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Calculator Community => TI Calculators => General Calculator Help => Topic started by: yoshi13 on May 03, 2010, 07:02:45 am
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I have version 1.1.9 on my nspire-cas calculator which I have heard allows ndless to be installed but everytime i try to install it is says in need to downgrade to version 1.1. ?
Is there anyway to fix this?
Thanks,
Yoshi
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I think that Ndless requires an even more old version of the 1.1 OS.
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Really...... that sucks on the website i downloaded it form it said ndless support for version 1.1.9.
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I was just looking around and saw this: http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=8191&st=300
ExtendeD says he is using v 1.1.9 back in 2009 so i think it should work.
Edit:
I was just reading through the source files and is had a header for os_cas_1.1.9170 the same version I am using
Edit 2:
I was going through the source files and I can only find it checking if the version is 1.1.9253 which is only available for non cas nspire calculators, did I just miss the cas calculator part or does ndless only work with non cas nspire calculators
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Ndless works on 1.1.x, the x doesn't matter and we usually just say 1.1
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If the problem isn't in the OS, then I don't know really what else could be causing this. I myself own a non-CAS Nspire, on which Ndless worked perfectly, so I don't really have any experience with the CAS version.
I have a friend with the CAS one and Ndless works perfectly on it. I have no idea why it isn't working an your calc.
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1.1.9 is definitively 1.1 too and the one required to install Ndless. In fact, this is what I got too.
Did you use TI-Nspire Computer Link Software version 1.3? Ndless won't run on 1.4. http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=440
If you got 1.4, uninstall it completly then install the above. Do not plug your calc until 1.3 is installed completly.
Also, if you use Windows 7 you will need to do this to get 1.3 to run on it (1.3 wasn't compatible with Windows 7): http://ourl.ca/4200/77438
If this is not the problem you have, then I'm not sure what is it. x.x
I also moved this to the Calc help and support, since it was located in the wrong sub-forum.
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If you got 1.4, uninstall it completly then install the above. Do not plug your calc until 1.3 is installed completly.
Not necessary. You can install both version on the same computer in two seperate directories, it works perfectly :) (same for TI Nspire Computer Software 1.7 and 2.0)
Also, if you use Windows 7 you will need to do this to get 1.3 to run on it (1.3 wasn't compatible with Windows 7): http://ourl.ca/4200/77438
1.3 is compatible Windows 7 64 bits. You just have to get the Vista Driver and Install it as administrator.
more details (french) : http://tibank.forumactif.com/problemes-divers-f9/windows-7-64bits-et-nspire-t4830.htm
If this is not the problem you have, then I'm not sure what is it. x.x
Well, I think his probelm was mine when I tried to install Ndless (on Win7).
Ndless need to install OS 1.1 in every case, either the OS 1.1 is installed or not. If you have the *.tnc or *.tno 1.1 OS file, you need to put it in [Ndless_dir]/userfiles directory (create if not any), and rename this file to "tinspire_1.1.tno" (*.tnc also, rename it to *.tno).
Then, Ndless will get this file instead of trying download it from TI-bank. It will install OS 1.1 one more time.
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Oh right, 2 different directories might work x.x. For the same one it fails, though (I tried and got errors).
1.3 is not compatible with 7 64 bits. There's that workaround about drivers, but just that shouldn't even be supposed to happen at all if it was really compatible. Not to mention under windows 7, Computer Link Software 1.3 freezes when exiting (have to shut it down using CTRL+ALT+DEL)
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1.3 is not compatible with 7 64 bits. There's that workaround about drivers, but just that shouldn't even be supposed to happen at all if it was really compatible. Not to mention under windows 7, Computer Link Software 1.3 freezes when exiting (have to shut it down using CTRL+ALT+DEL)
Thus, 1.4 is not compatible Win7 also. I have to Ctrl+Alt+Del all the time even if I re-install it with the 1.3 uninstalled...
I can trust that 1.4 is designed for Win7, but not that 1.3 doesn't work better than 1.4 :p
(It depends of a lot a parameters...)
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Really? Strange, I never had this happen. But what I meant is that 1.4 was designed to be compatible with Win7, while 1.3 wasn't. That's all I'm saying. Don't imply 1.3 was made to be compatible with Windows 7. I don't even know if Windows 7 was even out when 1.3 came out anyway.
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Really? Strange, I never had this happen.
the entire mistery of Windows :p
That why I said that it depend of a lot of parameters...
But what I meant is that 1.4 was designed to be compatible with Win7, while 1.3 wasn't. That's all I'm saying. Don't imply 1.3 was made to be compatible with Windows 7. I don't even know if Windows 7 was even out when 1.3 came out anyway.
Ok, we are on the same way now.
- 1.3 works with Win7 64 bits, and is needed to isntall Ndless v1.0.
