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Re: Project Paradise - Ubercalculator
« Reply #120 on: March 06, 2011, 11:03:33 am »
I would prefer to use C to get the IDE going if we wrote it on its own. I just know more about that language.

EDIT: Nevermind I just found out you could use C in C++ programs
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Re: Project Paradise - Ubercalculator
« Reply #121 on: March 06, 2011, 05:07:59 pm »
Hey, for funding, what about kickstarter? : http://www.kickstarter.com/

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Re: Project Paradise - Ubercalculator
« Reply #122 on: March 06, 2011, 05:27:37 pm »
C++ and lower arms don't get along that well.

so, how exactly does kickstarter work? its "about" page is a little vague with "no risk, no money changes hands" It's hard to tell what it actually does :P

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Re: Project Paradise - Ubercalculator
« Reply #123 on: March 06, 2011, 05:31:44 pm »
Essentially, it's a way to raise money.  You set a goal (Which you at least have to meat, or no money changes hands.), and try and make money.  Usually, it's stuff like "Donate $25 and you get..." Type thing.  The more you donate, the better it is.  For example, $25 might be a cheaper calc or something.  Maybe a discount on the standard.  Or pre-orders or something.  Just ideas like that that can make money this way.

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Re: Project Paradise - Ubercalculator
« Reply #124 on: March 06, 2011, 06:01:30 pm »
so, you get a bonus since you were an early supporter through kickstart, and if enough money isn't raised you get your cash back? interesting. seems much less risky than I first thought!

Also, a suggestion that would make this project a LOT cheaper, faster and easier, but would be difficult to pull off (but soooo worth it) find a case that fits your needs and is already heavily produced.
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Re: Project Paradise - Ubercalculator
« Reply #125 on: March 06, 2011, 06:19:58 pm »
so, you get a bonus since you were an early supporter through kickstart, and if enough money isn't raised you get your cash back? interesting. seems much less risky than I first thought!

Also, a suggestion that would make this project a LOT cheaper, faster and easier, but would be difficult to pull off (but soooo worth it) find a case that fits your needs and is already heavily produced.
I disagree with that.  Yes, it's cheeper, but a calc is distinguished by it's case and looks.

Anyway, it's not really a bonus per-se, but whoever the kickstarter project owner is can give you rewards.  For example, you could make only contributions that give $150 or more actually get the calc. ($200 gets your name put into the bootcode so it can't be erased)
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Re: Project Paradise - Ubercalculator
« Reply #126 on: March 06, 2011, 06:30:01 pm »
yeah, personally, I couldn't even pay for a calc above $200 dollars, but around 180 is totally worth it.  Yeah, netbeans itself is small, but it requires a lot of RAM and speed... but it could be sensible just to have a syntax highlighting thing and raw compilers work together :3

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Re: Project Paradise - Ubercalculator
« Reply #127 on: March 07, 2011, 03:41:11 pm »
I would say it might be best to write our own IDE (or modify an open source one like scite). That way we could also include Axe and such.

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Re: Project Paradise - Ubercalculator
« Reply #128 on: March 07, 2011, 07:08:01 pm »
Another suggestion about the GUI is that the calc should come with its own. Of course, if it's a Linux distro that is very compatible between computers and handhelds, then the GUI theme could be used on the computer afterward, but it would be nice if your calc came with a new one, to make it stand out at first.
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Re: Project Paradise - Ubercalculator
« Reply #129 on: March 07, 2011, 10:15:55 pm »
I am thinking we should have at least a partially different GUI for the developers and standard. standard needs more of a math/school focused. You would want the developers to have a more easy to create and power programs interface though. I do not think it should be too hard for us to create a good GUI for each version. If we had to choose which one to do first I would suggest the standard because it is the one schools might order. And schools are major business for all calculators.
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Re: Project Paradise - Ubercalculator
« Reply #130 on: March 07, 2011, 11:07:10 pm »
Both calcs also need to look a bit different, like the TI-Nspire CAS vs TI-Nspire.
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Re: Project Paradise - Ubercalculator
« Reply #131 on: March 08, 2011, 03:17:33 am »
Scintilla and SciTE seem like very good candidates. They would seem very good in writing software that needs syntax highlighting. Also, you can run gedit on the calculator if you want:

I think with all the plugins for gedit, you could get the same functionality as Notepad++.

About the GUI, yeah we should change it as I suppose it does look pretty boring, though it does have a serious look to it (all the demos I've been showing have been GNOME with GTK):


@DJ: I'll make sure the cases will be different and they'll be easy to identify, both by the color of the casing and markings on them.

@graphmastur: I'll take a look at Kickstarter. My first impression of the site however is that it seems like it's for art or film projects. They also seem to have some strict guidelines on what projects they accept: http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq#WhoCanFundTheiProjOnKick. But, I guess it wouldn't hurt though to try submitting this project. Also, the problem is I need pre-orders for a batch of at least 100 units to match the pricing you guys want. For developers edition, I would need 180*100 = $18,000. For standard, 150*100 = $15,000. I could probably do a mix in the first batch of standard and developers, so I would need $15,000 minimum, but more realistically maybe around $16,500. This is a lot of money and this needs to be dealt with seriously. So this is my proposal plan for Kickstarter:

Target for fundraising is $15,000 in 75 days, just in time before summer. During this time, I'll just be finalizing the case and motherboard designs. The rewards I can probably offer:

* $1 - One buck can help buy a dozen capacitors for prototyping. As a thank you, your name will be place on our site as a contributor.
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* $40 - This helps with prototyping costs. As a thank you we will give you a T-Shirt and your name will be placed on our site as a contributor.
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* $310 - Need one calculator for school, but want another to hack around with? Save $20 right now and get both the Standard and Professional.
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* $5400 - You're cooler than the coolest teacher and you want to pre-order a classroom set of Professional Editions, because you're the coolest of the cool.

Nah, just kidding about the last two. ;D On a serious note, again since a lot of money needs to be raised to start manufacturing, preferably, I'd like to get some funds to help build a few more prototypes , just to be safe and make sure the manufacturing process is top notch by the time your pre-orders get made. So how does this sound? Would anyone here submit a pledge? Or perhaps know someone who  might be interested in doing this? If people are willing to make pledges, I'll submit in my proposal and we'll see if it gets accepted.
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Re: Project Paradise - Ubercalculator
« Reply #132 on: March 08, 2011, 03:25:55 am »
Just don't make one of the calc casing pink, please. O.O

J/k, as for the GUI it should look serious. I just thought it would be cool to have one that is unique to the calc maybe, for the sake of originality.

As for fund raising, I am afraid this might not be as possible for me as it was before, though. I'll certainly pre-order the calc, but 2 weeks ago, after some repeated events, I made the decision to not contribute any funds anymore to internet-related stuff (including Omnimaga hosting, which will now be distributed between the rest of the staff).
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« Reply #133 on: March 08, 2011, 04:30:52 am »
I will actually fund this project, probably $200 one :) Once I get paid that is :P which is prolly at the end of March


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Re: Project Paradise - Ubercalculator
« Reply #134 on: March 08, 2011, 07:32:12 am »
I would love if you set the deadline around the end of the year, actually.  I want one, but the way I raise money and stuff, and because of my inability to spend money online directly at a brick and mortar store, I have to be cautious with it.  Also, note this: (Found in Kickstarter's site)
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