Author Topic: The future of Omnimaga (Read 7192 times)

DJ Omnimaga · « **on:** January 06, 2008, 05:10:00 am »

Before continuing, let me clear a few things up, so people wont ask questions about them, causing the thread to go off topic:

-First of all, as lot of you may alerady know, english is not my native language, so my apologies if my posts are hard to understand.

-#TCPA is the main TI calculator discussion channel in the TI community.

-Omnimaga is a TI programming/PC game making team, a non-profit music label and a calculator RPG download site, all combined together. The main focus is TI game programming though.

-#omnimaga is its IRC channel, altough the userbase is slightly different.

Now here's the deal with the site: as you may have noticed, Omnimaga has been down since the week began. In fact it was shutted down. It was deleted Monday night (altough the IRC channel still stayed up, since I don't have ownership of it. tcpa users got blocked for a while.) because I felt the site started too much controversy in the community (mainly #tcpa almost as a whole, and other users scattered on various TI forums), and almost everyone aside from Omnimaga members started bashing the site by saying half-false informations about it. They judged the entire Omnimaga site based on two or three members of the #omnimaga IRC channel (including myself). It has lasted 2 years now. The beginning of the week was the peak of it.

Omnimaga (and myself) are not hated because of TI-BASIC, because some users program ASM and C and I don't even do calc programming anymore (I do music and RPG Maker stuff). We are hated because they think that the entire internet should run based on the following guide:
http://sw.deri.org/~matteo/welcome.php

Omnimaga, however, doesn't follow this guide.

Also, as you remember back a year ago I was very depressed because of real life stuff, and the anti-omnimaga propaganda was starting to piss me off extremly bad, because it was almost like they were trying to convince everyone from not joining. This caused me to overeact a lot to it.

I explained about my situation and Instead of understanding, they decided to continue the bashing, and made it even worse. There was even an episode where someone joined #tcpa as xlibman (my old nickname), and joined #omnimaga as Netham45. They did it to try to make me feel even more down, trying to make me feel like Omnimaga (and myself) are worthless, until the point, Monday night, where they made me so pissed off that I decided to delete the entire Omnimaga website. Everything was gone. But I felt it was the only way to end the war between both communities. It was really starting looking like TI-Files vs ticalc.org. Someone even threatened legal actions against myself (for viewing the #tcpa IRC logs avaliable for the entire public) and someone (I know who but I'm not giving names in this post) even took over the old dyndns.org URL we used for one year for the Omnimaga website before registering omnimaga.org, which something wrong also seems to have happened to.

Some friends from various place then asked me to not make the decision of shutting the site down final. This leads me to talk about the future of Omnimaga.

If things go right, Omnimaga website will come back in one month. That could be earlier like it could be later, depending of Invisionfree load of work and meeting deadlines for the release of Invisionfree to Zetaboards conversion package, which halted their restoration service.

There is a temporary replacement forum located at http://s1.zetaboards.com/omnimaga until this happens. However the board requires all guests to login to be viewed and we may disable registration completly for a while due to someone who keeps registering every day to evade a ban.

Currently the omnimaga.org domain name is broken, which explains the long URL. It was set to point to the temporary board until Invisionfree backs up the real board, which will probablySome of you may be aware that DNS can take up to 72 hours to update when you change a domain name's setting. However, this time it never updated. I asked for help on Invisionfree and Yahoo but still nothing concrete. We cannot go back to omnimaga.dyndns.org since it just got taken over today (it redirect to ticalc.org IRC page, which have #tcpa as channel and another). This is partially why I am posting this tonight.

Basically this means there are big chances that Omnimaga comes back. If there are enough people who decide to come back, the site activity will return to its normal state. If, however, not enough people, especially staff, comes back, the site will no longer be updated and made as read-only archive, the team disbanded, with this post as final news article.

