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Note: if you don't like Levak's way of speaking, it's best to just ignore him or better, only take the useful info from his posts, and if you really feel he has been out of line, then there's a thumbs down icon right above his post and a report to moderator link at the bottom. A 404 not found will occur when sending a report but it will send and mods will get notified.

I think he was fine, though, although we need to understand that each other's native language isn't English. Your post, from my point of view, could have misled people into installing OS 3.6 the normal way, thinking it runs Ndless, especially if people don't bother reading all the post. As for Levak, his posts often sounds more rude than he normally is, he's definitively no troll and while we prefer that people remain as courteous as possible, he definitively has no intention to single you out as forum user. Installing OS 3.6 is very, very dangerous from an Ndless point of view, so he's just trying to save people from installing it by mistake.

By the way, "Adieu" in French means "so long" or "farewell" over here.

Right DJ Omnimaga!

I only meant to help & things get blown out of proportion.
Adieu or not

This is why I said to look at my existing thread "Is the new OS worth installing..."
as that addresses hardware that has the 3.6 OS on it as well as what's needed to actually
install Ndless.....Whatever.

I'm done...When the hardware I ordered comes in, I will post on my own thread for help.

Thank you,
Stefos

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Wow. It's been 4 months already and I haven't done anything... OS 3.6 is here for Ti-Nspire series. Is there any new ways for installing Ti-Nspire CX CAS into a Ti-Nspire CX now? Would it work if I put OS 3.6?

Hey man,

I downloaded the 3.6 OS & you can run Ndless but only under the Boot 2 (There are 2 boots to go under btw)
and you have to install 3.1 OS as well under Boot 2.
There is some hardware you have to buy & hook up & then you have to reset to run Ndless.
I don't know what you're talking about the way you said it. If someone reads this without knowing everything he might get confused and try to install OS 3.6 first the official way which is a doomed way.

The correct facts are : You can run OS 3.6 with nLaunchy and if you want you can run Ndlessed OS 3.1 with nLaunchy switch feature (see the many Ndless switch topics).

In order to have nLaunchy available you have to have boot2 3.1. This is where the hardware part comes. If you don't have boot2 3.1 you may use a TTL/USB adaptator to reprogram this boot2.

But this is not the end. If you have an Nspire with >= J-revision, you have to buy a new mother board from a reseller.

So next time, don't say you can install Ndless and OS 3.6, these are two seperates things (see Ndless switcher 3.6).

Understood Levak.......I think you misunderstood what I meant. 
This is why I said to ipwn3r456 to look at my thread called: "Worth Upgrading?" which is posted BELOW this thread.

I didn't get more technical because I wanted him to do the spade work & read what I posted.

I jumped the gun without asking here & installed 3.6  My hardware is an "E" model which has Boot 1 & Boot 2.

Nuff said....

ipwn3r456 Please read the entire thread with the title "Is 3.6 worth upgrading to?" or Whatever it's called.

Technical advices is given & you should see what model of TI Nspire CX CAS calculator you have.

Post online what you have insofar as the CX CAS calculator model is concerned & the nice folks here will help you.
Stefos

P.S. Levak...In the future, try asking people what they mean before accusing.....Not good manners.
Adieu

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Wow. It's been 4 months already and I haven't done anything... OS 3.6 is here for Ti-Nspire series. Is there any new ways for installing Ti-Nspire CX CAS into a Ti-Nspire CX now? Would it work if I put OS 3.6?

Hey man,

I downloaded the 3.6 OS & you can run Ndless but only under the Boot 2 (There are 2 boots to go under btw)
and you have to install 3.1 OS as well under Boot 2.

There is some hardware you have to buy & hook up & then you have to reset to run Ndless.

Take a look at my thread "Worth Upgrading?"
Stefos   [Look for my name in the thread, I started it! :) ]

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Hi Everyone,

Thank you for your input!
This helps in understanding calculator languages.

Perhaps this thread should be pinned?

Just an idea,
Stefos

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Hi everyone,

As you probably know, I'm very new here!

