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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #210 on: June 17, 2011, 12:29:04 pm »
why not // ? is that already something?
* yrinfish checks the new wiki

ah, it is...

what about ./? the dot is a 'point' and .* for multiplication
« Last Edit: June 17, 2011, 12:32:26 pm by yrinfish »
I need help with Random (x86 Happy), pm me if you want to help :D
LOOK IN MY SPOILER, MY SIG IS UPDATED (almost) EVERY DAY
Spoiler For MiniTale:
No mini competition please, teamwork is better :D
I suggest we do not use "MiniCraft" as the name:
Notch has asked us to not do that.
It will get changed to "MiniTale"
@Hayleia, you don't _have to_ organize :P
THIS POST IS IN MY SIG TOO

Details
Language: Axe
Platform: TI 83+

Things we'll need to do/make
Draw the sprites saintrunner is working on this
A save file format.
A level generator.
A Tilemapper.
Some sort of AI.
Crafting system.

People on it (AFAIK)
annoyingcalc
saintrunner
Hayleia (your avatar is really cool btw)
epic7
Blue Raven
yrinfish

Useful info
For those who are going to work on this
General Program Structure
Spoiler For Spoiler:

:.Sprite Data
:.Other Data
:
:.Main menu
:.Option Start Game->init
:.Option How To Play->help
:.Option About->crdt
:
:.BEGIN init
:.Save file is present?
:.yes->strt
:.no->lgen
:.END init
:
:.BEGIN lgen
:.Make appvar appvMCSAVE
:.create 7 levels
:.edit for sky, mines, deep mines, nether
:.END lgen
:
:.BEGIN strt

~~~~ working on this ~~~~

Tiles
Spoiler For Spoiler:
Wheat
Water
Tree
Stone
Stairs
Sapling
Sand
Rock
Ore
Lava
InfiniteFall
Hole
HardRock
Grass
Flower
Farm
Dirt
Cloud
CloudCactus
Cactus

Biomes
Spoiler For Spoiler:
--Sky
Cloud
--Surface
Forest
Meadow
Plains
Cliffs
Mountain
Desert
Ocean
--Underground
Mines
Deep Mines
Nether

Items
Spoiler For Spoiler:
--Tools
Pick
Axe
Hoe
Shovel
--Weapon
Sword
--Utilities
Pow Glove
Workbench
Furnace
Lantern
Anvil
Oven
Chest
--Resources
Apple
Bread
Cloth
Slime
Wood
Seeds
Wheat
Acorn
Cactus
Flower
Cloud
Dirt
Stone
Sand
Coal
Iron Ore
Gold Ore
Gem
Glass
Iron
Gold
Spoiler For More...:
Spoiler For About me:

No, I didn't lie!!


quotes:HERE

And even more:


[07:53:14] <+Frey> Y'know, when people descend from my heavens , they're never Chuck Norris
[07:53:55] <+Frey> I usually get another catgirl or an angel pops down for a visit
[07:54:06] <+Frey> Some angels are really nice
[07:54:33] <+Frey> Some are into the whole "scare the locals" bit
[07:54:54] <+Frey> And some just absent minded
[07:55:38] * +david_ has nothing to do
[07:55:40] <+Frey> It's the absentminded ones you gotta look out for, because the'yre the ones that forget they're 40ft tall
[07:56:04] <+Frey> They're also the ones that forget about social taboos, like nudity
[07:56:28] <+Frey> Have you ever tryed to explain to an angel...anything?
[07:56:45] <+Frey> They don't listenunless they want to
[07:57:16] <+Frey> And don't learn unless they think they don't know
[07:57:51] <+Frey> Except for the nice ones, they're nice
[07:59:27] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> lol
[07:59:32] <+Frey> And they're all so pretty!
[07:59:38] <+Frey> It's ridiculous
[07:59:44] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> I hate PUSHES, THEY HAUNT ME
[08:00:06] <+Frey> Want an angel to come over and exorcise them?
[08:00:36] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> or, more specific: the fact that sometimes, happy outputs: pushes != pops
[08:00:47] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> I know why
[08:01:01] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> and I can solve it by adding a lookahead
[08:01:10] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> But I don't want to
[08:01:24] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> but continue your story
[08:01:35] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> lol
[08:03:13] <+Frey> Ok, so one day, I was walking to the school bus, and, long story short, got my life saved by an angel
[08:03:27] <+Frey> This one was a scary one
[08:03:42] <+Frey> Same height/age as me
[08:04:14] <+Frey> OMG She was the scariest person I had ever met
[08:04:28] <+Frey> She made the entire football team pee their pants
[08:04:43] <+Frey> I was so glad she was on my side
[08:05:04] <+Frey> Right up until she tryed to enter the bathroom with me