- 1.4 is needed to install OS 2.0
- We can install 1.4 in an other directory, both version will works.
- On the other hand, 1.3 is not designed for Win7 whereas 1.4 is.
- For my personal use, I saw that 1.4 is full of bugs with Win7 64 bits (connection lost, freeze...)
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- 1.4 is needed to install OS 2.0
I don't think this is true. I have 1.3 and I have successfully sent OS 2.0 several times to several different Nspires (all non CAS)
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- 1.4 is needed to install OS 2.0
I don't think this is true. I have 1.3 and I have successfully sent OS 2.0 several times to several different Nspires (all non CAS)
Yeah, I've sent 2.0 with Linking software 1.3 as well
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- 1.4 is needed to install OS 2.0
I don't think this is true. I have 1.3 and I have successfully sent OS 2.0 several times to several different Nspires (all non CAS)
Ok, if you say so, I made a mistake.
Thus, for me, 1.4 is useless ?
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seems like so D:
Silly Windows x.x (and maybe TI too, for breaking Ndless compatibility with 1.4 x.x)
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I found out the problem. I had put the userfiles folder in the 2nd ndless directory not the parent directory.
It installed and works fine. I had time to load 2 games on before school which was lucky since Indonesian was boring
Thanks for the help guys!
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Ooooh ok I see x.x. That can happen sometimes, especially when unzipping files "in the directory of the same name as the file" instead of "here". We end up with several directory levels x.x
Glad it works now! And if you get problems with your calc not turning ON, you need to remove a battery then put it back up, then turn it ON again everytime like this. It's an issue with OS 1.1 not being 100% compatible with TI-Nspire calculators manufactured after a certain date in 2008 or later.
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OK. I haven't had any trouble turning it on except that I need to hit the on button twice to get it to start.
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OK. I haven't had any trouble turning it on except that I need to hit the on button twice to get it to start.
You can just wait, pressing twice ON is not necessary. Ndless "loads" (not exactly but it is this mind) when you press ON, and it take a few time.
:)
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glad you had no troubles turning it on
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i have a CAS version and i'm having a bit of trouble installing the ndless at the moment. I can't seem to get the right file to go into the 'userfiles' folder. I can get the version for the non cas and it works. but the cas version renamed didn't work.. help?
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i have a CAS version and i'm having a bit of trouble installing the ndless at the moment. I can't seem to get the right file to go into the 'userfiles' folder. I can get the version for the non cas and it works. but the cas version renamed didn't work.. help?
Yes, you have to rename the CAS OS file to "tinspire_1.1.tno"
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/13/60/39/93/captur20.png)
tip : You have to display the files extensions in Windows. On Vista/Win7, press [Alt] to display the menu bar, then go to option > tools > Display > and unckeck the line "Hide automatically extensions that Windows know" something like that
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ok so i did that... now i have the right OS on it... so then i played the demo program it installed and it froze on me... so i took out the batteries... and now it wont turn back on.. what did i do wrong?..
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You are probably suffering from some sort of power management bug.
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Mhmm this is strange x.x, normally it shouldn't crash. I think the only solution would be to try reinstalling the OS + Ndless. (which may require formatting of the calc)
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Hi ive got a ti nspire cas and ive been searching all round the site and on google for help with ndless installation. im fairly sure ive been doing everything right, I have Computer link 1.3, OS 1.1.9170, java, but its still not working, I have a folder called Ndless and inside I have a folder called userfiles. Inside userfiles ive named the OS "tinspire_1.1.tno. good so far? I go back to the Ndless folder and click on the install ndless file(Ive plugged in the calculator and the computer is recognising it) I click continue when the box comes up and this is what it says from here:
"Setting up USB connectivity...
Connecting to device..."
Then a box comes up saying "Ndless needs to downgrade the OS to version 1.1.
Continue?" I click yes, but Ive already got the "tinspire_1.1.tno" file in userfiles.
"Downloading OS version 1.1..."
"Ndless can't download the file. You may try to copy itmanually to Ndless directory as 'userfiles\tinspire_1.1.tno' and retry the installation.
ERROR (ProtocolException): Server redirected too many times (20)
Installation aborted."
What am I doing wrong, im new to this and I can't figure out what.
I know there might be other threads about this that could help, but none have so far. ??? ???
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You need to get the .tnc OS, because you have a CAS calculator.
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Hi and welcome here!
The problem you have is that the copy of OS 1.1 that Ndless tries to download from was deleted. It was located on TI-BANK website (french), which received a cease and desist letter from Texas Instruments (sent by lawyers) to ask them to remove that copyrighted OS from their site. Since then, no calculator site has been redistributing any copy of the OS to avoid any legal issues. Now you need to find a copy of the OS somewhere on Google or Piratebay(or any other p2p) and hope you find something. Certain people migth also have copies hidden somewhere. Sadly we cannot send any, though.