My A.S. degree is in IT.

I don't know much about calculator languages so I'd appreciate the help & probably so would anyone else who reads this!

Can someone please clarify the following languages & their interfacing, as it were, with the TI NSpire CX CAS?
I don't really understand the differences insofar as ease of actually using the languages goes & which language can do what
programming wise.

Basic
C/Assembly
LUA

What do I currently know or think I know?
Basic was/is a "basic" boolean type of calculator language for making programs for the calculator
C is a programming language for computers....Not sure exactly how it's been matriculated to calculators except for the fact
that commands are executed
Assembly...I have ZERO idea where this fits
LUA is TI's proprietary calculator programming language?

I ask because on ticalc.org, Assembly & Basic & LUA programs are found but not C based programs.
Other websites probably use the other languages.

Thank you from me & every other viewer of this particular thread in the future!
Stefos

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FormulaPro should work as-is on OS 3.6, as it is just Lua, as critor said :)

It also uses some special "tricks" that I'haven't checked on 3.6, though, so let me see if those still work or not.... (I'll edit later)
(Anyway, it shouldn't crash as there is an error catcher...)

Great!  Let me know please.

At this point, using Ndless is good only for the C/assembly programs for the CX CAS....I don't see a use for a .pdf file reader program as I
prefer a book, unless.......

Thanks,
Stefos

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General Calculator Help / Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« on: December 12, 2013, 10:44:58 am »
It looks ok.

Thanks, so I'll place an order for it & post back when I get it to get help in actually doing what needs to be done.

I've never did this before!

Merci,
Stefos

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General Calculator Help / Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« on: December 12, 2013, 08:59:47 am »
No, Boot2 3.2.4.7 is not ok for this tutorial.
You need Boot2 3.1, and that's why you need to reflash it first using an USB/TTL interface first.

I could see no amazon link embedded in your post.

Understood completely.....Thank you

Here's what I intend on buying as I have Win 7 professional...
http://www.amazon.com/NooElec-Adapter-Harnesses-Jumper-Compatible/dp/B009GXEF8A/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1386856661&sr=1-4&keywords=usb+to+ttl+converter

Will this work?

Merci,
Stefos

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General Calculator Help / Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« on: December 11, 2013, 10:27:25 pm »
After you've installed Boot2 3.1 and Nlaunch, you can run either OS 3.1 or OS 3.6.

You can even have both OSes together in your TI-Nspire and switch between them when needed.
Check this: http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=13213&lang=en

Like I said above, everything is possible ;)

Hi again,

Well....I went to the TI planet link you gave me & my boot 2 code version is 3.2.4.7...This is o.k right to take it to the next step
you mentioned?  It seems so.

Can you please let me know?  Also, Did you look at the amazon.com link I embedded?  Is this what I should buy?

Thanks,
Stefos

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No, as FormulaPro is written in the official TI-Nspire language, Lua, and not in C/assembly.



And you don't destroy your calculator by reinstalling OS 3.1/Ndless.
I know how to permanently destroy a TI-Nspire through software beyond repair, and I've never revealed how to publicly.
You really have to want it... You can't destroy it by mistake...


You have the right to stay with OS 3.6, but please avoid contributing to the speading of such rumors.

Thank you. :)

Hi critor,

I'm not trying to spread rumors sir....I'm only stating that I don't want to destroy my calculator through my own mistakes
trying to get OS 3.1/Ndless installed.
That's all.

Please understand.

Thank you!
Stefos

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General Calculator Help / Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« on: December 11, 2013, 08:24:57 pm »
It's just about connecting 3 wires - no need to know anything about electronic and I'm not an electronic dude at all either.


Yes, after reflashing Boot2 3.1, installing Nlaunch, launching OS 3.1, and installing Ndless, you'll be able to run C/assembly programs and PDF/image readers.

Boot2 reflashing apart, other steps only use softwares, are easy and pretty well documented online.

So, After I do this, What will my OS actually be then?
3.1 OR 3.6?