[08:05:37] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> lool
[08:05:45] <+Frey> After a muchness of arguing, I finally got through to her
[08:05:56] <+Patrick-D> is this a rap song?
[08:06:06] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<aeTIos> idk
[08:06:09] <+Frey> She tap danced outside my stall the entire time, though
[08:10:04] <+Frey> She was in all my classes too, which was weird, especially as they were all advanced courses and she joined in the middle of the semester
[08:10:28] <+Frey> Even the teachers were scared of her
[08:10:45] <+Frey> Note that she was gorgeous
[08:12:09] <+Frey> So, this angel and I, we managed to stop the apocalypse
[08:12:48] <+Frey> And she kissed me before going back,
[08:13:08] <+Frey> To heaven, but as it turns out that kiss sealed her to Earth
[08:13:47] <+Frey> We still don't know what to do


lol:

[11:30:53] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> 2 guests are looking at my topic
[11:30:53] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> I wonder who they are
[11:30:53] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> where they live
[11:30:53] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> how old they are
[11:30:55] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> What kind of jokes they make
[11:30:57] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> but it surprises me that theyre looking at my topic
[11:31:01] * DThought smacks yrinfish for stalking
[11:31:08] <yrinfish> lool
[11:31:14] <DThought> Whoa, why'd it include all the newlines?
[11:31:23] * calc84maniac  smacks DThought for talking
[11:31:28] * calc84maniac  runs

Crisps:

<OmnomIRC> (O)* Keoni29  Eating crisps
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  asks keoni some
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> 7$ shipping please
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  gives
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> It will arrive in 3 days
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> Thank you
<OmnomIRC> (O)* Keoni29  Wonders if he wants some dip
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> chili please
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Qwerty.55> Adobe, last time I updated one of your products, the changes broke half of the documents using it.
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> :(
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Qwerty.55> Why the hell would I update anything else from you?
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  kicks adobe
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  runs
<OmnomIRC> (O)* Qwerty.55  runs with him
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> I have guacamole :S
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> I have guacamole :S
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  likes that too
<OmnomIRC> (O)* Keoni29  yay
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> http://www.tinyurl.com/guacamole.jar
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> :3
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> 404
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> no foooooooooooooooooooooooouwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahnd
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> <3 no shit
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> You cant download jars of guacamole
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> I have an idea!
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> loool
<yrinfish> that came too late ;)
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Qwerty.55> Actually, I just realized why Adobe's update breaks everything.
<yrinfish> tell me
<yrinfish> again too late
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Buy yourself some :3
<yrinfish> that was to keoni
<yrinfish> lOLoL
<yrinfish> :D
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Qwerty.55> It's a security update and if you can't run anything, you obviously can't get infected by anything in those documents.
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Then I pay one dip
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Do you have paypal?
