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Re: Let's hack Nspire OS 2.1!
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2010, 11:04:57 am »
@fb39ca4: Really? Is there a link you could provide? It *might* be 1.x though, but I'll check.
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Re: Let's hack Nspire OS 2.1!
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2010, 11:09:33 am »
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Re: Let's hack Nspire OS 2.1!
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2010, 12:23:32 pm »
Quote from: fb39ca4 on July 23, 2010, 11:09:33 am
Here:

http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=archives&ac=voir&id=397

OK, I've tried and unfortunately, it's an older version. :(
It seems that the TI community hasn't found the format yet.

See below screenshot.
Red is the file magic number (I think), which is highlighted by the program.
The rest (blue, green) are highlighted by me.
Blue is the header, green is the compressed data.

2.0test.tns is apcalc's TNS, with OS 2.0.
Binder1.tns is the TNS I produced from the program.

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EDIT: Yikes! Looks like I forgot to censor out the directories... :P Oh well - TI still has no right to run around my public files! ;)
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Re: Let's hack Nspire OS 2.1!
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2010, 12:36:22 pm »
If you think you found the basic algorithm, perhaps you could do a diff of the two?
Just make sure your diff utility supports binary files ;)
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Re: Let's hack Nspire OS 2.1!
« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2010, 04:59:23 pm »
Quote from: alberthrocks on July 20, 2010, 09:37:32 pm
@Lionel Debroux: Well, I must be really behind! :)
I still think it's BSD, or at least has some BSD parts in it. Lookie here:
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=usbd_start_next%3A+error%3D%25d&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=76ee7718c2ec583d

The interesting text is "usbd_start_next: error=%d". The google search above yields plenty of BSD source links. How isn't it BSD? ;)
This was found in the latest stock OS, 2.1. Line 8752 to be exact (after extracting phoenix.raw, and "strings"ing it).

You're right. Looking closer:

"*BSD"'s usbdi (and ehci) interface was introduced in OS 2.0 (apcalc points out that this could be required to support the docking station).
Some parts seem to be deeply adapted though.

This means that:
- TI would be in violation of the BSD license. The license requires that any distribution in binary form reproduce the copyright notice, conditions of distribution and disclaimer. I can't find these requirements.
- Understanding/hooking the USB stack and documenting the USB I/O ports may be easier thanks to this open interface
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Re: Let's hack Nspire OS 2.1!
« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2010, 05:01:33 pm »
Quote from: ExtendeD on October 11, 2010, 04:59:23 pm
- TI would be in violation of the BSD license. The license requires that any distribution in binary form reproduce the copyright notice, conditions of distribution and disclaimer. I can't find these requirements.

so I smell a lawsuit? :o
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Re: Let's hack Nspire OS 2.1!
« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2010, 05:03:35 pm »
Wait, so TI would have used someone else's code without crediting them/asking permission or what? This topic is a bit old so I kinda forgot the context of the latest discussion a bit. Does it means TI could be in trouble?
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Re: Let's hack Nspire OS 2.1!
« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2010, 01:28:07 pm »
Yes. But it would just be a matter of updating their "About" screen that already contains credits for other third-party components.
The second point is the most interesting for us.
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Re: Let's hack Nspire OS 2.1!
« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2010, 06:02:08 pm »
irrelevant to recent discussion:  I had a thought. 

Could we use "TI-Nspire Computer Link" and disassemble it to find the rsa key?
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Re: Let's hack Nspire OS 2.1!
« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2010, 06:12:48 pm »
No, all it does is copy over the files. If it does verify the os, it'll only need the public key.
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Re: Let's hack Nspire OS 2.1!
« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2010, 06:51:08 pm »
The RSA private key is never ever ever used anywhere in the operating system, transfer links, or anything, because then it wouldn't be a private key. ;-)
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Re: Let's hack Nspire OS 2.1!
« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2010, 04:09:37 pm »
ok, i think i understand.
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Re: Let's hack Nspire OS 2.1!
« Reply #57 on: October 13, 2010, 11:25:24 pm »
Quote from: graphmastur on October 12, 2010, 06:51:08 pm
The RSA private key is never ever ever used anywhere in the operating system, transfer links, or anything, because then it wouldn't be a private key. ;-)
Now if only they made it that easy ;D

But again hacking that stuff wouldn't be as fun for some people :P
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