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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2012, 11:32:16 pm »
Yeah, well C isn't the easiest language ever, especially on the Prizm where there's not a lot of documentation, some calls are only documented by their prototypes in the header files and stuff can mess up easily... Not that I want to scare off programmers lol.

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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2012, 12:22:36 am »
Well there's a bunch of doc now with the Wiki on Cemetech, but even then I guess some people found C too tricky. It would definitively help to have a bigger range of languages.

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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2012, 12:44:53 am »
I wonder what the age distribution on Omnimaga looks like. Maybe there are spikes around certain age groups that happen to be in a busy year this summer.

EDIT: You know, I could actually try making one (anonymous of course), except that many of us have very ... interesting dates of birth.




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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2012, 04:32:52 am »
The two large core Omni usergroups joined at specific times it seems. The Eeems/geek/builder/ztrumpet group that was very active until mid 2011 joined in Early 2009. Then we had the rush of Nspire users after Ndless came out. However now the first group became less active and the second group was almost lost entirely to TI's wrath. Prizm never really took off due to lack of interest, and ASM/C on the Nspire was only done by an handful of users.

The vast majority of users join around 15 then quit after 18. Those who joins at 12 or 13 generally have faster shifts in interests and as a result, they generally don't even stay one year. Those who joins after hi-school generally remain quiet, as they lack the time to participate enough. There are a few exceptions, of course, such as annoyingcalc (who wasn't even born when Lionel started calc programming), or on the extreme opposite, Critor, Art_of_Camelot & Lionel. I stayed nearly one decade after finishing hi-school, but I slowed down in calc programming about a year after starting college.

If the Nspire scene nearly died in the future and if we are unable to get non-calc coders to use the computer section that used to be quite active too, then I guess Omni would have to focus mostly on Z80 calc programming, which still seems strong, or would have to find alternate ways to find members (maybe e-mail new ticalc.org authors who seem to have potential? I only ever done that once, with Nitacku, but that can be time-consuming since you got many programs to try). Maybe there could be computer game programming contests? (Now that the calc ones here are over)
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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2012, 05:10:32 am »
I just picked up this topic :)
Maybe a computer contest would be grate! Maybe in the rules it must say stuff like that you may not use gamemaker to make games as with that one it wouldn't be to fair against the hard-core from-scratch coders XD

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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2012, 06:43:15 am »
I would love a computer contest, personally. It doesn't even have to have physical prizes, save maybe a cool userbar like Cemetech did for their last contest.

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We have a computer section thought, right?  (if you have projects to showcase, for instance)

I have some of my own projects showcased there (three, actually) but something I've noticed is that they never seem to generate a lot of interest. Even though Daemons has about 7 pages worth of posts, a lot of the time it would only be me posting there or every so often an exchange between one other member. Even my project System Crash which ended up taking first for the Cemetech contest got very little attention here. It's actually very discouraging to try and continue a project when no one seems interested, which is understandable seeing how this is a Calculator Development forum. But I've tried looking for other sites like Omnimaga, but for computer development and I've found none. (Cemetech is closest, but it just feels too hostile (or would volatile be a better word?) for my tastes.) But if there was more interest here for computer development, I think Daemons would have been completed by now and I'd still be working on System Crash.

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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2012, 02:10:11 pm »
^ That last paragraph was almost exactly my experience there back in 2010, minus the computer and contest stuff.

Anyway a computer section sounds good :)
And I can agree the Prizm could be documented better, last I looked there wasn't much.. is anyone working on an emulator btw?
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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2012, 02:27:55 pm »
I would love a computer contest, personally. It doesn't even have to have physical prizes, save maybe a cool userbar like Cemetech did for their last contest.