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> :S
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> nope
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> lol
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> hm, I could get some crisps
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> it is too late to do that here
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> main europe
* jkag ([email protected]) has joined #omnimaga
* Netbot45 gives voice to jkag
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> MUSIC YAY
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Well the shops are closed here too
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> 21:45
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> where?
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Gwt+0
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> The netherlands
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> huh? loool
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> hallo keoni, hoe gaat het? continue in english please
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> :S
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> really stupid dutch sentence^

Languages:
1308401677 <yrinfish> I'm dutch
1308401679 <yrinfish> lol
1308401687 <p2> Oh.
1308401702 <yrinfish> So I need to learn german
1308401705 <yrinfish> and french
1308401712 <yrinfish> and English
1308401717 <yrinfish> and Dutch
1308401724 <yrinfish> and Greek
1308401728 <yrinfish> and Latin
1308401739 <p2> I must learn french and English.
1308401739 <yrinfish> and Spanish
1308401749 <Spyro543> Y=sin(x+yrinfish)*>9000
NOTE: these are all the languages I have chosen to learn!
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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #211 on: June 17, 2011, 12:34:09 pm »
why not // ? is that already something?
* yrinfish checks the new wiki

ah, it is...

what about ./? the dot is a 'point' and .* for multiplication

I like ./ because it's fixed-point division.

And // is probably bad because of the way Quigibo made Axe.

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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #212 on: June 17, 2011, 12:35:24 pm »
Since it's fixed point division, how do you think /. looks? I think that operator is actually sort of logical with the decimal point. And although I don't know if you would want to change the fixed point multiplication operator and break compatibility with old programs, I think *. would make a great complement.


Ninja response to Scout: I think the division/multiplication operator first would be a good idea so the parser doesn't see the decimal first and have to worry about what follows being either a comment or a math operator.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2011, 12:36:53 pm by Runer112 »

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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #213 on: June 17, 2011, 12:37:09 pm »
decimal dot doesn't mean a comment if it's not the first token on the line.

and @scout, yes, that was intentional.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2011, 12:38:08 pm by yrinfish »
I need help with Random (x86 Happy), pm me if you want to help :D
LOOK IN MY SPOILER, MY SIG IS UPDATED (almost) EVERY DAY
Spoiler For MiniTale:
No mini competition please, teamwork is better :D
I suggest we do not use "MiniCraft" as the name:
Notch has asked us to not do that.
It will get changed to "MiniTale"
@Hayleia, you don't _have to_ organize :P
THIS POST IS IN MY SIG TOO

Details
Language: Axe
Platform: TI 83+

Things we'll need to do/make
Draw the sprites saintrunner is working on this
A save file format.
A level generator.
A Tilemapper.
Some sort of AI.
Crafting system.

People on it (AFAIK)
annoyingcalc
saintrunner
Hayleia (your avatar is really cool btw)
epic7
Blue Raven
yrinfish

Useful info
For those who are going to work on this
General Program Structure
Spoiler For Spoiler:

:.Sprite Data
:.Other Data
:
:.Main menu
:.Option Start Game->init
:.Option How To Play->help
:.Option About->crdt
:
:.BEGIN init
:.Save file is present?
:.yes->strt
:.no->lgen
:.END init
:
:.BEGIN lgen
:.Make appvar appvMCSAVE
:.create 7 levels
:.edit for sky, mines, deep mines, nether
:.END lgen
:
:.BEGIN strt