Regardless of if it stay updated or not, I may not be the one in charge of the website though. I also requested the removal of my ticalc.org profile, like I did a while ago with Calcgames. I regret for having spent 6 years of my life (sometimes 10 hours per day between school, work and real life problems such as my mother trying to commit suicide twice in 2002) contributing to the TI community only to be threated this way at the end. I know I got features but a ticalc news article doesn't equal people respect.

Radical Pi · « **Reply #1 on:** January 06, 2008, 02:54:00 pm »

As far as I can tell, that "Welcome to the Internet" thing is a joke. Purposefully. It's in the Funny section. Yet, what it says is important info, in a way. That's basically how the Internet works, albeit not THAT extreme. I wouldn't consider them the ultimate rules to live by in this world, but if some actually do, I'll just have to play their own game: not care, just ignore them. They've become the joke, taking something so pointless so seriously.

If you think about it, nothing should be taken seriously. Life is short, so it's only right to have as much fun as you can while alive. Maybe for some people, seriousness is fun. But for me, silliness is fun.

The whole "Omnimaga Versus The World" issue is plain silly too, but not the fun kind. Omnimaga not supporting flaming/personal attacks is a good thing, in my opinion. And technically, it supports the first piece of "advice" on the Welcome page, so it should be a good thing in the opinions of "The World" too. This whole thing makes no sense when you think about it and start noticing all the contradictions.

To sum it all up... Everyone needs to take a step back and realize that we all suck and nothing can ever change it

kucalc · « **Reply #2 on:** January 06, 2008, 05:22:00 pm »

I hope you are alright DJ Omnimaga. I'm sure many people appreciate what you do for the community.

I was really looking forward to checking out Omnimaga (some of you may know me as the CASIO guy), but instead found it to be gone. I just got my TI-89 and I'm waiting for my TI-Nspire CAS to come this week.

I just hope things turn up to be better for you.

kucalc

bfr · « **Reply #3 on:** January 06, 2008, 08:33:00 pm »

Hey, it's the Casio guy!

DJ Omnimaga, remember all the people that care for you and Omnimaga whenever you get upset. I'm glad the regular Omnimaga forums are coming back though.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #4 on:** January 06, 2008, 10:10:00 pm »

Good news: Thanks to Darth_Android (Telroth) I managed to fix my domain name so this temp board can be accesssed at http://www.omnimaga.org once again! I had to rely on http://freedns.afraid.org/ for DNS because the yahoo ones didn't seemed to work properly anymore.

JonimusPrime · « **Reply #5 on:** January 06, 2008, 11:27:00 pm »

Good make sure to get a topic about it being fixed at as many places as posible so we can get people set up and back to omnimaga.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #6 on:** January 07, 2008, 01:14:00 am »

yeah i will post about it on UTI, MC and TI-freakware . Some staff and members won't join until the old board is back though, and I'm not sure everybody will come back

Netham45 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 07, 2008, 05:09:00 am »

the only thing that really annoys me about zeta(asides from the theme/smileys) is the way it handles replies when you are not logged in. Instead of presenting a login box, it posts,

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DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #8 on:** January 07, 2008, 08:18:00 am »

Yeah i do not like the error boxes, sometimes they are too unexplanative or confusing

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #9 on:** January 07, 2008, 06:16:00 pm »

i am afraid to say that brandonw is the one who triggered most of those events here. Andy did too but he barely joined. IIRC he was the one with the legal action threat.

It's a shame that even the ones who talk more about calculators does that. Even JoelS, threefingeredguy, KermMartian, sjrberg (MissingIntellect) did this often and NanoWar did once or twice and he even said that I should shut the site down. Add a bunch of other people in the channel. On top of that there are two people in that list I helped a lot and supported them a lot when they got into similar situations (getting bashed), and some of you on MaxCoderz may have a guess of one of them, and look what they do

The tcpa logs are avaliable here:

http://andy.calcgames.org/irc/logs/tcpa/

They also are avaliable at two (?) other different places in real time, meaning they update every seconds or so, but I am not allowed to post these links here as they will probably ask MaxCoderz staff to delete them (since it's running from their computers and slow down/eat bandwidth).

