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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #255 on: January 05, 2011, 12:12:08 pm »
I know about the loop myself (caused by the absence of appropriate input?) and I've advised my peers to stay with the oldschool models.

You can use Ndless.

If you have a black basic TI-Nspire, you have to replace the TouchPad keypad by a ClickPad keypad and install OS 1.7 + Ndless 1.7.

If you have a black CAS TI-Nspire, you have to install OS 1.4 + Ndless 1.4.


Ndless 1.4 supports programs built for Ndless 1.7. Ndless 1.4 is simply a port of Ndless 1.7 on OS 1.4.
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #256 on: January 05, 2011, 12:53:19 pm »
Just being cautious I'd presume, you're probably totally correct, Critor (though I'd wait a few months years for the beta myself). Although there is no hard evidence of total OS annihilation, I wouldn't want to rely on scouring the forums for fixes if there are. A most users imply "crashes" without supplying a cause, the malware-filled (not to mention illegal) OS dumps from rapidshare may be my only backup if something unthinkable happens.
Thanks for the help

PS: Is downgrading to 1.7 is the only way to run the ndless currently. If so, there is absolutely no way my Nspire (being both touchpad hardware and CAS software) will be able to. I know about the loop myself (caused by the absence of appropriate input?) and I've advised my peers to stay with the oldschool models.
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #257 on: January 05, 2011, 04:50:36 pm »
Ndless does not modify any part of the OS filesystem, only the data loaded to RAM (which is wiped upon reset). Ndless cannot permanently do anything to the Nspire OS. Ndless programs, on the other hand, can do anything they want. But I seriously doubt any developers would want to sneak any malware into their programs, though.
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #258 on: January 05, 2011, 05:17:50 pm »
Sorry asking but I can't find the ndless_installer in https://www.unsads.com/scm/svn/nsptools/Ndless/trunk/tools/  O.O

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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #259 on: January 05, 2011, 05:22:35 pm »
I did not check, but I don't think there is one. You need to compile the source code yourself.

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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #260 on: January 05, 2011, 05:42:08 pm »
Thank you

And how do I compile it, I don't know how to download the files that I need

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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #261 on: January 05, 2011, 05:50:16 pm »
Follow the directions in doc/Ndless-Development.txt.  Hackspire also might have some information relevant to this.


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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #262 on: January 05, 2011, 06:19:45 pm »
It took me a while to figure out how to get the development set up. In the end lol I had moved the Ndless folder to a diffrent location ol and didnt update the path.
My point here is... Make sure you did everything correctly.

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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #263 on: January 06, 2011, 06:32:45 am »
When I use the make command I get this error:

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make all in libndls...
make[1]: Entering directory '/c/ndless/libndls'
nspire-gcc -os -nostdlib -c any_key_pressed.c
./nspire-gcc: line 27: arm-none-eabi-gcc: command not found
make[1]: *** [any_key_pressed.o] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory '/c/ndless/libndls'
make: *** [subdirs] Error 1

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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #264 on: January 06, 2011, 06:37:38 am »
do you have Yagarto installed? (and it's bin folder in your Path variable)
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #265 on: January 06, 2011, 07:02:11 am »
No. I installed the MinGW

EDIT: I installed YAGARTO and now i'm getting this error:

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any_key_pressed.c:22:16: fatal error: os.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated
make[1]: ***[any_key_pressed.o] Error 1
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #266 on: January 06, 2011, 11:56:13 am »
how did you get the source, because it's strange that os.h is missing.
it should be under /include
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #267 on: January 06, 2011, 01:26:23 pm »
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the malware-filled (not to mention illegal) OS dumps from rapidshare
Well, since the Nspire OS images are signed with 1024-bit RSA keys, third-party-modified versions cannot be transferred to a calculator without it rejecting them :)

That is, unless someone knows TI's private key, which makes them able to re-sign those images... However, the normal way of getting a private RSA key is factoring the public key - with the minor issue that factoring 1024-bit RSA keys is years ahead the state of the art in factoring algorithm implementations. The state of the art is the factorization of a 768-bit RSA key ( http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=12958 ), and factorization of a 1024-bit RSA key is "just" between 1e3 and 1e4 times harder, i.e. it should require at least ten thousand terabytes (!!) of storage space and end up with fiddling with a quasi-square matrix of several billion elements on each side :D
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #268 on: January 06, 2011, 01:40:59 pm »
Or you could just try using random combinations of characters, and maybe with a (very very big) bit of luck, you'll find it.
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire Clickpad/Touchpad
« Reply #269 on: January 06, 2011, 01:57:29 pm »
You're more likely to win the lottery 18 times in a row (probability is approximately 2-493) than you are to guess one of the 512-bit factors at random (probability 2-512).

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