Author Topic: Forced and misleading Nspire OS upgrades rumors  (Read 8827 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline linuxgeek96

  • LV3 Member (Next: 100)
  • ***
  • Posts: 99
  • Rating: +4/-0
  • ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
    • View Profile
    • Personal Site
Re: Forced and misleading Nspire OS upgrades rumors
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2012, 06:19:15 pm »
maybe you could translate.google.com proxy your visits ;-) or use the IP (198.47.28.39)
« Last Edit: April 09, 2012, 06:20:56 pm by linuxgeek96 »

Offline thepenguin77

  • z80 Assembly Master
  • LV10 31337 u53r (Next: 2000)
  • **********
  • Posts: 1594
  • Rating: +823/-5
  • The game in my avatar is bit.ly/p0zPWu
    • View Profile
Re: Forced and misleading Nspire OS upgrades rumors
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2012, 08:23:40 pm »
On Windows:
1) Open up an elevated command prompt - that is, Start Menu > All Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt, right click and hit "Run as Administrator..." Do any password typing/clicking as needed to gain elevated access.
2) Type in cd %SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc
3) Type in notepad hosts
4) Place the following line in: 127.0.0.1 education.ti.com
5) SAVE.
6) Log in or log out, OR reboot. This should let all the processes reread that config. Usually, this isn't necessary - especially if the TI-Nspire Student Software isn't running. If it is, just close it completely and re-open. If you are paranoid, do a reboot.
7) That's it! You're safe! :D

Yes, that works, but for people who are scared of the command prompt, here's another (but equivalent) way.

1) Run notepad as administrator
2) Open C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts with the notepad you opened (be sure to specify "All files (*.*)")
3) Add the following line to the end of the list 127.0.0.1 education.ti.com
4) SAVE.
5) Log in or log out, OR reboot. This should let all the processes reread that config. Usually, this isn't necessary - especially if the TI-Nspire Student Software isn't running. If it is, just close it completely and re-open. If you are paranoid, do a reboot.
6) That's it! You're safe! :D
zStart v1.3.013 9-20-2013 
All of my utilities
TI-Connect Help
You can build a statue out of either 1'x1' blocks or 12'x12' blocks. The 1'x1' blocks will take a lot longer, but the final product is worth it.
       -Runer112

Offline DJ Omnimaga

  • Clacualters are teh gr33t
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV15 Omnimagician (Next: --)
  • *
  • Posts: 55942
  • Rating: +3154/-232
  • CodeWalrus founder & retired Omnimaga founder
    • View Profile
    • Dream of Omnimaga Music
Re: Forced and misleading Nspire OS upgrades rumors
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2012, 09:16:57 pm »
Alberthrocks, isn't that possible via modifying a file by navigating into Windows system files too? I remember going there to modify an actual hosts file.
Now active at https://discord.gg/cuZcfcF (CodeWalrus server)

Offline Deep Toaster

  • So much to do, so much time, so little motivation
  • Administrator
  • LV13 Extreme Addict (Next: 9001)
  • *************
  • Posts: 8217
  • Rating: +758/-15
    • View Profile
    • ClrHome
Re: Forced and misleading Nspire OS upgrades rumors
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2012, 09:33:23 pm »
Alberthrocks, isn't that possible via modifying a file by navigating into Windows system files too? I remember going there to modify an actual hosts file.
Exactly how thepenguin suggested :) It's a really useful file to know.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2012, 09:33:33 pm by Deep Thought »




Offline DJ Omnimaga

  • Clacualters are teh gr33t
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV15 Omnimagician (Next: --)
  • *
  • Posts: 55942
  • Rating: +3154/-232
  • CodeWalrus founder & retired Omnimaga founder
    • View Profile
    • Dream of Omnimaga Music
Re: Forced and misleading Nspire OS upgrades rumors
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2012, 09:48:52 pm »
Oh wait I didn't see his post. My bad. Thanks to both :D

Eventually I guess a quick tutorial or a batch file quickly letting people do that change or even revert it would be a good idea for other people who are not tech-savy. :)
Now active at https://discord.gg/cuZcfcF (CodeWalrus server)

Offline Jonius7

  • python! Lua!
  • LV10 31337 u53r (Next: 2000)
  • **********
  • Posts: 1918
  • Rating: +82/-18
  • Still bringing new dimensions to the TI-nspire...
    • View Profile
    • TI Stadium
Re: Forced and misleading Nspire OS upgrades rumors
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2012, 08:02:40 am »
For the last year or so, I have heard rumors and remarks about how the TI-Nspire Computer Link Software and the TI-Nspire Student Software, at certain points in time, have upgraded user's TI-Nspires without their permission.

I am wondering if this is really a forced upgrade, for example, when launching the software and connecting your calculator, a forced upgrade that was present at any point or another in previous software versions or if it might have been just a misleading software alert box tricking people into upgrading?

To those who had something like that happening, could you state if such upgrade just launched automatically or if it was due to a mistake from your part? If it was a mistake, could you state what made you upgrade, such as what message/alert box did you get? If it's a common mistake due to a misleading software warning, then maybe there could be some sort of sticky topic warning users about it?