EDIT: oh wait he got the CAS.
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Yea i think Ive got the OS its downloaded and call "tinspire_1.1.9170" its the CAS version, I tryed putting it in the userfiles folder called "tinspire_1.1.tno" but Ndless still thinks that its not there. Is there something wrong with the naming or the location of the folder? ( I tryed naming it "tinspire_1.1.tnc" aswell but that doesnt work either )
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the folder needs to be called userfiles
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yea its called that and it doesnt work, so I dunno ill look for a tutorial or wait for a newer version ndless, thanx for your help
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mhmm weird x.x
If you don't mind waiting a day or two, hopefully Bwang or any of the french guy will most likely show up here then and be able to answer your question easier.
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To start, make sure that your Nspire isn't the one with a touchpad. If it has one, then you can't downgrade it below 2.0.
If you have the clickwheel version, then try the following things:
-try installing the 1.1 OS with the Computer Link program, and only after that run Ndless
-if Ndless still doesn't work after that, and you happen to have an 84+ nearby, you can put Ndless on your Nspire using the 84+. I'll post a link to the program if the first method doesn't work
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Well ive got OS 1.1.9170 on it, so i guess its not a touch pad, it must be the click wheel version.
So yea i istalled 1.1 OS with computer link 1.3, and when I run Ndless it still doesnt work, and I dont have an 84+ I just got the Nspire for school.
Would anyone be able to make a tutorial vid, don't worry if its too much effort.
Um, its says in the read me off Ndless to change the OS name to tinspire_1.1.tno, but isnt that that normal Nspire OS, I thought it should be tinspire_1.1.tnc, because ive got CAS.
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Would anyone be able to make a tutorial vid, don't worry if its too much effort.
I'll do one after the june 24th due to final step exams
Um, its says in the read me off Ndless to change the OS name to tinspire_1.1.tno, but isnt that that normal Nspire OS, I thought it should be tinspire_1.1.tnc, because ive got CAS.
Even if it is a CAS or a NON CAS Nspire, the file have to be called "tinspire_1.1.tno" BUT the file name doesn't influe on the file content.
If it is a CAS, the file have to be the original 1.1 *.tnc file renamed to "tinspire_1.1.tno" AND BE CAREFUL WITH WINDOWS HIDDEN EXTENSIONS
http://ourl.ca/4722/90750
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yea i showed the file extensions, so it should be tinspire_1.1.tno, even with a CAS?
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Hey you guys are legends thanx, I just had to show the hidden files extensions and it worked from there thanx again. =]
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Glad it works ^^
And I did not even know we had to rename CAS OSes to tno as well. Thanks for telling us Levak :)
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Okey,
I've seen that many TI-nSpire CAS users had got troubles with using the Ndless installer.
Thus, I get the time to record myself while installing and uninstalling Ndless on a TI-nSpire CAS.
The only problem is that I'm a french speaker, and I don't have instinctive english for the moment (I have to talk many hours for being bilingual...)
Here is the video (available in HD only, think to active it):
http://www.vimeo.com/12957579
If any one have the time to make subtitles in english, it could be really great. I could make them, but a little help can't be refused :p
If there is any voluntaries, please tell me :)
EDIT : Video now online
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Sounds cool ^^
Idk if I'll be able to add subs since I am taking some sort of semi-break (see news article on front page), but hopefully maybe someone else who understand both english and french could do it.
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Hi, I'm a new member here, and have just succesfully installed ndless on my TI-Nspire (Not as easy as I thought it'd be! I have Win 7 64bit, and had trouble finding OS 1.1). I have a small problem though, as I have a newer TI-Nspire, so whenever I turn it off, I must remove the batteries in order for it to turn on again. I know that this is a known problem, but I have heard that there is a utility available which can help with this issue. Is this true, and if so, where can I find it? I'd appreciate any help that anyone can give me. Thanks in advance.
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Hi and welcome here. Here is the utility you need :)
http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=486
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Thank you so much, it works perfectly! My friends need this as well, as my whole year group at my school have just bought the TI-Nspire calculator for our GCSEs.
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No problem. :)
Hopefully a version of Ndless will eventually be available for OS 1.7 and 2.0. I hope those versions don't have the screen issue.
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Hopefully a version of Ndless will eventually be available for OS 1.7 and 2.0. I hope those versions don't have the screen issue.
I am not sure if 2.0 is planned yet, but 1.7 should, hopefully come soon. Also, there is definately no power management bug in OS 1.7. It is great to be able to press on and then go right to Mario! :D
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Yeah. Personally I am often in 84+ mode and I had no access to Calc84 Reset program. It was a nightmare and I did not want to eventually break the keypad connectors. I think someone on Cemetech had that happen after swapping keypads so often.