~~~~ working on this ~~~~

Tiles
Spoiler For Spoiler:
Wheat
Water
Tree
Stone
Stairs
Sapling
Sand
Rock
Ore
Lava
InfiniteFall
Hole
HardRock
Grass
Flower
Farm
Dirt
Cloud
CloudCactus
Cactus

Biomes
Spoiler For Spoiler:
--Sky
Cloud
--Surface
Forest
Meadow
Plains
Cliffs
Mountain
Desert
Ocean
--Underground
Mines
Deep Mines
Nether

Items
Spoiler For Spoiler:
--Tools
Pick
Axe
Hoe
Shovel
--Weapon
Sword
--Utilities
Pow Glove
Workbench
Furnace
Lantern
Anvil
Oven
Chest
--Resources
Apple
Bread
Cloth
Slime
Wood
Seeds
Wheat
Acorn
Cactus
Flower
Cloud
Dirt
Stone
Sand
Coal
Iron Ore
Gold Ore
Gem
Glass
Iron
Gold
Spoiler For More...:
Spoiler For About me:

No, I didn't lie!!


quotes:HERE

And even more:


[07:53:14] <+Frey> Y'know, when people descend from my heavens , they're never Chuck Norris
[07:53:55] <+Frey> I usually get another catgirl or an angel pops down for a visit
[07:54:06] <+Frey> Some angels are really nice
[07:54:33] <+Frey> Some are into the whole "scare the locals" bit
[07:54:54] <+Frey> And some just absent minded
[07:55:38] * +david_ has nothing to do
[07:55:40] <+Frey> It's the absentminded ones you gotta look out for, because the'yre the ones that forget they're 40ft tall
[07:56:04] <+Frey> They're also the ones that forget about social taboos, like nudity
[07:56:28] <+Frey> Have you ever tryed to explain to an angel...anything?
[07:56:45] <+Frey> They don't listenunless they want to
[07:57:16] <+Frey> And don't learn unless they think they don't know
[07:57:51] <+Frey> Except for the nice ones, they're nice
[07:59:27] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> lol
[07:59:32] <+Frey> And they're all so pretty!
[07:59:38] <+Frey> It's ridiculous
[07:59:44] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> I hate PUSHES, THEY HAUNT ME
[08:00:06] <+Frey> Want an angel to come over and exorcise them?
[08:00:36] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> or, more specific: the fact that sometimes, happy outputs: pushes != pops
[08:00:47] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> I know why
[08:01:01] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> and I can solve it by adding a lookahead
[08:01:10] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> But I don't want to
[08:01:24] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> but continue your story
[08:01:35] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> lol
[08:03:13] <+Frey> Ok, so one day, I was walking to the school bus, and, long story short, got my life saved by an angel
[08:03:27] <+Frey> This one was a scary one
[08:03:42] <+Frey> Same height/age as me
[08:04:14] <+Frey> OMG She was the scariest person I had ever met
[08:04:28] <+Frey> She made the entire football team pee their pants
[08:04:43] <+Frey> I was so glad she was on my side
[08:05:04] <+Frey> Right up until she tryed to enter the bathroom with me
[08:05:37] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> lool
[08:05:45] <+Frey> After a muchness of arguing, I finally got through to her
[08:05:56] <+Patrick-D> is this a rap song?
[08:06:06] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<aeTIos> idk
[08:06:09] <+Frey> She tap danced outside my stall the entire time, though
[08:10:04] <+Frey> She was in all my classes too, which was weird, especially as they were all advanced courses and she joined in the middle of the semester
[08:10:28] <+Frey> Even the teachers were scared of her
[08:10:45] <+Frey> Note that she was gorgeous
[08:12:09] <+Frey> So, this angel and I, we managed to stop the apocalypse
[08:12:48] <+Frey> And she kissed me before going back,
[08:13:08] <+Frey> To heaven, but as it turns out that kiss sealed her to Earth
[08:13:47] <+Frey> We still don't know what to do


lol:

[11:30:53] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> 2 guests are looking at my topic
[11:30:53] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> I wonder who they are
[11:30:53] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> where they live
[11:30:53] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> how old they are
[11:30:55] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> What kind of jokes they make
[11:30:57] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> but it surprises me that theyre looking at my topic
[11:31:01] * DThought smacks yrinfish for stalking
[11:31:08] <yrinfish> lool
[11:31:14] <DThought> Whoa, why'd it include all the newlines?
[11:31:23] * calc84maniac  smacks DThought for talking
[11:31:28] * calc84maniac  runs

Crisps:

<OmnomIRC> (O)* Keoni29  Eating crisps
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  asks keoni some
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> 7$ shipping please
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  gives
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> It will arrive in 3 days
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> Thank you
<OmnomIRC> (O)* Keoni29  Wonders if he wants some dip
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> chili please
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Qwerty.55> Adobe, last time I updated one of your products, the changes broke half of the documents using it.
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> :(
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Qwerty.55> Why the hell would I update anything else from you?
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  kicks adobe
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  runs
<OmnomIRC> (O)* Qwerty.55  runs with him
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> I have guacamole :S
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> I have guacamole :S
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  likes that too
<OmnomIRC> (O)* Keoni29  yay
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> http://www.tinyurl.com/guacamole.jar
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> :3
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> 404
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> no foooooooooooooooooooooooouwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahnd
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> <3 no shit
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> You cant download jars of guacamole
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> I have an idea!
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> loool
<yrinfish> that came too late ;)
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Qwerty.55> Actually, I just realized why Adobe's update breaks everything.
<yrinfish> tell me
<yrinfish> again too late
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Buy yourself some :3
<yrinfish> that was to keoni
<yrinfish> lOLoL
<yrinfish> :D
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Qwerty.55> It's a security update and if you can't run anything, you obviously can't get infected by anything in those documents.
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Then I pay one dip
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Do you have paypal?
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> :S
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> nope
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> lol
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> hm, I could get some crisps
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> it is too late to do that here
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> main europe
* jkag ([email protected]) has joined #omnimaga
* Netbot45 gives voice to jkag
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> MUSIC YAY
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Well the shops are closed here too
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> 21:45
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> where?
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Gwt+0
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> The netherlands
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> huh? loool
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> hallo keoni, hoe gaat het? continue in english please
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> :S
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> really stupid dutch sentence^

