing I need to say: next 4 weeks I'll be ery busy for school, since I've got to read 8 books for my dutch lirature exam, and besides that also have another project in c# for school, which has to be finished 20th Feb. or so, and many many things more... after that I'll be back, but in the mean time I will keep up with the project, i.e. look what's done and how it's done, and perhaps code a little, but within a month I'll start coding (again). I'm sorry that I wrote so little code until now. :( I wished I had more time! But I'm not the only one I guess... :P
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Sorry to hear, I hope you get more free time afterward.
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Yeah, hope that when you come you can work more ;D
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Hey, i installed sharpdevelop. Do you have ibstructions on how to get get and test tiDE?
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Download the latest source code at http://tidenv.codeplex.com (http://tidenv.codeplex.com) and use #D to open tiDE.sln. You can hit F5 to build and run it.
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Hey, i installed sharpdevelop. Do you have ibstructions on how to get get and test tiDE?
If you don't want to mess with source code, go to tiDE, bin, Debug, tide.exe :D
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He has to build it first :P
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Hey, i installed sharpdevelop. Do you have ibstructions on how to get get and test tiDE?
If you don't want to mess with source code, go to tiDE, bin, Debug, tide.exe :D
There was nothing in the debug folder.
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Like I said, you need to build, or compile, the source code first. I'll get you the binaries when I have the chance.
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Like I said, you need to build, or compile, the source code first. I'll get you the binaries when I have the chance.
Hey, i installed sharpdevelop. Do you have ibstructions on how to get get and test tiDE?
If you don't want to mess with source code, go to tiDE, bin, Debug, tide.exe :D
There was nothing in the debug folder.
Sorry my mistake.