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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #165 on: October 25, 2010, 12:13:45 am »
Hmm interesting. I wonder if eventually Ndless will be made to work on all OSes...
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #166 on: October 31, 2010, 11:24:15 am »
Quote from: DJ Omnomnimaga on September 25, 2010, 04:59:58 pm
Apparently, OS 1.7 itself just won't even work on the CAS Touchpad Nspire, while 1.1 and 1.6 do.

OSes 1.6/1.7 won't boot on a TI-Nspire CAS TouchPad with any of the 4 available keypads (84+, ClickPad, basic TouchPad, CAS TouchPad). You either get continuous reboots, either a "wrong keypad" dialog box when the progress bar reaches 100%.

Here's a photo of that dialog box:

The photo comes from that french news, which might have other usefull infrmations for you:
http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=877

OSes 1.1-1.4 are booting on a TI-Nspire CAS TouchPad with the original keypad without any problem.
You can't boot with a ClickPad keypad (continuous reboots), but you can swap the keypad while the calculator is on. The calculator won't turn off or reboot as those OSes don't check for the keypad being removed.


As Ndless 1.7 will never work on a TI-Nspire CAS TouchPad with OS 1.7/1.6, it has been modded in order to be installable on OS 1.4.
http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=9539

According to Levak's tests, with OS 1.4, we're getting exactly the same USB- and theta-bugs as with OS 1.7.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #167 on: October 31, 2010, 11:29:06 pm »
It's so weird that this happens. X.x. An older OS works, but not a newer one. What's next, TI? OS 2.1 won't work on newer Nspires that will have 2.2 or 3.0? O.o

Oh well, hopefully those issues will be solved eventually by a Ndless 2.0 release. I guess it will depend of how busy are the developers and if they can figure out bugs.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #168 on: November 01, 2010, 03:13:17 pm »
Wait a minute- how do you get 1.1 on a touchpad??? I currently have a (borrowed) clickpad if I need it in the process.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #169 on: November 01, 2010, 03:23:00 pm »
Quote from: dman2073 on November 01, 2010, 03:13:17 pm
Wait a minute- how do you get 1.1 on a touchpad??? I currently have a (borrowed) clickpad if I need it in the process.

I think CAS can do it :S
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #170 on: November 01, 2010, 03:24:37 pm »
ScoutDavid- i'm confused is it possible to do it on a regular touchpad?
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #171 on: November 01, 2010, 03:25:52 pm »
Quote from: dman2073 on November 01, 2010, 03:24:37 pm
ScoutDavid- i'm confused is it possible to do it on a regular touchpad?

No, there is no OS 1.1 for the touchpad, it never existed.

HOWEVER, with the CAS I think you can do it but not sure.

IF you have a Clickpad you can switch them while Ndless is active :)
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #172 on: November 01, 2010, 03:26:16 pm »
Quote from: dman2073 on November 01, 2010, 03:13:17 pm
Wait a minute- how do you get 1.1 on a touchpad??? I currently have a (borrowed) clickpad if I need it in the process.

On a basic TouchPad:
1) put a ClickPad keypad
2) install OS 2.1
3) send and launch Nleash
4) install OS 1.1

On a CAS TouchPad:
1) install OS 2.1
2) send and launch Nleash
3) install OS 1.1
4) boot OS 1.1 with the TouchPad keypad
5) while the calculator is on, hot-swap the TouchPad keypad with a ClickPad keypad
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #173 on: November 01, 2010, 03:26:17 pm »
nope, you need a clickpad :)
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #174 on: November 01, 2010, 03:30:07 pm »
Quote from: critor on November 01, 2010, 03:26:16 pm
Quote from: dman2073 on November 01, 2010, 03:13:17 pm
Wait a minute- how do you get 1.1 on a touchpad??? I currently have a (borrowed) clickpad if I need it in the process.

On a basic TouchPad:
1) put a ClickPad keypad
2) install OS 2.1
3) send and launch Nleash
4) install OS 1.1

On a CAS TouchPad:
1) install OS 2.1
2) send and launch Nleash
3) install OS 1.1
4) boot OS 1.1 with the TouchPad keypad
5) while the calculator is on, hot-swap the TouchPad keypad with a ClickPad keypad

Great explanation, congratz!
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #175 on: November 01, 2010, 03:33:03 pm »
Quote from: ScoutDavid on November 01, 2010, 03:30:07 pm
Quote from: critor on November 01, 2010, 03:26:16 pm
Quote from: dman2073 on November 01, 2010, 03:13:17 pm
Wait a minute- how do you get 1.1 on a touchpad??? I currently have a (borrowed) clickpad if I need it in the process.