Some people may not want to upgrade to OS 3.2 immediately (and they have every right to decide what gets installed on their calc or not), so it might be good to warn them if any of the forced upgrade or misleading upgrade warning rumors reveals to be true.

I would also like to know myself, because I use Nspire Student Software a lot with my CX and I would hate if it was upgraded without my consent. I know, for example, that in the version of Computer Link that I had, there were two boxes to uncheck to ensure that your calc doesn't get upgraded automatically, and those boxes sometimes would get checked again on next launch, even though you unchecked them before.


Hmm what the Computer Link software does do is that it pops up with a dialogue box telling you that a new version of the OS is available would you like to download and install it. But nothing as covert as just installing the OS without the prompt I think.
Programmed some CASIO Basic in the past
DJ Omnimaga Music Discographist ;)
DJ Omnimaga Discography
My Own Music!
My Released Projects (Updated 2015/05/08)
TI-nspire BASIC
TI-nspire Hold 'em
Health Bar
Scissors Paper Rock
TI-nspire Lua
Numstrat
TI-nspire Hold 'em Lua
Transport Chooser
Secret Project (at v0.08.2 - 2015/05/08)
Spoiler For Extra To-Be-Sorted Clutter:

Spoiler For Relegated Projects:
TI-nspire BASIC
Battle of 16s (stalled) | sTIck RPG (stalled) | Monopoly (stalled) | Cosmic Legions (stalled)
Axe Parser
Doodle God (stalled while I go and learn some Axe)

Offline calc84maniac

  • eZ80 Guru
  • Coder Of Tomorrow
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2912
  • Rating: +471/-17
    • View Profile
    • TI-Boy CE
Re: Forced and misleading Nspire OS upgrades rumors
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2012, 11:40:21 pm »
For the last year or so, I have heard rumors and remarks about how the TI-Nspire Computer Link Software and the TI-Nspire Student Software, at certain points in time, have upgraded user's TI-Nspires without their permission.

I am wondering if this is really a forced upgrade, for example, when launching the software and connecting your calculator, a forced upgrade that was present at any point or another in previous software versions or if it might have been just a misleading software alert box tricking people into upgrading?

To those who had something like that happening, could you state if such upgrade just launched automatically or if it was due to a mistake from your part? If it was a mistake, could you state what made you upgrade, such as what message/alert box did you get? If it's a common mistake due to a misleading software warning, then maybe there could be some sort of sticky topic warning users about it?

Some people may not want to upgrade to OS 3.2 immediately (and they have every right to decide what gets installed on their calc or not), so it might be good to warn them if any of the forced upgrade or misleading upgrade warning rumors reveals to be true.

I would also like to know myself, because I use Nspire Student Software a lot with my CX and I would hate if it was upgraded without my consent. I know, for example, that in the version of Computer Link that I had, there were two boxes to uncheck to ensure that your calc doesn't get upgraded automatically, and those boxes sometimes would get checked again on next launch, even though you unchecked them before.


Hmm what the Computer Link software does do is that it pops up with a dialogue box telling you that a new version of the OS is available would you like to download and install it. But nothing as covert as just installing the OS without the prompt I think.

But TI has never put up an OS with the Force Update field set to "Yes", so we don't know yet what happens in that case.
"Most people ask, 'What does a thing do?' Hackers ask, 'What can I make it do?'" - Pablos Holman

Offline Yeong

  • Not a bridge
  • LV12 Extreme Poster (Next: 5000)
  • ************
  • Posts: 3739
  • Rating: +278/-12
  • Survivor of Apocalypse
    • View Profile
Re: Forced and misleading Nspire OS upgrades rumors
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2012, 01:57:21 am »
since OS release is soon, it should go to News to notify many people about the method.
Sig wipe!

Offline Jonius7

  • python! Lua!
  • LV10 31337 u53r (Next: 2000)
  • **********
  • Posts: 1918
  • Rating: +82/-18
  • Still bringing new dimensions to the TI-nspire...
    • View Profile
    • TI Stadium
Re: Forced and misleading Nspire OS upgrades rumors
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2012, 10:49:57 am »
So as of yet there hasn't been really anyone who has been 'forced' into upgrading their OSes? Maybe just rumours? I really hope that doesn't change with OS 3.2 :O
Programmed some CASIO Basic in the past
DJ Omnimaga Music Discographist ;)
DJ Omnimaga Discography
My Own Music!
My Released Projects (Updated 2015/05/08)
TI-nspire BASIC
TI-nspire Hold 'em
Health Bar
Scissors Paper Rock
TI-nspire Lua
Numstrat
TI-nspire Hold 'em Lua
Transport Chooser
Secret Project (at v0.08.2 - 2015/05/08)
Spoiler For Extra To-Be-Sorted Clutter:

Spoiler For Relegated Projects:
TI-nspire BASIC
Battle of 16s (stalled) | sTIck RPG (stalled) | Monopoly (stalled) | Cosmic Legions (stalled)
Axe Parser
Doodle God (stalled while I go and learn some Axe)