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Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« on: June 17, 2014, 05:34:44 pm »
So I just got a shiny new Nspire with Touchpad! I don't exactly know where to start with setting it up, though.


Questions:
1. How do I switch the OS to the CAS version?
2. How then do I get the OS to 3.6?
3. Will any of this affect 84+ keypad compatibility?
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Re: Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2014, 05:44:57 pm »
I'll answer the last question first, because my answer is easy: I don't know :P

Now, the first question is kind of easy to answer now that KhiCas is out. You just need to Ndless your OS and you have a CAS, no matter what your hardware revision is and no matter what your OS is (as long as it runs Ndless so 3.6 or 3.1).
Otherwise, if you want a real CAS OS on your calc, then you'll have to use nlaunch. The problem is that you can't have a CAS OS 3.6 with nlaunch. You can have a non CAS 3.6 OS, and every 3.1 and 3.2 OSes (CAS or not). You can even have two OSes on your calc if you want so you can have 3.6 non CAS and 3.1 CAS.

So what do you want ? :P
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Re: Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2014, 05:51:00 pm »
Well Nspire non-CX doesn't exactly have the most data storage space...
So you're saying that the when I use ndless I gain access to the CAS? If so that's good enough for me. I just want to be able to run my CAS programs from my CX CAS.


And just to be sure, none of this affects the 84+ touchpad, right?
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Re: Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2014, 06:16:01 pm »
You can't run TI's CAS with 3.6 on a non CAS calc.
If you do it for 3.1 you lose the 84+ keypad compatibility.
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Re: Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2014, 06:19:46 pm »
Quote from: Roondak on June 17, 2014, 05:51:00 pm
Well Nspire non-CX doesn't exactly have the most data storage space...
So you're saying that the when I use ndless I gain access to the CAS? If so that's good enough for me. I just want to be able to run my CAS programs from my CX CAS.


And just to be sure, none of this affects the 84+ touchpad, right?
The 84+ touchpad is in its own happy little world. ChiCAS (ha! English) is NOT normal OS-based CAS. It's a bridge between the Nspire documents, Lua, and the Ndless Giac/Xcas backend. You can only use it in the KhiCAS document. It's better than nothing, but not everywhere.
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Re: Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2014, 06:34:10 pm »
Quote from: bb010g on June 17, 2014, 06:19:46 pm
The 84+ touchpad is in its own happy little world.
Quote from: Streetwalrus on June 17, 2014, 06:16:01 pm
If you do it for 3.1 you lose the 84+ keypad compatibility.

Um... which of these is right?

Also, about the whole CAS thing. Can I run the 3.2 CAS, and if so, can I use ndless with it?
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Re: Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2014, 06:45:21 pm »
The CAS os does not include the 84+ ROM and probably emu so you can't use it.

To your questions : yes and no.
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Re: Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2014, 06:47:09 pm »
Quote from: Roondak on June 17, 2014, 06:34:10 pm
Quote from: bb010g on June 17, 2014, 06:19:46 pm
The 84+ touchpad is in its own happy little world.
Quote from: Streetwalrus on June 17, 2014, 06:16:01 pm
If you do it for 3.1 you lose the 84+ keypad compatibility.

Um... which of these is right?

Also, about the whole CAS thing. Can I run the 3.2 CAS, and if so, can I use ndless with it?
The keypad was made for only the non-CAS models, so the CAS OSs won't have the 84 part. The 84 emulation just sits in it's own corner of the OS isolated.
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Re: Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2014, 09:16:09 pm »
So basically, I can either have a CAS OS or I can have 84+ keypad work, but not at the same time.
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Re: Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2014, 09:34:02 pm »
That pretty much sums it up, yeah.
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Re: Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2014, 10:12:59 pm »
Thanks everyone. I guess I'll upgrade to 3.1 for now, and nlaunch 3.1 CAS, at least until my keypad comes in the mail.

Oh and also can I run ndless in nlaunched 3.1 CAS?
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Re: Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2014, 10:14:58 pm »
You can. In fact, I do.
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Re: Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2014, 01:29:56 pm »
So I've been trying to install nlaunchy for the 3.1 CAS OS. However, whenever I go to the maitence menu, I can't delete the current OS. How do I install this?


EDIT: And here's the readme http://www.ticalc.org/cgi-bin/zipview?nspire/asm/programs/nlaunchy.zip;readme.txt


EDIT2: So I did some testing, and I noticed that when I had the 1.4 Boot2 installed, the OS could not be deleted from the maintenance menu. When I pressed 2 on the menu nothing happened. This is a problem, as you have to delete the OS to install the other one. Anyone know how to fix this?
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Re: Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2014, 04:52:06 am »
I have a question about this.  I have the Nspire touchpad, non cas. You guys are saying that it's not possible to have the CAS OS installed without losing the TI-84 functionality.  Why couldn't I install 2 OS's? 3.6.XXX and 3.2.XXX.  Then boot into 3.6 for the use of the 84's keypad and reboot into 3.2 to use CAS?


Would that work?
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Re: Need help setting up an Nspire non-CX non-CAS
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2014, 09:01:08 am »
Quote from: iregret on July 09, 2014, 04:52:06 am
I have a question about this.  I have the Nspire touchpad, non cas. You guys are saying that it's not possible to have the CAS OS installed without losing the TI-84 functionality.  Why couldn't I install 2 OS's? 3.6.XXX and 3.2.XXX.  Then boot into 3.6 for the use of the 84's keypad and reboot into 3.2 to use CAS?


Would that work?
It would work but you have a very limited amount of memory available on the Nspire Touchpad so you can store much stuff besides the two OS's.
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