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Calc better than Prizm possible
« on: October 24, 2012, 10:15:01 pm »
I want a custom calculator that has all the features (including a GPU, ARM7 processor, possibly 3D display (like HTC Evo 3D), WiFi (yes, SATs don't restrict Wifi!), SD card slot, camera, Android or Ubuntu compatible ... maybe OCR problem-solving?) possible except these by default (requirements for SAT, I'm surprised how easy it is to have an acceptable calculator :evillaugh: :thumbsup:):

Calculators with QWERTY (typewriter-like) keypads (just switch the W and the Q to make it a WQERTY keyboard to make it easy to type but allowed at the same time)
Calculators that contain electronic dictionaries (doesn't mean disable potential for dictionary, user's responsibility)
Calculators with paper tape or printers (Allow network printing could work though)
Calculators that "talk" or make noise (headphone jack ok/slot to put internal speaker in)
Calculators that require an electrical outlet (Meaning it needs battery lasting for at least 48 hrs strait with display and simple math, underclock when not using android OS)
Cell phone calculators (as long as it's not a cell phone, it's fine)
Pocket organizers or personal digital assistants (As long as it's labeled as a calculator, it's ok)
Hand-held minicomputers, PowerBooks, or laptop computers (As long as it's labeled as a calculator, it's ok)
Electronic writing pads or pen-input and stylus-driven devices (the Sharp 9600-EL can be used without the stylus) (finger touchscreen is ok)

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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2012, 10:19:45 pm »
There's been attempts at this in the past. UberGraphX as an example.

However, many fail to see the light of day due to lack of time, loss of interest, or in UberGraphX's case, monetary/marketing issues.

Wishing for an epic calculator is fine, but starting a topic just saying "I want this" is not really going to get anyone devoted to starting a project.

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Late last night, Quebec was invaded by a group calling themselves, "Omnimaga". Not much is known about these mysterious people except that they all carried calculators of some kind and they all seemed to converge on one house in particular. Experts estimate that the combined power of their fabled calculators is greater than all the worlds super computers put together. The group seems to be holding out in the home of a certain DJ_O, who the Omnimagians claim to be their founder. Such power has put the world at a standstill with everyone waiting to see what the Omnimagians will do...

Wait... This just in, the Omnimagians have sent the UN a list of demands that must be met or else the world will be "submitted to the wrath of Netham45's Lobster Army". Such demands include >9001 crates of peanuts, sacrificial blue lobsters, and a wide assortment of cherry flavored items. With such computing power stored in the hands of such people, we can only hope these demands are met.

In the wake of these events, we can only ask, Why? Why do these people make these demands, what caused them to gather, and what are their future plans...

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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2012, 10:23:10 pm »
So how can I encourage such a project, or will I have to build it myself?
It might be fun to create, maybe I'll give it a shot!
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2012, 10:27:36 pm »
Yeah sadly it seems that those projects are too ambitious for anyone to venture into it long term. hence why they die. Also there are often concerns about competing head on with the monopoly that is TI and getting the calc accepted in schools (Some people tried to promote the PRIZM in their classes in vain).

If you try such project, good luck. It requires good planning and stuff.

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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2012, 10:28:12 pm »
You would have to probably start the project yourself, and make something to show. Perhaps a proof-of-concept of some sorts. Generally if you can convince people that your project isn't going to die or fail, people will become interested and some will help.

But ultimately, you would have to start building it yourself and bring in other people who could help.

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Wait... This just in, the Omnimagians have sent the UN a list of demands that must be met or else the world will be "submitted to the wrath of Netham45's Lobster Army". Such demands include >9001 crates of peanuts, sacrificial blue lobsters, and a wide assortment of cherry flavored items. With such computing power stored in the hands of such people, we can only hope these demands are met.

In the wake of these events, we can only ask, Why? Why do these people make these demands, what caused them to gather, and what are their future plans...

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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2012, 10:31:34 pm »
The big problem is how do I get the parts to create such a project (it can't just be a case on top of a cell phone or it'll defeat the purpose, I want a completely DIY calculator)

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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2012, 10:32:38 pm »
Actually it's generally better that the project doesn't get officially announced until it's close to completion or at the very least almost fully functional. Otherwise it creates a lot of false hope and hype if it fails. Asking for advice and help is a good idea, though.

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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2012, 10:36:33 pm »
I am announcing it because I need advice to start this project.

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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2012, 10:39:46 pm »
If you studied in electronics and/or engineering, it will help a lot. You have to decide which parts to get (display, keyboard, peripherals, etc.), of course no QWERTY so it's allowed at the SAT (they will accept it if you're switching 2 letters? You're better ordering them alphabetically to maximise th chances.), then how to assemble them correctly, then how to assemble a lot of them. Good luck :P

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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2012, 10:44:16 pm »
Well, I don't think I'll go into mass production unless there is enough demand that I can't build them all by hand. Unfortunately, my school doesn't offer that so I'll have to do outside research, I think it could work out though.
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2012, 10:48:47 pm »
If you want a calculator for the SAT you really don't need all of that.  The math portion of the test is pretty easy and can be done with a scientific calculator if you wanted.  If you want a calculator with a CAS then get the Nspire CX CAS or the TI-89 Titanium.  TI dominates the calculator market and it will be hard to get teachers to accept a new calculator since they are so hooked on to their TI-84's.

It would be nice to have something like this but it's hard for old teachers to accept new tech.  :-\

There are also other keyboard layouts other than QWERTY that you can use instead of just switching two letters if you want.
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2012, 10:51:21 pm »
My teachers allow a calc as long as it works on SATs so teachers accepting it won't be much of a problem. Also, I want to play Dead Trigger in my spare time, I'm in 10th grade leaving plenty of time to develop to play during classes. I just need some sort of reference on how to build a custom android device and I can take it from there.
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2012, 10:53:25 pm »
yeah but creating such a calc just so you can have some advantage on SAT? SAT maths are easier than pre-calc final exam. The idea might be great, but I think the motive is wrong.
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2012, 10:55:18 pm »
It could also help with that pre-calc exam you're talking about to get an advantage on that as well.
It would also work well on researching stuff on the internet in classes I'm not allowed to use a phone in, it could even help in World Geo, or use a full Office Suite in English, or do physics simulations in Bio, run special calculators for Math like web slope and y int calcs.
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2012, 10:58:20 pm »
Tests really aren't about getting an advantage, they're more for showing what you know and can produce on your own. Actually, one could argue that if you possess the knowhow to create such a calculator, you really wouldn't need it for those tests.

(Also, the tests are easy) :P

You know, I never took my SAT's :'(

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Wait... This just in, the Omnimagians have sent the UN a list of demands that must be met or else the world will be "submitted to the wrath of Netham45's Lobster Army". Such demands include >9001 crates of peanuts, sacrificial blue lobsters, and a wide assortment of cherry flavored items. With such computing power stored in the hands of such people, we can only hope these demands are met.

In the wake of these events, we can only ask, Why? Why do these people make these demands, what caused them to gather, and what are their future plans...