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Re: A calculator to transfer to all calculators?
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2016, 10:22:40 pm »
The nspire with the 84+ keypad actually has some deficiencies. It is emulation, and it does not emulate some (all?) undocumented instructions. There are probably also a few normal instructions that behave slightly differently. This causes a few compatibility issues. I don't think the screen is that good either. I also seem to remember some sort of issues with it getting worn out due to keypads being swapped often. As far as price goes, it might be cheaper. It isn't produced anymore, and demand isn't' too high. I also am not sure if it is receiving updates anymore. Again, I'm not super familiar with nspire, so maybe check TI's website to see what the most up to date OS is for the old models.

I believe the latest OS is 3.9.X, while for the CX versions it's 4.3.0. So with poor emulation and quality of some hardware, and with no more updates... I think I'm better off getting a TI-84+.

EDIT: Okay, now, I've decided upon the TI-84+ SE. I've been doing some reading, and apparently the older revisions of the TI-84+ family (exceptionally the colour ones) had 128k of RAM instead of 48k. I presume that would be the one to buy, but I'm not sure exactly what hardware revision would be the one to get. I found one online with a hardware revision G, would that work? Thanks!

It honestly doesn't matter that much. The 128K is extra RAM that is only used by ASM programs. It isn't used as user storage. Only a tiny handful of programs even utilize the extra RAM, and I don't think any of them are games.

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Re: A calculator to transfer to all calculators?
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2016, 01:18:36 pm »
I've been looking around to see what hardware revisions have what, and as far as I can find is the following page about how to check: http://wikiti.brandonw.net/index.php?title=83Plus:Ports:15

From what it says, the G is a 50-50 chance.

Oh, thank you! Would a TI-84+ SE made in March of 2007 have the extra RAM?
And the USB drivers? Do those matter? And since I presume newer would be better in the case of USB drivers, would the above date be okay for newer drivers?
« Last Edit: September 17, 2016, 01:29:17 pm by kitten »
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Re: A calculator to transfer to all calculators?
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2016, 01:38:26 pm »
I'm not sure, I'd suggest looking at the link I gave and seeing if it has any more information. Otherwise you could ask in IRC to see if anybody else there knows.
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Re: A calculator to transfer to all calculators?
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2016, 04:29:06 pm »
It honestly doesn't matter that much. The 128K is extra RAM that is only used by ASM programs. It isn't used as user storage. Only a tiny handful of programs even utilize the extra RAM, and I don't think any of them are games.

I thought TI-Boy utilized the extra RAM? The more compatibility, the better, probably. And getting a calculator with the extra RAM would be cheaper than one without it, from what my options are.

I'm not sure, I'd suggest looking at the link I gave and seeing if it has any more information. Otherwise you could ask in IRC to see if anybody else there knows.

I found a thread that seems to give a lot of information about the different calculators, and it looks like the one I found checks out!
But now I have another question (and I hope it's the last): what's the difference between "BE" calculators and "SE" calculators? The one I found online is a S-0307G, supposedly a "BE" calculator. The link you sent doesn't seem to have any information on it.

Thanks!
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Re: A calculator to transfer to all calculators?
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2016, 04:49:07 pm »
BE is the normal 84+, nothing special about it
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Re: A calculator to transfer to all calculators?
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2016, 04:56:53 pm »
BE is the normal 84+, nothing special about it

Strange... The calculator is definitely a S-0307G, but the table says it's not a Silver Edition. Maybe someone made a typo? Thanks for clarifying.

EDIT: I did a bit more research and found another table on Cemetech, and it seems that there is both a TI-84+ and TI-84+SE with the same serial number? Oh, Texas Instruments...
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Re: A calculator to transfer to all calculators?
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2016, 06:35:31 pm »
It honestly doesn't matter that much. The 128K is extra RAM that is only used by ASM programs. It isn't used as user storage. Only a tiny handful of programs even utilize the extra RAM, and I don't think any of them are games.

I thought TI-Boy utilized the extra RAM? The more compatibility, the better, probably. And getting a calculator with the extra RAM would be cheaper than one without it, from what my options are.

I'm not sure, I'd suggest looking at the link I gave and seeing if it has any more information. Otherwise you could ask in IRC to see if anybody else there knows.

I found a thread that seems to give a lot of information about the different calculators, and it looks like the one I found checks out!
But now I have another question (and I hope it's the last): what's the difference between "BE" calculators and "SE" calculators? The one I found online is a S-0307G, supposedly a "BE" calculator. The link you sent doesn't seem to have any information on it.

Thanks!

A calculator with or without the extra RAM should be the same price. Also, BE is just your normal 84+. It has less storage than the SE model.

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Re: A calculator to transfer to all calculators?
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2016, 08:54:16 pm »
A calculator with or without the extra RAM should be the same price. Also, BE is just your normal 84+. It has less storage than the SE model.

Oh, it looks like you're right, there are cheaper ones! Guess my "research" wasn't quite as extensive as I hoped.
Thanks for the explanation on BE/SE, but since SE stands for Silver Edition, what does BE stand for?
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Re: A calculator to transfer to all calculators?
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2016, 03:52:58 am »
A calculator with or without the extra RAM should be the same price. Also, BE is just your normal 84+. It has less storage than the SE model.

Oh, it looks like you're right, there are cheaper ones! Guess my "research" wasn't quite as extensive as I hoped.
Thanks for the explanation on BE/SE, but since SE stands for Silver Edition, what does BE stand for?
Probably Basic Edition
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Re: A calculator to transfer to all calculators?
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2016, 12:53:13 pm »
Probably Basic Edition

That would probably make the most sense, yeah.

Anyway, now that all my questions are answered, I can finally buy another expensive calculator, and begin my journey into the land of the Zilog processor! I wonder what will go wrong this time :P
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