I could not find the logs with your comment yet, but I know it was between spring 2006 and before I lost internet access in february. I,ll search more, there are many of them.

Btw, unless I missed another one, I think this was the peak of Omnimaga bashing:
http://andy.calcgames.org/irc/logs/tcpa/tcpa.061130.txt
That day there was even someone who signed up as "xlibman" (formerly my nickname) in tcpa then later I heard of an incident with the guy called "smart" who joined #omnimaga (or #unitedti?) as Netham45, one of the Omnimaga staff. I do not know if he posted junk though. Just CTRL+F and search for Omnimaga or Kevin

Then here is the next big one which triggered the shut down of the site and the removal of my file request at ticalc.org and United-TI:
http://andy.calcgames.org/irc/logs/tcpa/tcpa.080101.txt

To come back on the site status, after trying to figure out what was wrong I decided to rely on an alternate site for the omnimaga.org name servers so the domain name works again, because something is wrong with Yahoo ones.

So you can access the site at the following URLs:

Temporary site/forums: http://omnimaga.org
Temporary calc RPGs section: http://omnimaga.unitedti.org/archive_v3.html
Temporary music download section: http://www.netham45.org/omnimaga/originals
The IRC channel: http://omnimaga.unitedti.org/irc/ (altough you can use an external client)

Or if you need something that isn't here:
http://omnimaga.unitedti.org

I do hope Invisionfree respect their deadline for the release of the IF to ZB converter, so they start processing board restorations again, making the site avaliable again faster

And just before someone asks spengo was banned because he has been generally overly an asshat toward me and others. Whenever I would feel down he called me emo. On the Omnimaga forums, and sometimes the IRC channel when we posted about buying a new computer and it didn't satisfy him he started with insults to try to make the person feel like a retard toward everyone else, same for when we posted something that he knew for a while, even if some others didn't, he would imply stuff like "Why did you even posted about that? Everyone know this". There were other similar episodes before. Now because of all this it get near impossible to tell if he's trolling or not when he start criticising someone or someone's work, because in general he's always criticising every single smallest things that doesn't even matter at all. He was also banned for spying in the channel to report anything that is negative and make a huge thing about it in #tcpa so others join the conversation and start an omnimaga-mocking. He was kicked numerous times beforehand and banned at least once. He also lost his Omnimaga staff position prior that in 2006 partially for those reasons.

BrandonW was banned for similar things, minus the emo part. He wanted me to run the channel like what he want, aka allow people to insult, flame, be arrogant to and bash others no matter if it hurts or not, and completly disallow having fun in other ways like being random for a couple of minutes before going back to normal talk. He is acting like he is superior because he did MSD8x and other cool stuff for calcs such as discovering MirageOs save the whales secret.

Allynfolksjr was a pure troll, nothing else to say. However everyone is a troll imho, the reason he was banned is because he did it way too much. So much that it went annoying and disruptive.

aside from him that were the only #TCPA troublemakers who came in my channel. They do even worse in #tcpa.

dinhotheone · « **Reply #10 on:** January 07, 2008, 10:29:00 pm »

i like the new url, nostalgic, idk. luck on the zetaboards upgrade converter deadline, got my fingers crossed.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #11 on:** January 11, 2008, 09:42:00 pm »

http://support.zetaboards.com?topic=25687/1/#new

Katmaster · « **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2008, 10:06:00 am »

Wow...looks like lots of fun stuff has happened since I've been gone...

Netham45 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2008, 06:00:00 pm »

yay, our new boards first necro post!

Yea, stuff has happened. Not all for the best, either, I'm afraid.

Katmaster · « **Reply #14 on:** February 15, 2008, 06:21:00 pm »

Haha, I'm the master of necro posts, of course... Yeah looks like none of it happened for the best. But that's life isn't it?

Author Topic: The future of Omnimaga (Read 7192 times)

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