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As an ASM programmer, I like to discover what calculators can do, just like anyone else on this site.  I like to find out for myself what works and what doesn't.  If you tell me "it's not a good idea,"  that's fine, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work.  I can be allowed to try, can't I?  And in trying, I discover things that DO work.

I've asked at least two ASM questions on this site recently, with answers that I know people can provide.  Whether or not the final goal I have is hard or even bad, the fact remains that the question I ask has an answer.  For example:

If I ask how to restart crystal timers, it may not be a good idea to run interrupts every 16 cycles, but that doesn't mean I can't know how to restart crystal timers, right?

If I ask how to unlock flash, it shouldn't matter that it's recommended I stick to IM 1...you can still tell me how to unlock flash, no?

As this site is designed to help people learn, if I have a question that can be answered, please answer it.  Despite my unrealistic goal, I can still learn something for future use rather than fishing for answers.  Posts that simply state "I don't recommend this" or "why do you want to do this" without answering the question, unfortunately, let me down and discourage me because I feel that people think I don't know what I'm doing.

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Re: An Appeal: Please answer my questions even if my goal is unrealistic
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2011, 10:47:00 am »
I couldn't agree more. If we don't know the answer, we either don't post or post something useful. Not saying 'Why do you want to do this?'. If we say 'I don't recommend it', please say why.

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Re: An Appeal: Please answer my questions even if my goal is unrealistic
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2011, 11:13:12 am »
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If we say 'I don't recommend it', please say why.

And even then, we can still be told how to do it :D

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Re: An Appeal: Please answer my questions even if my goal is unrealistic
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2011, 11:14:06 am »
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If we say 'I don't recommend it', please say why.

And even then, we can still be told how to do it :D

The more information the better, you'll be thanked, perhaps rated up and we'll answer your questions too. (I'm not talking to Hot_Dog, to everyone who reads it).

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Re: An Appeal: Please answer my questions even if my goal is unrealistic
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2011, 11:27:42 am »
I don't know of many people with those questions. I personally try to answer questions that I know even if for the simple reason is to show off what I know. However, it should also be noted that some of the ideas are simply complex and difficult to explain :/

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Re: An Appeal: Please answer my questions even if my goal is unrealistic
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 03:04:13 pm »
Hmm I hate when people do that. You should warn them via PM (or temp-ban them) because this is against Omnimaga rules. When someone asks a question, it's because he wants to know how to do this. People should at least answer him. If he asks why you want to do this, fine, but at least he should answer.

One issue is that you may have a potential new discovery/innovation, and it requires the usage of an unconventional method. This attitude from these people goes against the TI community and I would like if it did not start happening again like in 2007.

By experimenting, it's how we discover how to do things like TI-Boy SE. However, to experiment, people may need help, and telling them to not bother will not allow them to achieve things like TI-Boy SE.

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Re: An Appeal: Please answer my questions even if my goal is unrealistic
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 05:24:29 pm »
With calc84's response. I think that was mostly because you said you were setting your interrupts for once ever 16 cycles. Which he was right, you can't do anything with that. But what you actually meant was more like 150 cycles. So I think that was just a simple misunderstanding.


But with the flash stuff, that's always been an area of hesitation. Changing the OS takes care and the original flash unlocks took several months of research before they were found. So the actual information was originally hard to get. And then, people don't want just anyone to be able to do stuff to the OS because it can lead to problems like flash corruption and deleted certificates. I don't remember where I heard it, but I remember a quote, "If someone can't figure out how to modify the OS, maybe they shouldn't be doing it." I don't necessarily agree with it, but that has been a thought. So that's probably why no one would answer your question about unlocking flash. But you did get the routine eventually though right?

Sorry if that sounds mean, but unlocking flash used to be a touchy subject. FloppusMaximus actually got a DMCA about his original flash unlock.
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Re: An Appeal: Please answer my questions even if my goal is unrealistic
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2011, 05:36:01 pm »
thepenguin77, I see what you're saying and it makes sense.

However, just for the future, it would be nice for an answer like "I don't think that's a good idea because 16 cycles is too short yadda yadda yadda...BUT, nevertheless, here's how to keep the timers going."

As for the flash, I see, but I was just mad that I didn't recieve ANY answer...even if I had been told "We can't tell you, and here's why...it's for safety of calculators, it's extremely hard, there's a chance of a DMCA, yadda yadda yadda," then I would have been given an answer.  I thought flash unlocking would be easy, so when I didn't recieve an answer I thought it was because people felt I shouldn't be making a custom IM 1 routine, so you can see why I was thinking "So?  That's not what my question was"

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Re: An Appeal: Please answer my questions even if my goal is unrealistic
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2011, 06:22:25 pm »
Yeah, sorry I didn't give you a more specific response. Flash stuff is more IRC talk anyways.

But don't forget, once you get flash unlocked, that's only half the battle. You still have the whole task of actually getting the modifications in the right place. A task during which I have destroyed about 200 wabbitemu OS's and about 10 real calculator OS's. :D
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Re: An Appeal: Please answer my questions even if my goal is unrealistic
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2011, 10:58:19 pm »
FloppusMaximus actually got a DMCA about his original flash unlock.

Are you serious? O.O Also when was that? *wonders what was violated by unlocking flash*
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Re: An Appeal: Please answer my questions even if my goal is unrealistic
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2011, 10:59:15 pm »
Probably they didn't want people to edit the OS x.x

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Re: An Appeal: Please answer my questions even if my goal is unrealistic
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2011, 11:05:02 pm »
I can't vouch for it's correctness or even if it's what I think it is(seeing as how I don't know z80 very well), but I believe the flash unlock is part of this routine:

Click here.

Obvious warning: Don't touch the certificate(unless you're sure you know what you're doing).
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Re: An Appeal: Please answer my questions even if my goal is unrealistic
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2011, 11:32:40 pm »
FloppusMaximus actually got a DMCA about his original flash unlock.

Are you serious? O.O Also when was that? *wonders what was violated by unlocking flash*

Ok, so this is what I remember reading. It was not a DMCA, but it was pretty close. Of course I don't know the whole story (I was 9 when that was posted), so you'll have to get someone older to explain what really happened.

And since I had to go hand copy the link from my old computer, here is the topic that I've had favorited for over a year from which I figured out how to unlock flash. It's by floppusMaximus and you can see on page 2 how cautious everyone is getting. It's pretty vague on the details so it took me quite a while to figure out how to do it...
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Re: An Appeal: Please answer my questions even if my goal is unrealistic
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2011, 11:34:48 pm »
I believe that one of TI's lawyers contacted them about distributing TI code, and told them not to.
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Re: An Appeal: Please answer my questions even if my goal is unrealistic
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2011, 11:35:55 pm »
O.O
Wow.
I am looking at that link, now! I don't want to use it, but I want to know how to :)