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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2005, 03:32:00 pm »
ASM - in general, is the fastest and smallest code size.

C - in general, is the next best thing to ASM in terms of speed and size. Depending on how the C compiler is implemented, it can produce large bloated code, or decent code, or somewhere in between. Small C compilers are designed with hardware limited devices in mind, like our calcs. Small C compilers "should" be highly optimized for the platforms they are developed for.

So, I can't tell you how good or bad this new compiler is. You will have to weigh the benefits. C, in general, is easier and faster to code and easier to debug than ASM. But, it is almost guaranteed to be somewhat slower and larger than ASM.

You will have to ask yourself what you are willing to work with. The good thing about C, is that is still a very "used" language today.
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2005, 03:46:00 pm »
Sorry for the double post :?confused.gif

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k, it saids that i need to:
- add C:\tisdcc to PATH
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2005, 10:30:00 am »
thx ranman, i have the path set now, but when i run it, it still saids i need to set enviornmental variable for TISDCC dir

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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2005, 04:36:00 pm »
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thx ranman, i have the path set now, but when i run it, it still saids i need to set enviornmental variable for TISDCC dir

Try this Dragon_Lance,

Start -> Control Panel -> System

- Click on the Advanced tab
- Click on Environment variables
- Click on New, the following window will come up
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- Type in the Variable Name - TISDCC_DIR
- Type in the Variable Value - c:\tisdcc
- Click Ok
- Click on New
- Type in the Variable Name - TISDCC_CC
- Type in the Variable Value - cl  (for Microsoft C Compiler)
- or Type in the Variable Value - gcc  (for GNU C Compiler)
- Click Ok, Ok, Ok


Note: the variable value is the path, this can be any directory where tisdcc is installed. This readme file is a little confusing.

Hope this helps! :)smile.gif
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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2005, 02:20:00 pm »
thx so much, now its working perfectly,yay :Dbiggrin.gif

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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2005, 03:29:00 am »
C runs just as fast as ASM until the ASM is super-optimized, in which case, the difference is minute. The people on MaxCoderz obviously have not programmed in it and compared it to an ASM program that does the same thing.

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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2005, 02:51:00 pm »
yeah, I assume they want to compare with a C fps, and a ASM fps game with grayscale polygon 3D graphics :S
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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2005, 05:34:00 am »
@Dragon  Lance: I home you make some awesome games in C...  Maybe you could make like tutorial programs for n00bs, like with EZAsm. >Dgni.gif

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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2005, 07:04:00 am »
So, DL...how hard is C to code, and what functions oes it support?
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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2005, 10:21:00 am »
ummm, haven't really started yet, gonna start after zelda. I read some of the tutorial that Ranman recommended, i get C for the comp. But wat are the specifics once u translate to CAlc? btw, i looked at the test demo included with demo in C, it actually looks understandable %)rolleyes2.gif

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« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2005, 01:45:00 am »
I dont mean to be spammy  SPAM SPAM SPAM!!!
But I think another program is worth considering, EZAsm.  I have programmed a pong game in it, in which will be the basis of my next project

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« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2005, 02:50:00 am »
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ummm, haven't really started yet, gonna start after zelda. I read some of the tutorial that Ranman recommended, i get C for the comp. But wat are the specifics once u translate to CAlc? btw, i looked at the test demo included with demo in C, it actually looks understandable %)rolleyes2.gif

 I'm glad to see you are looking into this.
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« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2005, 06:30:00 am »
If you can program C for a computer, it should be easy to do it for a calc (as long as the differences are explained in the documentation of the compiler, like in TIGCC).
Anyway, you will have to program more carfully. A computer won't claim about a lot of unused variables, arrays that are way bigger than they are needed... the calculator will because of its strongly limited RAM.

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« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2005, 10:25:00 am »
no expanation is given, all it saids is it uses SDCC's z80 compiler  :(sad.gif

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« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2005, 10:27:00 am »
maybe there is doc about this compiler somewhere
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