Languages:
1308401677 <yrinfish> I'm dutch
1308401679 <yrinfish> lol
1308401687 <p2> Oh.
1308401702 <yrinfish> So I need to learn german
1308401705 <yrinfish> and french
1308401712 <yrinfish> and English
1308401717 <yrinfish> and Dutch
1308401724 <yrinfish> and Greek
1308401728 <yrinfish> and Latin
1308401739 <p2> I must learn french and English.
1308401739 <yrinfish> and Spanish
1308401749 <Spyro543> Y=sin(x+yrinfish)*>9000
NOTE: these are all the languages I have chosen to learn!
Spoiler For Info:

Spoiler For Projects:
Happy    [.---------] A C-like programming language for the z80 in js. REWRITING THE WHOLE THING, GOOD IDEAS NEEDED
DionJump [======----] Paused, but there is an update
Corona   [----------] Not enough time... If you need inspiration?
LGETC    [======----] getchar() LUT, useful and not too big. Waits for keyboard input and returns ASCII char

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stringLength Get the length in pixels of a small-font string.
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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #214 on: June 17, 2011, 12:38:26 pm »
Oh I forgot comments :P

@yrinfish: Well that seems right too.

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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #215 on: June 17, 2011, 12:39:27 pm »
decimal dot doesn't mean a comment if it's not the first token on the line.

Actually the comment indicator works anywhere in a line. I don't think Quigibo intended for this originally, but I think having the side affect of inline comments is actually pretty nice.

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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #216 on: June 17, 2011, 12:42:40 pm »
Edit: It does? oh

Ok, scout thinks:

A./B Good idea
A./B Argh, comments
A./B Oh, that's true


lol

But I think that, while it is not really a good way when you want this:

Code: [Select]
:If H
: 35->A
:Else
: 10->A
:End
:./B->C

But, we'll see that later
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Details
Language: Axe
Platform: TI 83+

Things we'll need to do/make
Draw the sprites saintrunner is working on this
A save file format.
A level generator.
A Tilemapper.
Some sort of AI.
Crafting system.

People on it (AFAIK)
annoyingcalc
saintrunner
Hayleia (your avatar is really cool btw)
epic7
Blue Raven
yrinfish

