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The first TI-Nspire powered by a Nintendo DS Lite battery pack!
« on: January 05, 2012, 06:03:01 pm »
Hey guys!

If you followed last days (from Monday actually) conversations on #omnimaga or #nspire-lua, you've probably noticed I was attempting to use a Nintendo DS battery pack instead of the AAA batteries (which are getting more expensive these days) and instead of the official battery pack, which is difficult to find in France.

Just before telling you what I did, i'd like to be honest with you: you must not use/host/edit my pics without my permission. As some TI-Planet's pics were stolen and edited, I do not want this to happen to me.

Now, let's start off!

The official battery pack has the following characteristics: 3.7V and 1060mAh, so 3.92Wh. That battery is difficult to find in France (as I said 4 lines above) and really expensive: it's 1/4 of the price of a 2nd-hand TI-Nspire in France!
As some of you may not know, the battery pack can only be used on TI-Nspire TouchPad, which PCB includes a battery pack slot with 4 pins. If you have a Nspire ClickPad or don't even own a TI-Nspire, don't do what I did!!

If you're in that case, you will only have to use those expensive AAA batteries which are used by every manufacturer. These batteries have a life which depends of your use of the calculator. I personally belong to the intensive-users category..

It's when I found an old Nintendo DS Lite battery pack that I wondered if I could make it supply my TI-Nspire.. I didn't want to solder anything, so I just checked the thickness.... which is one of the problems: the NDS battery pack is thicker than the official battery pack. I had to push strongly on the back of the calc to close it more or less correctly...

As I didn't know what the 4 pins were used for, I decided to go on IRC and ask anyone.. Adriweb had a very pertinent answer: 2 +, 2 -.. One + for charging, one + to be used normally, one - to be charging and the last one to be used normally.
He was right! As I was sure that the pins, up to down, were ++--, I only used one wire for each sign, which means I have soldered only 2 wires to my battery pack.....
In order to know if it would be detected successfully by the calc, I prefered to keep the batteries inside and solder the battery pack like that: ++--. I then had a very strange message from the OS: In the "Status" menu, next to the battery pack icon, was blinking a "Warning" triangle. The pins aren't ++--, but --++... The OS detected the battery pack!! After having unsoldered and soldered correctly the battery pack, as well as removing the AAA batteries, it works!!

So here are some pictures of my experiment, with a Proof of Concept video, which is temporary because I need to use a real camera, not my phone ;)












« Last Edit: January 06, 2012, 05:27:13 pm by NeoCrisis »



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Re: The first TI-Nspire powered by a Nintendo DS Lite battery pack!
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 04:10:48 am »
this is really great, ti might not be so happy with it but whatever..
does the calc also display the 'exact' % of the battery? since it's about the same mAh, it could be working correct (if the 100% V was set as parameter in the pcb itself)
and btw, i like your shoes in that movie lol

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Re: The first TI-Nspire powered by a Nintendo DS Lite battery pack!
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 10:11:44 am »
This is quite awesome. I'm glad that you were able to find a cheaper alternative to the official battery pack. =)

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Re: The first TI-Nspire powered by a Nintendo DS Lite battery pack!
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2012, 10:38:10 am »
Thanks guys! I'll test a bit lower battery soon ;)



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Re: The first TI-Nspire powered by a Nintendo DS Lite battery pack!
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 11:36:04 am »
most likely its a 1.00 or 1.25 JST cable connector,


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Re: The first TI-Nspire powered by a Nintendo DS Lite battery pack!
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 10:29:13 pm »
I followed up your great work.
(used motoroi X720 Battery that I doesn't use it any more.
And nspire Touchpad)



First,
Tested it briefly to know whether it works or not.

It worked Perfectly!



Second,
Assembled battery like below

(soldered nothing.)



Battery pack is little bit thicker than official one.
So there's a gap in back panel.


Anyway it was powered on well.
But couldn't check the battery status.


(Of course AAA batteries was removed already)


Maybe should I solder two sets of pins (++ / --) together to solve this problem?


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[Added]

Status problem Fixed




P.S) It seems it doesn't get charged through USB connection
« Last Edit: March 02, 2012, 05:10:29 pm by creeras »

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Re: The first TI-Nspire powered by a Nintendo DS Lite battery pack!
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2012, 03:52:43 pm »
mine doesnt either does yours?

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Re: The first TI-Nspire powered by a Nintendo DS Lite battery pack!
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2012, 03:57:51 pm »
Heya welcome here! Nice that you also got your calc to work with an alternate battery. :) Too bad it doesn't charge via USB, though. Could it be that the battery doesn't support it (or doesn't in this configuration)?

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Re: The first TI-Nspire powered by a Nintendo DS Lite battery pack!
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2012, 02:19:26 am »
Heya welcome here! Nice that you also got your calc to work with an alternate battery. :) Too bad it doesn't charge via USB, though. Could it be that the battery doesn't support it (or doesn't in this configuration)?




I connected RED, BLACK only.
(BLACK connected to 3 and 4 pins together)

For charge via USB, (yellow) or (white) line should be connected... I think

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Re: The first TI-Nspire powered by a Nintendo DS Lite battery pack!
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2012, 10:02:27 am »
Hi creeras, and congratulations for your work ;)

You have to solder the 2 sets of pin to get the status, but you can also go to the DIAGS menu to get all the electrical information :)

For charge via USB, (yellow) or (white) line should be connected....

exactly, but I never tried.....................



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Re: The first TI-Nspire powered by a Nintendo DS Lite battery pack!
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2013, 03:25:13 pm »
I soldered the black and the white cable to the minus of my battery, plus is only connected to red and it shows a flash in the battery and says battery charging. But i havent discharged it enough for the calc to recognize it, tell you again in a few days if it really charges.

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Re: The first TI-Nspire powered by a Nintendo DS Lite battery pack!
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2013, 04:39:15 pm »
Heya and welcome here. I hope things works out well for you with this :)