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CSE support for Wabbitemu ?

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MacBernick:
I'd be very interested too, even if not so young anymore :p

DJ Omnimaga:

--- Quote from: LunarFire on January 16, 2014, 05:26:30 pm ---I think at some point it will be inevitable to have CSE support for the emulator to keep living, as more and more people will (or will have to) buy the CSE. We already have dreamdragon who is one of the early users interested in development for the CSE, and we have to expect more young people to come here expecting to find programs and development tools for the CSE. If Wabbitemu does not add support for the CSE, some people will prefer others that do like TilEm2 and jsTIfied.

So should WabbitEmu support CSE? Definitively.

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actually after the 83+ came out, it took 6 years until an accurate emu with grayscale support come out. O.O

Lunar Fire:
This is not comparable with the CSE case. Grayscale was not a feature of the TI-83+, but rather a software hack that was possible because of the way the LCD display works.

The color display is the central point of the CSE. They even named the calculator after this. Without color support it is yet another TI-84. Without grayscale 99% of the programs for the TI-83 can be properly emulated. So maybe it took some time for grayscale support to finally be implemented in an emulator, but that's because it was not a key feature.

DJ Omnimaga:
Indeed, but that's not the point. The point is that it took 6 years after the 83+ release before we finally got a decent 83+ emulator. Until 2005, all we had as 83+ emulators were the following:

-VirtualTI 2.5: No archive support. Didn't run on anything else than OS 1.12. No contrast support.
-Virtual TI 3.0 Alpha: No linking support. Programs had to be included with the ROM and the only ROM dumper was built-in 2.5, and took 30 minutes to dump ROMs (and was so sensitive that even typing 1 character in an empty Notepad file could corrupt your ROM dump). No contrast support.
-Original version of TilEm: No Windows version until 2004 and the 2004 one was very buggy. No contrast support.
-Flash Debugger: Most programs did not work. No multi-keypress support and no grayscale. No contrast support.

Then in 2005, we got PindurTI. It lacked support for sending programs with the Archive flag ON and had no SE/84+ support. WabbitEmu, even as of today, has problems with contrast. Tilem seems fine, though, but I haven't tested it thoroughly.

In conclusion, my point is that if it took 6 years before we finally get a TI-83+ emulator that is reliable. What might speed things up is how the 83+ series is heavily documented, which wasn't the case as much from 1999 to 2005.

That said, for the CSE jsTIfied already does a very good job, so I guess if Kerm is interested to share some hints with Buckeye, 84+CSE support could easily be added.

Hayleia:

--- Quote from: chickendude on January 16, 2014, 02:03:40 pm ---I don't know that TilEm2 work on CSE support has stopped, at least the last CSE related commit was from 4 months ago. I don't have a CSE to test it out, so i can't comment on how accurate it is. But if you've got a linux partition it'd be worth at least testing.

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Well I have a Linux partition, but the fact is that I code on Windows due to TokenIDE only being available for that OS (well I am talking about Axe, and Axe is not available yet on the CSE so that doesn't make much of a difference) and I would rather avoid having to wait for 15s rebooting each time I want to test my program, then 15s again when modifying one line.
Asm programming wouldn't be a problem on Linux though.

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