Useful info
For those who are going to work on this
General Program Structure
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:.Sprite Data
:.Other Data
:
:.Main menu
:.Option Start Game->init
:.Option How To Play->help
:.Option About->crdt
:
:.BEGIN init
:.Save file is present?
:.yes->strt
:.no->lgen
:.END init
:
:.BEGIN lgen
:.Make appvar appvMCSAVE
:.create 7 levels
:.edit for sky, mines, deep mines, nether
:.END lgen
:
:.BEGIN strt

~~~~ working on this ~~~~

Tiles
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Wheat
Water
Tree
Stone
Stairs
Sapling
Sand
Rock
Ore
Lava
InfiniteFall
Hole
HardRock
Grass
Flower
Farm
Dirt
Cloud
CloudCactus
Cactus

Biomes
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--Sky
Cloud
--Surface
Forest
Meadow
Plains
Cliffs
Mountain
Desert
Ocean
--Underground
Mines
Deep Mines
Nether

Items
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Pick
Axe
Hoe
Shovel
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Sword
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Workbench
Furnace
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Oven
Chest
--Resources
Apple
Bread
Cloth
Slime
Wood
Seeds
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Acorn
Cactus
Flower
Cloud
Dirt
Stone
Sand
Coal
Iron Ore
Gold Ore
Gem
Glass
Iron
Gold
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And even more:


[07:53:14] <+Frey> Y'know, when people descend from my heavens , they're never Chuck Norris
[07:53:55] <+Frey> I usually get another catgirl or an angel pops down for a visit
[07:54:06] <+Frey> Some angels are really nice
[07:54:33] <+Frey> Some are into the whole "scare the locals" bit
[07:54:54] <+Frey> And some just absent minded
[07:55:38] * +david_ has nothing to do
[07:55:40] <+Frey> It's the absentminded ones you gotta look out for, because the'yre the ones that forget they're 40ft tall
[07:56:04] <+Frey> They're also the ones that forget about social taboos, like nudity
[07:56:28] <+Frey> Have you ever tryed to explain to an angel...anything?
[07:56:45] <+Frey> They don't listenunless they want to
[07:57:16] <+Frey> And don't learn unless they think they don't know
[07:57:51] <+Frey> Except for the nice ones, they're nice
[07:59:27] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> lol
[07:59:32] <+Frey> And they're all so pretty!
[07:59:38] <+Frey> It's ridiculous
[07:59:44] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> I hate PUSHES, THEY HAUNT ME
[08:00:06] <+Frey> Want an angel to come over and exorcise them?
[08:00:36] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> or, more specific: the fact that sometimes, happy outputs: pushes != pops
[08:00:47] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> I know why
[08:01:01] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> and I can solve it by adding a lookahead
[08:01:10] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> But I don't want to
[08:01:24] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> but continue your story
[08:01:35] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> lol
[08:03:13] <+Frey> Ok, so one day, I was walking to the school bus, and, long story short, got my life saved by an angel
[08:03:27] <+Frey> This one was a scary one
[08:03:42] <+Frey> Same height/age as me
[08:04:14] <+Frey> OMG She was the scariest person I had ever met
[08:04:28] <+Frey> She made the entire football team pee their pants
[08:04:43] <+Frey> I was so glad she was on my side
[08:05:04] <+Frey> Right up until she tryed to enter the bathroom with me
[08:05:37] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> lool
[08:05:45] <+Frey> After a muchness of arguing, I finally got through to her
[08:05:56] <+Patrick-D> is this a rap song?
[08:06:06] <+OmnomIRC> (O)<aeTIos> idk
[08:06:09] <+Frey> She tap danced outside my stall the entire time, though
[08:10:04] <+Frey> She was in all my classes too, which was weird, especially as they were all advanced courses and she joined in the middle of the semester
[08:10:28] <+Frey> Even the teachers were scared of her
[08:10:45] <+Frey> Note that she was gorgeous
[08:12:09] <+Frey> So, this angel and I, we managed to stop the apocalypse
[08:12:48] <+Frey> And she kissed me before going back,
[08:13:08] <+Frey> To heaven, but as it turns out that kiss sealed her to Earth
[08:13:47] <+Frey> We still don't know what to do


lol:

[11:30:53] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> 2 guests are looking at my topic
[11:30:53] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> I wonder who they are
[11:30:53] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> where they live
[11:30:53] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> how old they are
[11:30:55] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> What kind of jokes they make
[11:30:57] <DThought> <OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> but it surprises me that theyre looking at my topic
[11:31:01] * DThought smacks yrinfish for stalking
[11:31:08] <yrinfish> lool
[11:31:14] <DThought> Whoa, why'd it include all the newlines?
[11:31:23] * calc84maniac  smacks DThought for talking
[11:31:28] * calc84maniac  runs

Crisps:

<OmnomIRC> (O)* Keoni29  Eating crisps