When Boot 2 "ignores" the minimal installable OS version set in memory,
what does that leave me with basically, is what I'm asking.

Thanks,
Stefos

P.S. It looks like I have to spend $10 for the contraption from amazon.com
Can you take a look at it & tell me if that's the one to get please?

Merci

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General Calculator Help / Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« on: December 11, 2013, 07:20:27 pm »
You didn't update to 3.6, did you? If not, just download Ndless and follow the user guide. critor's instructions were only meant to be used if you updated to 3.6 and thereby updated to boot2 3.2.4.

Yeah, I did update to 3.6 on the handheld.

Man, I have a feeling that If I try to do the above, my 3.6 OS & the reflashed Boot 2 3.1 will ALL be shot! LOL
This would NOT make me a happy camper.

I'm not an electronics dude so I don't know what he means.

Thank you,
Stefos

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@Stefos and @dislexicengineer

Jim Bauwens and I are working on improving (actually, recreating) the whole framework that powers FormulaPro.
Once we're done with that, it'll take very little time to get an "MEPro"-like for the Nspire, I believe :)

Hi Adriweb,

I now have the 3.6 OS

Will I have to reflash anything to run this program?
I don't know if the 3.2.4 OS is what you're working with or not.

I really don't need to run converted .pdf's on my calculator but would like to run the C/assembly programs,
if that's what you're making obviously.

I don't want to destroy my calculator to run a program...Know what I mean?

Thank you,
Stefos

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General Calculator Help / Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« on: December 11, 2013, 06:54:59 pm »
Hi,


Some TI-Planet content is available in both english and french.
It should default to english for guests when their computer language is not french.

Once regestired, you can set your preferred language in your user profile.

Anyway, you may ask your question in both french and english - most of us speak english too over there :)



If you did update your TI-Nspire HW-E to 3.6, then your Boot2 was also updated to 3.2.4.

To freely read PDF you need Ndless which requires OS 3.1
But OS 3.6 forbids you to install OS 3.1.
Thus you need Nlaunch, which makes Boot2 ignore the minimal installable OS version set in memory.
But Nlaunch only works with Boot2 3.1.

You then need to reflash Boot2 3.1.
This requires an external hardware: an USB/TTL interface:


By putting the TI-Nspire in Boot2 receive mode (Doc+Enter+2 while rebooting) and connecting ground, Tx and Rx to three contacts on the TI-Nspire bottom J01/Dock connector, you can reflash Boot2 3.1 with the Hyperterminal software coming with Windows up to Vista.


After this is done you can litterally do everything you want with your calculator, and we have comprehensive tutorials in both french and english for each step :)

Hi,

Thank you for replying!

I went to TI Planet & set my default language to British English but the page still shows up in French!

Also, I don't know how to rewire the hardware of the CX CAS...Is this what the USB/TTL interface is supposed to do?

I'm a little confused.

Also, After I do the reflashing, Can I run programs in C/assembly?

I don't want to destroy my calculator.

By the way I have Windows 7 Professional, Will this have the "Hyperterminal" software you mentioned?

Thank you,
Stefos

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General Calculator Help / Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« on: December 11, 2013, 04:59:24 pm »
I asked Critor on TI-Planet, he says that it is still possible through a USB/TTL interface to reprogram the Boot2 3.1 via the dock connector (and gain access to Ndless after installing OS 3.1).
But if you want more details, don't ask me, ask him :P

Hi & thank you for your kindness in asking him!

I emailed him privately as I dont' know how to change the TI Planet website to display in English.
(Maybe it never was meant to be "viewed in English".....I don't know)

Anyway, Using programs written in C/Assembly & reading converted .pdf's are what really matters to me
insofar as Ndless is concerned.

Why would TI "block" a program like Ndless?  I thought they were for this type of thing? Does it compete with their apps?
The TI CX CAS has ZERO apps you can buy & TI Tech Support never said anything about any Mechanical Engineering app
to be released (which is something I'm also interested in) at all!

Thanks,
Stefos

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