On a basic TouchPad:
1) put a ClickPad keypad
2) install OS 2.1
3) send and launch Nleash
4) install OS 1.1

On a CAS TouchPad:
1) install OS 2.1
2) send and launch Nleash
3) install OS 1.1
4) boot OS 1.1 with the TouchPad keypad
5) while the calculator is on, hot-swap the TouchPad keypad with a ClickPad keypad

Great explanation, congratz!
I followed the instructions exactly but I get an endless reboot.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #176 on: November 01, 2010, 03:34:09 pm »
Quote from: ScoutDavid on November 01, 2010, 03:25:52 pm
Quote from: dman2073 on November 01, 2010, 03:24:37 pm
ScoutDavid- i'm confused is it possible to do it on a regular touchpad?

No, there is no OS 1.1 for the touchpad, it never existed.

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OS 1.1 does exist...

The only problem is that OSes 2.x which are preinstalled on all TouchPad Nspire install a downgrade protection against all OSes older than 2.0.0.

You just need Nleash to destroy that protection.
It works on both basic and CAS TouchPad Nspire.

Moreover, it's easier to get a usable OS 1.1 on a basic TouchPad than on a CAS TouchPad, as explained above:
http://ourl.ca/7106/135366
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #177 on: November 01, 2010, 03:37:50 pm »
Also on the CAS, you need to push on the clickpad keypad to keep the connection alive. There's a news on TI-BANK about it but I cannot find it there, same on the forums (did it get deleted or something?). It's a bit akward, but it's the only way to do it, now.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #178 on: November 01, 2010, 03:38:16 pm »
Quote from: dman2073 on November 01, 2010, 03:33:03 pm
Quote from: ScoutDavid on November 01, 2010, 03:30:07 pm
Quote from: critor on November 01, 2010, 03:26:16 pm
Quote from: dman2073 on November 01, 2010, 03:13:17 pm
Wait a minute- how do you get 1.1 on a touchpad??? I currently have a (borrowed) clickpad if I need it in the process.

On a basic TouchPad:
1) put a ClickPad keypad
2) install OS 2.1
3) send and launch Nleash
4) install OS 1.1

On a CAS TouchPad:
1) install OS 2.1
2) send and launch Nleash
3) install OS 1.1
4) boot OS 1.1 with the TouchPad keypad
5) while the calculator is on, hot-swap the TouchPad keypad with a ClickPad keypad

Great explanation, congratz!
I followed the instructions exactly but I get an endless reboot.


Have you been able to install OS 1.1?

If the endless reboot happened before that, it means that Nleash didn't work well.
Just use the maintenance menu to remove the OS, and try again.

If the endless reboot happened after installing OS 1.1, the problem comes from the keypad.
Which model are you using: basic or CAS TouchPad ?
With which keypad: ClickPad or TouchPad ?
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #179 on: November 01, 2010, 03:40:54 pm »
Quote from: critor on November 01, 2010, 03:38:16 pm
Quote from: dman2073 on November 01, 2010, 03:33:03 pm
Quote from: ScoutDavid on November 01, 2010, 03:30:07 pm
Quote from: critor on November 01, 2010, 03:26:16 pm
Quote from: dman2073 on November 01, 2010, 03:13:17 pm
Wait a minute- how do you get 1.1 on a touchpad??? I currently have a (borrowed) clickpad if I need it in the process.

On a basic TouchPad:
1) put a ClickPad keypad
2) install OS 2.1
3) send and launch Nleash
4) install OS 1.1

On a CAS TouchPad:
1) install OS 2.1
2) send and launch Nleash
3) install OS 1.1
4) boot OS 1.1 with the TouchPad keypad
5) while the calculator is on, hot-swap the TouchPad keypad with a ClickPad keypad

Great explanation, congratz!
I followed the instructions exactly but I get an endless reboot.


Have you been able to install OS 1.1?

If the endless reboot happened before that, it means that Nleash didn't work well.
Just use the maintenance menu to remove the OS, and try again.

If the endless reboot happened after installing OS 1.1, the problem comes from the keypad.
Which model are you using: basic or CAS TouchPad ?
With which keypad: ClickPad or TouchPad ?
I'm using a basic touchpad.  I borrowed a clickpad so I could do this
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