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  asks keoni some
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> 7$ shipping please
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  gives
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> It will arrive in 3 days
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> Thank you
<OmnomIRC> (O)* Keoni29  Wonders if he wants some dip
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> chili please
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Qwerty.55> Adobe, last time I updated one of your products, the changes broke half of the documents using it.
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> :(
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Qwerty.55> Why the hell would I update anything else from you?
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  kicks adobe
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  runs
<OmnomIRC> (O)* Qwerty.55  runs with him
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> I have guacamole :S
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> I have guacamole :S
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish  likes that too
<OmnomIRC> (O)* Keoni29  yay
<OmnomIRC> (O)* yrinfish
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> http://www.tinyurl.com/guacamole.jar
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> :3
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> 404
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> no foooooooooooooooooooooooouwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahnd
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> <3 no shit
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> You cant download jars of guacamole
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> I have an idea!
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> loool
<yrinfish> that came too late ;)
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Qwerty.55> Actually, I just realized why Adobe's update breaks everything.
<yrinfish> tell me
<yrinfish> again too late
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Buy yourself some :3
<yrinfish> that was to keoni
<yrinfish> lOLoL
<yrinfish> :D
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Qwerty.55> It's a security update and if you can't run anything, you obviously can't get infected by anything in those documents.
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Then I pay one dip
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Do you have paypal?
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> :S
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> nope
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> lol
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> hm, I could get some crisps
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> it is too late to do that here
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> main europe
* jkag ([email protected]) has joined #omnimaga
* Netbot45 gives voice to jkag
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> MUSIC YAY
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Well the shops are closed here too
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> 21:45
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> where?
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> Gwt+0
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> The netherlands
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> huh? loool
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> hallo keoni, hoe gaat het? continue in english please
<OmnomIRC> (O)<Keoni29> :S
<OmnomIRC> (O)<yrinfish> really stupid dutch sentence^

Languages:
1308401677 <yrinfish> I'm dutch
1308401679 <yrinfish> lol
1308401687 <p2> Oh.
1308401702 <yrinfish> So I need to learn german
1308401705 <yrinfish> and french
1308401712 <yrinfish> and English
1308401717 <yrinfish> and Dutch
1308401724 <yrinfish> and Greek
1308401728 <yrinfish> and Latin
1308401739 <p2> I must learn french and English.
1308401739 <yrinfish> and Spanish
1308401749 <Spyro543> Y=sin(x+yrinfish)*>9000
NOTE: these are all the languages I have chosen to learn!
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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #217 on: June 17, 2011, 05:14:30 pm »
eh.... as much as I like the dot, I would really like to avoid it so it doesn't look weird next to another new feature I'm adding.
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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #218 on: June 27, 2011, 03:31:09 pm »
Found some optimizations for p_IntSetup:

Code: (Original code: 45 bytes, a lot of cycles) [Select]
p_IntSetup:
.db __IntEnd-p_IntSetup-1
di
ld de,$8B01
ld a,d
ld i,a
ld a,l
ld hl,$8B00
ld b,e
ld c,l
ld (hl),$8A
ldir

and %00000110
out (4),a
ld a,%00001000
out (3),a
ld a,%00001010
out (3),a

ld de,$8A8A
ld bc,__IntDataEnd-__IntData
ld hl,$0000
ldir

in a,(6)
ld ($8A8A+__IntDataSMC-__IntData+1),a
__IntEnd:
.db rp_Ans,9
       
   
Code: (Optimized code: 42 bytes, a lot minus 5 cycles) [Select]
p_IntSetup:
.db __IntEnd-p_IntSetup-1
di
ld de,$8B01
ld a,d
ld i,a
ld a,l
ld hl,$8B00
ld b,e
ld c,l
