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#Prizm: A Prizm discussion group
« on: March 06, 2011, 06:08:39 pm »
I'd like to announce the new channel for the Casio Prizm on EFnet, #prizm. This wasn't really a formal thing, but given how many bots have gone through, I suppose it's stable enough for announcement.

Anyway, add it to your /join lists and enjoy  :)
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Re: #Prizm: A Prizm discussion group
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2011, 06:20:51 pm »
Yeah, it was funny with the bot party we had.  But it's not really a bot channel, just a discussion thing.

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Re: #Prizm: A Prizm discussion group
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2011, 06:24:49 pm »
Yeah, and pretty much after fudging around, it was stabilized. :)
Unfortunately, someone (*cough* KermM *cough*) took the opportunity of having Melisma opped to take over the chan. :P
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<alberthro> seems like this chan is just bots and very quiet people :P
<KermM_> I am both.
* Melisma gives channel operator status to KermM_
* KermM_ is now known as KermM
* KermM removes channel operator status from MrAtom AtomASM
* KermM removes channel operator status from KermM
<alberthro> chan takeover, no? :P
<KermM> Too many ops is bad.
<KermM> Notice I deop'd myself too ;)
<alberthro> meh :P at least have MrAtom op'd :P
* Ginsburg ([email protected]) has joined #prizm
* Melisma gives channel operator status to Ginsburg
* Ginsburg sets ban on *!*MALPBot@*
* Ginsburg sets ban on [email protected]
* Ginsburg sets ban on moko|log*!*mokomull@dsl-*.aei.ca
<alberthro> ...and I thought 1 op was enough? :P
<Merth> What if one's connection drops?
<KermM> You need two bots
<KermM> For that reason ^
<KermM> But they have to be linked bots
<KermM> So that they know to protect each other
<alberthro> err.... AtomASM and MrAtom was those bots protecting each other. :P
<KermM> they're also on different servers in case of netsplats.
<alberthro> good point.
<alberthro> still, no reason to deop MrAtom :P
<alberthro> at least make FishBot op'able, since he's the one who started the chan.
...and if you're curious, Fishbot is still not an op :P
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Re: #Prizm: A Prizm discussion group
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2011, 06:26:24 pm »
erm, fishobt/qwerty should be an op, isn't he the driving force in prizm cracking?

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Re: #Prizm: A Prizm discussion group
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2011, 06:35:56 pm »
erm, fishobt/qwerty should be an op, isn't he the driving force in prizm cracking?
Yeah, he's one of the devs working on a SDK/compiler. Yet someone thought it was "appropriate" to take over the chan... :P
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2011, 06:39:08 pm »
... and who thought it was appropriate?  I'd be fine with it if it were someone like DJ, or a casio cracker.  hopefully not some admin/moderator on another site.

whoever took over does not deserve a gold star.  period.

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Re: #Prizm: A Prizm discussion group
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2011, 06:41:29 pm »
... and who thought it was appropriate?  I'd be fine with it if it were someone like DJ, or a casio cracker.  hopefully not some admin/moderator on another site.

whoever took over does not deserve a gold star.  period.
Uhh, yeah. That's the issue here. Someone who hasn't done much Prizm dev (better yet, doesn't even own one at all) took over the chan. In case you didn't connect, KermM (who took over, as seen in the logs above) is the admin at Cemetech. Merth is a gmod at Cemetech.
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Re: #Prizm: A Prizm discussion group
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2011, 06:42:29 pm »
Why is he the head op?  He has nothing to do with the project!  I hope he steps away and makes qwerty the head op, from what I can see he's the one binding it all together.

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Re: #Prizm: A Prizm discussion group
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2011, 07:03:17 pm »
Um, wow, you two are a pair of extreme [not very nice people].  Obviously Fishbot has already been set as a channel op, but he is not currently in the channel.  Alberthro, you, on the other hand, have no Prizm and are not part of any Prizm programming team, so I don't know why you need two op'ed bots and then to start drama.  Maybe you should try seeing that real life is not about drama, and that bringing in a standard botnet run on real servers instead of two random bots from some user is not a power grab. It's great to see two uninformed people trying to start anger by talking about things they don't know about.  Also, I got a Prizm last week and am working with Qwerty and Graphmastur, not that it's any of your business.

Edit: Ashbad, I love how it's OK if the head of Omnimaga participates in the Prizm channel and/or heads it, but the head of Cemetech is not OK.  That's the kind of thinking that creates the tension that rips this community apart.
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Re: #Prizm: A Prizm discussion group
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2011, 07:08:25 pm »
I agree with Kerm here about his Edit, but maybe this discussion should best be discussed on IRC.  ;)

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Re: #Prizm: A Prizm discussion group
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2011, 07:10:50 pm »
I agree with Kerm here about his Edit, but maybe this discussion should best be discussed on IRC.  ;)
Definitely agreed, it was off-topic for any drama to be in this topic in the first place. :) Anyway, we havd some good discussions in the channel earlier about what we can do with the Prizm and how it might help us convince TI that what they're doing with the Nspire's programming ability is wrong.

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Re: #Prizm: A Prizm discussion group
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2011, 07:19:29 pm »
Merth is a gmod at Cemetech.
What do I have to do with this? All I did was point out that you should have more than one opped bot in case one loses connection. I don't have any control of any of the bots involved. Frankly, I'm not sure why it matters which "site" has ops in the channel, as long as it's an established botnet (whether that be the cemetech botnet, omnimaga botnet, or even the tcpa botnet). Making it a site issue just causes an unnecessary rift. Just put bots from both botnets in there.

Anyway, when Kerm comes to visit in a couple of weeks, I'll get the chance to play with his Prizm a bit. I'll likely get one and would definitely join in any development efforts (especially if there's anything I can do computer-side, I can work on stuff like that even without one, if there's anything that needs to be done).

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Re: #Prizm: A Prizm discussion group
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2011, 07:21:00 pm »
Why didn't I see this earlier. I'm always in for some good old fashioned Prizm hacking.
@Kerm, nice to see that you joined the Prizm hacking team. With your expertise in everything calc, we should be able to start rolling out projects soon.

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Re: #Prizm: A Prizm discussion group
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2011, 07:24:18 pm »
I really need to take a look at SH3 assembly and what not. I'd like to help as well, and that'd probably be the best way for me to do so right now.


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Re: #Prizm: A Prizm discussion group
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2011, 07:26:16 pm »
z80man, cheers, I appreciate your confidence in my abilities.  Finale, awesome! How many of you guys have a Prizm? Also take a look at my CX vs Prizm editorial if you guys get a chance, I humbly feel it explains TI's current problems with the communityy well.