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I have some of my own projects showcased there (three, actually) but something I've noticed is that they never seem to generate a lot of interest. Even though Daemons has about 7 pages worth of posts, a lot of the time it would only be me posting there or every so often an exchange between one other member. Even my project System Crash which ended up taking first for the Cemetech contest got very little attention here. It's actually very discouraging to try and continue a project when no one seems interested, which is understandable seeing how this is a Calculator Development forum. But I've tried looking for other sites like Omnimaga, but for computer development and I've found none. (Cemetech is closest, but it just feels too hostile (or would volatile be a better word?) for my tastes.) But if there was more interest here for computer development, I think Daemons would have been completed by now and I'd still be working on System Crash.
I really need to check the section again. An issue is that when the forums had 400 posts a day, I was busy then began to check some sections less often, especially projects, where posts became TL;DR for a certain period of time. Eventually I kinda lost interest in general so I never really started checking much again, even though there were less posts. I think my last post in the computer section dates back in June 2011 or so. With vacations arriving I began catching up on the more recent project topics, so hopefully I should get to the computer ones soon. :D

I think there are people interested, but with limited free time and the focus on calcs, they tend to not show it much. ALso a lot of projects lack any screenshots or graphics, so those would probably generate even less interest than others anyway.

Opening the archives to computer programs from non staff would also be a solution I think, but I fear if it got popular that it would fill Netham's server very fast, especially if most releases are 60 MB or so.
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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2012, 06:55:15 am »
But I've tried looking for other sites like Omnimaga, but for computer development and I've found none. (Cemetech is closest, but it just feels too hostile (or would volatile be a better word?) for my tastes.)

I'd agree that some responses I got on Cemetech were confusing, and terse at times, no matter how friendly and influential KermM was, he was only part of the picture. And people who are members here on Omnimaga seem to act a bit differently on Cemetech.

But anyway, I had noticed this general posting decline (and looking at the graph now I am pretty startled at the continuing downward trend), earlier in the year when I was really active (March-May 2012).
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It got to the point where there were little responses to my many posts at times by others except for DJ_O and sometimes Juju I guess. Maintaining that level of posting is hard and I'm afraid I can no longer afford to do that (at least until next year). But I hope people overall can stay motivated and post and reply on the topics that count.
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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2012, 09:10:57 am »
Yah true. As for myself I am busier than last year so getting more active is harder (although thankfully I feel better in general so aside from neck issues my health doesn't really stop me much from posting more) so it would be next to impossible to reach the activity levels I had a few years ago, plus I'M currently working on some music-related stuff, which cuts some of my free time. Hopefully that changes a bit in the future, though.

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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2012, 12:42:33 pm »
I think replying to "everything" just to try to make the forums more active is a wrong strategy and may give the feel of 'cheap' posting.
I think a big reason why the forum is less active is since there isn't (a) huge project(s) going on.


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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2012, 12:59:06 pm »
I think a big reason why the forum is less active is since there isn't (a) huge project(s) going on.
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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2012, 04:19:08 pm »
I think the Nspire series is just much less popular than it used to be a few years ago. Back then, the arrival of Ndless gave it some momentum, until TI started doing crap against it. I'm pretty sure that just because of that, people don't see as much future in the platform as back in 2010-11.

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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2012, 05:41:29 pm »
Honestly I think a greater emphasis on more viable programming platforms may help traffic. Prizm's, 83's/84's and computers are pretty unlocked while the nspire periodically gets unlocked and then blocked again a few months later. I am not by any means advocating leaving the nspire but I'm saying that we should emphasize some other kinds of  work also. I still say that if we could get the computer section up and running so that it is used a good amount more then it currently is being used then it would help the whole site. Also as others have said the prizm is here and its open a port of axe or of other languages to it may help it even more so that you could have everyone be able to develop for it.
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Re: Under 50 posts/day??? Yikes!
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2012, 07:34:31 pm »
I would be very active on the computer section if it had more emphasis. I could especially help embers with questions and issues they have with computer languages. The only reason I am not so on calc sections is that I don't understand Axe and Grammar so I'm not helpful any.

A computer section would also lead to a subgroup of users devoted to that, like we have members devoted to the music section.

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In the wake of these events, we can only ask, Why? Why do these people make these demands, what caused them to gather, and what are their future plans...