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TI GTC is dying?
« on: April 04, 2013, 01:10:27 am »
TI GTC is a great on-calc IDE&compiler for 68k calculators. However, I can't find an available download link now :( The official site gtc.ti-fr.com simply shows an error message.
Please give me a link available, thanks a lot!

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Re: TI GTC is dying?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2013, 01:31:11 am »
I think GTC died a long while ago. I am surprised that it's no longer online, though, since the parent site, http://www.ti-fr.com , is still online and active. Thankfully that isn't lost forever, like Aichi's map editor and until a few years ago, FastRPL, because Archive.org had a copy of the old site and files: http://web.archive.org/web/20120228020626/http://gtc.ti-fr.com/

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Re: TI GTC is dying?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2013, 01:44:56 am »
I think GTC died a long while ago. I am surprised that it's no longer online, though, since the parent site, http://www.ti-fr.com , is still online and active. Thankfully that isn't lost forever, like Aichi's map editor and until a few years ago, FastRPL, because Archive.org had a copy of the old site and files: http://web.archive.org/web/20120228020626/http://gtc.ti-fr.com/

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Re: TI GTC is dying?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2013, 03:11:45 am »
GTC never got much of a chance to live (let alone reach its full potential), due to a then-powerful foe successfully using multiple tactics to belittle and delay it (until the TI-68k ASM community was mostly dead). GTC probably wouldn't have received that much hatred from the poisonous person if it had been purely an on-calc compiler, without computer version, which the poisonous person felt was a threat to the program he was the so-called maintainer of.
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Re: TI GTC is dying?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2013, 03:31:48 am »
Yeah I remember the anti GCC4TI/GTC stuff. Someone wanted to have the entire monopoly on C development softwares and all of 68K programming althogether, so he bashed anything he wasn't involved with <_< (IIRC the attacks against GTC were directed at its computer version, not the on-calc one, but the way they were launched made it sound like GTC as a whole was worthless, which wasn't the case, since I heard that people used it in the past.)

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Re: TI GTC is dying?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 05:03:47 am »
http://gtc.ti-fr.com/ is live again :)
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Re: TI GTC is dying?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2013, 05:06:55 am »
I would probably be pretty heavy into the 68k scene if I had a 92+ instead of a regular 92. Very few tools available for the old one.

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Re: TI GTC is dying?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2013, 05:28:07 am »
Yup, that's because the old TI-92 and TI-92 II do not have a ROM_CALL table or anything in the way of stable locations for OS functions..
Fargo helps a bit, but the availability of the newer models, which, besides the ROM_CALL table, have more memory and wider math functionality, pretty much precluded the TI-92 (II) from becoming a massive hit wrt. ASM programming.
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Re: TI GTC is dying?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2013, 05:35:19 am »
Yeah. I can't even upgrade the OS unless I make my own Plus cartridge. It's not such a crazy idea once you see that the conenctor is just 2 2x10 .1' pin headers.

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Re: TI GTC is dying?
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2013, 09:44:06 am »
I never managed to get any ASM program to run on my TI-92 (I). I read the Fargo doc and couldn't even get close to understand anything I had to do.