ld (hl),$8A
ldir

and %00000110
out (4),a
ld a,%00001000
out (3),a
ld a,(hl)
out (3),a

ld d,a
ld e,a
ld c,__IntDataEnd-__IntData
ld hl,$0000
ldir

in a,(6)
ld ($8A8A+__IntDataSMC-__IntData+1),a
__IntEnd:
.db rp_Ans,9
       

Also don't forget the two interrupt optimizations that have been suggested earlier! :) (removing di and removing port 6 SMC in programs)





Also, a bug report. After talking with thepenguin77 on IRC, I think I have confirmed my old belief that MemKit's Next() command has a bug regarding reaching the end of the VAT:

Next(): 2 bytes and a few cycles saved. Also, isn't the end-of-VAT check in the wrong place? I could be wrong because my VAT experience isn't too great, but because this routine checks for the end of the VAT at the start, wouldn't this command advance the VAT pointer to the end of the VAT and not recognize it as the end until the next Next()? This would cause problems with programs reading garbage VAT data for the last "entry." If I'm right about this (which may not be the case), the third block of code I posted should hopefully recognize the end of the VAT as soon as it hits it and never advance the VAT pointer to point to the end.

Code: (Original code: 26 bytes, 152/66 cycles) [Select]

 ld    hl,(axv_X1t)
 ld    de,($982E)
 or    a
 sbc   hl,de
 ret   z
 add   hl,de
 ld    de,-6
 add   hl,de
 ld    e,(hl)
 inc   e
 xor   a
 ld    d,a
 sbc   hl,de
 ld    (axv_X1t),hl
 ret
   
   
Code: (Optimized code: 24 bytes, 144/66 cycles) [Select]

 ld    hl,(axv_X1t)
 ld    de,($982E)
 or    a
 sbc   hl,de
 ret   z
 add   hl,de
 ld    de,-6
 add   hl,de
 ld    a,(hl)
 cpl
 ld    e,a
 add   hl,de
 ld    (axv_X1t),hl
 ret
   
   
Code: (Optimized (and fixed?) code: 24 bytes, 144/113 cycles) [Select]

 ld    hl,(axv_X1t)
 ld    de,-6
 add   hl,de
 ld    a,(hl)
 cpl
 ld    e,a
 add   hl,de
 ld    de,($982E)
 or    a
 sbc   hl,de
 ret   z
 add   hl,de
 ld    (axv_X1t),hl
 ret
   

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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #219 on: June 30, 2011, 01:06:47 am »
A mix of a feature request and an optimization:

How about compound assignment operators (e.g. +=) for most Axe operations? They would offer savings on every operation that doesn't use a 2-byte variable at a constant address as the main operand. They could also offer even larger savings on basic operations like addition, subtraction, and bitwise logic.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2011, 01:15:07 am by Runer112 »

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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #220 on: June 30, 2011, 03:01:03 am »
Those might get peephole optimized eventually, so I don't want to spend time on that feature right now.  I realize now that a lot of optimizations I've already done could have been done via peepholes instead of special casing and it would have been a whole lot easier to code and more generalizable.  I'm currently only doing the most conservative peephole ops right now and its already reducing all code by about 1-2% on average.  I'm thinking I can get this to over 5% eventually, especially in code that is not already hyper optimized.

Also, I don't want to remove the port 6 stuff in because I think it potentially allows more advanced paging Axioms to use the regular interrupts.  Plus it would be annoying to change.
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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #221 on: July 01, 2011, 12:39:04 pm »
A mix of a feature request and an optimization:

How about compound assignment operators (e.g. +=) for most Axe operations? They would offer savings on every operation that doesn't use a 2-byte variable at a constant address as the main operand. They could also offer even larger savings on basic operations like addition, subtraction, and bitwise logic.

I was just gonna post that in the other thread. Yes.

And I'm not good enough at ASM to give you any big suggestions, but here's another little request:
·EFF00
to LD L,0 and
·E00FF
to LD H,0. (The · dots are the 16-bit AND operator.)

EDIT: And
+EFF00
to LD H,255 and
+E00FF
to LD L,255.
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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #222 on: July 01, 2011, 06:49:17 pm »
That's been implemented since 0.5.2. :P

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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #223 on: July 03, 2011, 09:08:13 pm »
Time to update <_<




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Re: Assembly Programmers - Help Axe Optimize!
« Reply #224 on: July 12, 2011, 01:05:00 am »
Wow, I just did something I didn't think was even possible. I found a good use for a forward djnz. *.*

The following is the part of p_Disp4Lvl that initializes the mask:

Code: (17 bytes, ~62 cycles) [Select]
ld a,%11011011
or a
ld hl,flags+asm_flag2
inc (hl)
jr z,__Disp4Lvlskip
rra
ld b,(hl)
inc b
jr z,__Disp4Lvlskip
rra
ld (hl),-2
   
Code: (16 bytes, ~60 cycles) [Select]
ld a,%11011011
or a
ld hl,flags+asm_flag2
inc (hl)
jr z,__Disp4Lvlskip
rra
ld b,(hl)
djnz __Disp4Lvlskip
rra
ld (hl),-2
« Last Edit: July 12, 2011, 01:07:14 am by Runer112 »